Cremation incident in restaurant – Over Reacted?

[Capt Caveman]

A NOTE TO ALL THE SUPERSTUPIDTARDS WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT: IT'S NOT ALL HARMLESS ASH.

A LOT OF IT IS CRUSHED UP BONE THAT DOES NOT BURN. SOMETIMES AS MUCH AS 25% OR MORE DOES NOT BURN. SOME OF IT IS THE METAL IN FILLINGS THAT DOES MELT AND BURN, THEN IT BECOMES TOXIC POWDERED MERCURY. METAL IMPLANTS ARE ALSO INCINERATED AND MOSTLY TURNED TO ASH. THIS IS A TOXIC BIOHAZARD WASTE PRODUCT. THERE IS NOTHING SAFE OR HARMLESS ABOUT IT.

Thanks for playing internet stupid though.

And how is it going to effect you unless you open the urn and snort it?

 

[Perknose]

That was a douche move on you and your wife's part, you just had to fuck things up for those folks.

If I were the manager I would've told you uptight assholes to leave.

Bingo. What the hell is wrong with you, OP?

No way 'round it, you're an intrusive, pansy-ass busybody, and a real ash-hole.

 

[NetWareHead]

These things are prone to tipping over, and the lids frequently do not screw on, too. If this thing fell over, it would be considered a BIOHAZARD and HAZARDOUS WASTE. The dust would then drift all over the restaurant, and it would have to be evacuated and closed down. The manager was 100% right in asking them to leave, and the grieving morons should have never brought it in without permission in the first place. None of you post tards has ever run a restaurant, OBVIOUSLY.

Biohazard? Hazardous waste? lol do you even know what cremated ash is? It is rocks. Minerals. Calcium phosphates and carbonates left over from the cremation process. There is not a single infectious substance in that urn that you would find outdoors by playing with rocks and dirt. You would have a greater health risk putting your hands on the dining room table or eating with the restaurant's eating utensils then if a container of (god forbid!) ash tipped over.

You pointing out that some people here wouldn't graduate past a busboy level and onwards to a restaurant manager. What can be said about your intelligence if you think ash is so dangerous? Your opinion is flat out retarded and stupid

 

[NetWareHead]

A NOTE TO ALL THE SUPERSTUPIDTARDS WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT: IT'S NOT ALL HARMLESS ASH.

A LOT OF IT IS CRUSHED UP BONE THAT DOES NOT BURN. SOMETIMES AS MUCH AS 25% OR MORE DOES NOT BURN. SOME OF IT IS THE METAL IN FILLINGS THAT DOES MELT AND BURN, THEN IT BECOMES TOXIC POWDERED MERCURY. METAL IMPLANTS ARE ALSO INCINERATED AND MOSTLY TURNED TO ASH. THIS IS A TOXIC BIOHAZARD WASTE PRODUCT. THERE IS NOTHING SAFE OR HARMLESS ABOUT IT.

Thanks for playing internet stupid though.

Quoted for stupidity. Take a walk to your nearest garden supply store. And go find something on the shelves called bone meal and blood meal. There is nothing bio-hazardous about burned bones.

 

[Perknose]

Biohazard? Hazardous waste? lol do you even know what cremated ash is? It is rocks. Minerals. Calcium phosphates and carbonates left over from the cremation process. There is not a single infectious substance in that urn that you couldn't find outdoors by playing with rocks and dirt. You would have a greater health risk putting your hands on the dining room table or eating with the restaurant's eating utensils then if a container of (god forbid!) ash tipped over.

You pointing out that some people here wouldn't graduate past a busboy level and onwards to a restaurant manager. What can be said about your intelligence if you think ash is so dangerous? Your opinion is flat out retarded and stupid

Came back here to point out the towering ignorance and complete idiocy of Slick Snake's assertion that ash is anything but what NewWareHead said it is.

This thread contains some of the worst real life FAIL imaginable.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Quoted for stupidity. Take a walk to your nearest garden supply store. And go find something on the shelves called bone meal and blood meal. There is nothing bio-hazardous about burned bones.

That's because they have to process it prior to sale per EPA guidelines, which removes all the melted, burnt, airborne mercury. Cremated human ashes aren't the same case, as they are for personal use only.

 

[SlickSnake]

Cremation is the process of reducing dead bodies to basic chemical compounds in the form of gases and bone fragments. This is accomplished through burning—high temperatures, vaporization and oxidation. Cremation may serve as a funeral or postfuneral rite that is an alternative to the interment of an intact body in a casket. Cremated remains, which are not a health risk, may be buried or immured in memorial sites or cemeteries, or they may be legally retained by relatives or dispersed in a variety of ways and locations.

A cremator is an industrial furnace capable of generating temperatures of 870–980 °C (1,598–1,796 °F) to ensure disintegration of the corpse.

I don't think many coodies will be able to live through and hour or so at that temperature. Do you?

They cremated remains ARE considered a biohazard. There are biohazard decals all over the cremation area in a funeral home. And having them in a food establishment is just plain stupid, and many of the posters here seem to have fallen out of the same stupid tree if they think it's cool to cart mom around in an urn in a restaurant AT ALL. And they had to walk all over the restaurant just to even be seated.

My guess is mom was in bag or something, and that's how they snuck her in. Because no hostess with any common sense would have seated them if they saw them lugging a giant urn around in the first place. So that was the stupid hostesses fault for seating them if they visibly had one.

WTF MORONS WITH CREMATION URNS IN RESTAURANTS. D:

 

[Bignate603]

A NOTE TO ALL THE SUPERSTUPIDTARDS WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT: IT'S NOT ALL HARMLESS ASH.

A LOT OF IT IS CRUSHED UP BONE THAT DOES NOT BURN. SOMETIMES AS MUCH AS 25% OR MORE DOES NOT BURN. SOME OF IT IS THE METAL IN FILLINGS THAT DOES MELT AND BURN, THEN IT BECOMES TOXIC POWDERED MERCURY. METAL IMPLANTS ARE ALSO INCINERATED AND MOSTLY TURNED TO ASH. THIS IS A TOXIC BIOHAZARD WASTE PRODUCT. THERE IS NOTHING SAFE OR HARMLESS ABOUT IT.

Thanks for playing internet stupid though.

Sure...

 

[Texashiker]

My wife and I found the idea of a cremated body in the next booth both ghoulish and a violation of the health code.

How is it a violation of the health code? The fire killed any bacteria/viruses in the remains, and then the remains are sealed.

I think you and your wife were out of line. those people where not harming you in any manner. For some reason you decided to force your opinion on the other people.

 

[moshquerade]

We went last night to Applebee’s restaurant. In the booth next to us there was a group of 4 people. They were talking about the urn they brought into the restaurant with them sitting on the table, which was the remains of their mother. My wife and I got quiet and started listening carefully after we overheard that. Seems their mother just died and they were taking her, in the urn to some of her favorite places before the internment. My wife and I found the idea of a cremated body in the next booth both ghoulish and a violation of the health code. We called the manager over and asked him to enquire about it. He did, and they were very forthright and said exactly what we overheard that they were taking their cremated mother who recently died out to some of her favorite places. The manager told them that they could not bring cremated ashes into an eating establishment as it violates health code rules. The group left, with the urn. We met another couple for dinner and debated most the night about this issue. Does anyone else have an issue with eating next to a dead body in an urn or do people regularly take their cremated ashes with them to restaurants?

Honestly, I wouldn't have cared. You were not eating "next to a dead body".

I think it was fine for them to be there under the circumstances. They are showing their love for their mother. In this case, leave them alone.

 

[PottedMeat]

Sure...

hahah i think that actually covers everything

 

[SlickSnake]

Came back here to point out the towering ignorance and complete idiocy of Slick Snake's assertion that ash is anything but what NewWareHead said it is.

This thread contains some of the worst real life FAIL imaginable.

LOL. Go work at a funeral home for a while in the cremation room, then tell me how safe it is if you manage to survive for more than one day.

 

[SKORPI0]

Biohazard? Hazardous waste? lol do you even know what cremated ash is? It is rocks. Minerals. Calcium phosphates and carbonates left over from the cremation process. There is not a single infectious substance in that urn that you couldn't find outdoors by playing with rocks and dirt.

This, OP over reacted. :hmm:

Cremation wi-ki

Contrary to popular belief, the cremated remains are not ashes in the usual sense. After the incineration is completed, the dry bone fragments are swept out of the retort and pulverized by a machine called a cremulator to process them into "ashes" or "cremated remains",[8] although pulverization may also be performed by hand. This leaves the bone with a fine sand like texture and color, able to be scattered without need for mixing with any foreign matter,[9] though the size of the grain varies depending on the cremulator used.0

Strange enough, a close family friend who died June last year chose this option in his will. There was a wake/memorial then family waited about 6 hours to get his ashes. Never saw the urn myself but I heard that it was about 5 lbs. of ashes.

What is cremation?

The cremated remains -- essentially a mass of course ash along with bone fragments of various sizes at this point -- will now be processed in a machine that will pulverize the cremated remains to a uniform size. Multiple passes through the processing machine are possible; with each pass through this machine, the cremated remains become finer and softer in their consistency.

 

[Bignate603]

LOL. Go work at a funeral home for a while in the cremation room, then tell me how safe it is if you manage to survive for more than one day.

As opposed to the people that work there for decades with no health problems whatsoever?

 

[Lifted]

As opposed to the people that work there for decades with no health problems whatsoever?

LOL. I think he's trolling at this point. Probably in an effort cover up his stupidity.

 

[tfinch2]

 

[Capt Caveman]

They cremated remains ARE considered a biohazard. There are biohazard decals all over the cremation area in a funeral home. And having them in a food establishment is just plain stupid, and many of the posters here seem to have fallen out of the same stupid tree if they think it's cool to cart mom around in an urn in a restaurant AT ALL. And they had to walk all over the restaurant just to even be seated.

My guess is mom was in bag or something, and that's how they snuck her in. Because no hostess with any common sense would have seated them if they saw them lugging a giant urn around in the first place. So that was the stupid hostesses fault for seating them if they visibly had one.

WTF MORONS WITH CREMATION URNS IN RESTAURANTS. D:

Giant urn? Do you know the size of the woman? If she wasn't busting over 200, then the ash and urn would not have been large at all.

Again, how would an urn with ash affect anybody in the restaurant besides the OP and you?

 

[NetWareHead]

That's because they have to process it prior to sale per EPA guidelines, which removes all the melted, burnt, airborne mercury. Cremated human ashes aren't the same case, as they are for personal use only.

My point is that cremated ashes are safer and less apt to contain "biohazards" than bone meal. Bone meal is not cremated in an oven. They are just dried coarsely ground bones from a slaughter house.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'd have bought mum a brandy myself. It's a shame you complained as that's what the family will remember for ever now rather than the goodbye they wanted. It was just a standard meal out to you but it was a bit more than that to them.

I'm not seeing anything to worry about health wise at all, but then again I've eaten my sandwiches next to dead bodies many times and I'm still alive.

 

[moshquerade]

dbl post

 

[Rage187]

That was a douche move on you and your wife's part, you just had to fuck things up for those folks.

If I were the manager I would've told you uptight assholes to leave.

This, you were an ass to those people.

 

[Whisper]

I wouldn't have minded, nor would I have thought it to be "ghoulish." But if it actually is a health code violation, then I definitely don't fault the restaurant for asking them to leave.

Would I have mentioned it to a manager, though? No.

 

[moshquerade]

They cremated remains ARE considered a biohazard. There are biohazard decals all over the cremation area in a funeral home. And having them in a food establishment is just plain stupid, and many of the posters here seem to have fallen out of the same stupid tree if they think it's cool to cart mom around in an urn in a restaurant AT ALL. And they had to walk all over the restaurant just to even be seated.

My guess is mom was in bag or something, and that's how they snuck her in. Because no hostess with any common sense would have seated them if they saw them lugging a giant urn around in the first place. So that was the stupid hostesses fault for seating them if they visibly had one.

WTF MORONS WITH CREMATION URNS IN RESTAURANTS. D:

They were in a closed urn. 404 biohazard not found. The chemicals coming off your clothes from the cigarette you inhaled before you came into the restaurant to eat is more of a biohazard to the patrons around you than any intact closed urn full of human ash.

 

[HAL9000]

That was a douche move on you and your wife's part, you just had to fuck things up for those folks.

If I were the manager I would've told you uptight assholes to leave.

This.

It's an urn with ash in it, who gives a shit, if they start sprinkling bits of ash on your dinner, then complain. All else myob.

 

[Bignate603]

What if we feed him in an Applebee's next to a family with an urn full of cremated remains?