credit card Paypal vs Non-credit card Paypal

samgoody69

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What is the difference? Looks like most of the buyer wants non-credit card paypal. What is the big deal?


anyone?
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
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He doesn't want to upgrade his account to the business account (and thus pay PayPal fees on every transaction).

Pay with non CC fund, it's not hard.

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LordJezo

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Pay with non CC fund, it's not hard.

The get rocked by the paypal hackers/schemes/legal problems.

no thank you.

<-- unverified for life.
 

samgoody69

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sorry for the misunderstanding, I mean the seller wants the non-cc paypal fund. Does that means paypal won't charge fee on non-cc paypal payment?

Thanks
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: samgoody69
sorry for the misunderstanding, I mean the seller wants the non-cc paypal fund. Does that means paypal won't charge fee on non-cc paypal payment?

Thanks

PayPal charges fees for CC paypal funds (to cover the CC fees).

They pass those fees on to the recipient of the funds.

Non-cc funds are free to transfer.

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RossMAN

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Originally posted by: samgoody69
sorry for the misunderstanding, I mean the seller wants the non-cc paypal fund. Does that means paypal won't charge fee on non-cc paypal payment?

Thanks

As Viper GTS already stated it has to do with fees.

Personal Paypal - no fees to accept paypal payments but CANNOT accept credit card paypal.

Premier and Business Paypal - fees are deducted from ALL incoming Paypal payments even if it's non-credit card Paypal.
 

Nocturnal

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I did not realize that even though people pay with non-cc I get charged the fee. I finally realized it and started accepting both types of payments when dealing with paypal.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I did not realize that even though people pay with non-cc I get charged the fee. I finally realized it and started accepting both types of payments when dealing with paypal.

Yep that's what sucks.

If Premier and Business Paypal customers were deducted fees on only incoming cc payments then I would upgrade.

But if someone sends me non-cc pp and they take out fees?

No $#!# way.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I did not realize that even though people pay with non-cc I get charged the fee. I finally realized it and started accepting both types of payments when dealing with paypal.

If you downgrade to a personal account you will be unable to accept CC funds, but will be able to get non CC funds free of fees.

Viper GTS
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I did not realize that even though people pay with non-cc I get charged the fee. I finally realized it and started accepting both types of payments when dealing with paypal.

If you downgrade to a personal account you will be unable to accept CC funds, but will be able to get non CC funds free of fees.

Viper GTS

No sh!t?

Why didn't I know this? :Q

What are the disadvantages to downgrading to a Personal account besides being unable to accept CC funds?

Maybe I should do this. I stopped taking PayPal all together because I hated the fees. It took too big a chunk out of my profit, especially when added together with eBay fees.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I did not realize that even though people pay with non-cc I get charged the fee. I finally realized it and started accepting both types of payments when dealing with paypal.

If you downgrade to a personal account you will be unable to accept CC funds, but will be able to get non CC funds free of fees.

Viper GTS

No sh!t?

Why didn't I know this? :Q

What are the disadvantages to downgrading to a Personal account besides being unable to accept CC funds?

Maybe I should do this. I stopped taking PayPal all together because I hated the fees. It took too big a chunk out of my profit, especially when added together with eBay fees.

None.

That's why I remain a PERSONAL account holder, 0 fees.

My wife on the other hand who does a lot of eBaying has a Premier account, so if someone HAS to send me cc Paypal they send it to her.
 

dman

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So, anyone know, is there any other comparable (or cheaper) priced solutions to paypal that a small business can do that supports credit card payments?

I think in that light, paypal is probably competitive but I haven't done the legwork.

 

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I did not realize that even though people pay with non-cc I get charged the fee. I finally realized it and started accepting both types of payments when dealing with paypal.

yup, i found this out the hard way too. pissed me off so bad i canceled my account. now i only have an unverified account. if someone HAS to pay CC, i can take Visa/MC/AMEX anyway, i'm paying another vendor for that service why should i pay paypal? :(
 

Nocturnal

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A lot of people have two types of accounts. One for accepting CCs and one for accepting non-CC funds. But it would mean you would need two check accounts because you can't have the same account hooked up to two different paypal accounts.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: dman
So, anyone know, is there any other comparable (or cheaper) priced solutions to paypal that a small business can do that supports credit card payments?

I think in that light, paypal is probably competitive but I haven't done the legwork.

You could sign up for an account with Paysystems which offers a lot more than Paypal does.

However there is a $50 setup fee, fees are deducted from each transaction BUT there is no monthly fee or minimums and you are paid every Friday directly into your bank account via ACH.
 

scorp00

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I did not realize that even though people pay with non-cc I get charged the fee. I finally realized it and started accepting both types of payments when dealing with paypal.

If you downgrade to a personal account you will be unable to accept CC funds, but will be able to get non CC funds free of fees.

Viper GTS

How do you downgrade to a personal account? I can't seem to find it on the webpage
 

dman

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: dman
So, anyone know, is there any other comparable (or cheaper) priced solutions to paypal that a small business can do that supports credit card payments?

I think in that light, paypal is probably competitive but I haven't done the legwork.

You could sign up for an account with Paysystems which offers a lot more than Paypal does.

However there is a $50 setup fee, fees are deducted from each transaction BUT there is no monthly fee or minimums and you are paid every Friday directly into your bank account via ACH.

>Fees starting at 3.95%* discount rate and $0.35* per transaction.

Actually, the 3.95% has a $1 charge per transaction. The $.35 goes along with a 5.5%. Not so hot for me, but probably good for a small business needing CC payment options.
 

Ns1

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2.2% + 30 cents is NOT a big deal considering how convenient it is. I once had a seller bitch and whine over the fee over a 15 dollar transaction. That's less than a dollar. That's LESS than going to the post office, getting a MO, then sending it.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: scorp00
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I did not realize that even though people pay with non-cc I get charged the fee. I finally realized it and started accepting both types of payments when dealing with paypal.

If you downgrade to a personal account you will be unable to accept CC funds, but will be able to get non CC funds free of fees.

Viper GTS

How do you downgrade to a personal account? I can't seem to find it on the webpage

I went to

Paypal.com
Clicked HELP
Searched for "downgrade"

Found this.
 

scorp00

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: scorp00
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I did not realize that even though people pay with non-cc I get charged the fee. I finally realized it and started accepting both types of payments when dealing with paypal.

If you downgrade to a personal account you will be unable to accept CC funds, but will be able to get non CC funds free of fees.

Viper GTS

How do you downgrade to a personal account? I can't seem to find it on the webpage

I went to

Paypal.com
Clicked HELP
Searched for "downgrade"

Found this.

Thanks! I searched for "downgrading" and didn't find anything. :(
 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
2.2% + 30 cents is NOT a big deal considering how convenient it is.

That only applies to people who are getting the merchant rate, otherwise it's 2.9% + .30. For you non math wizards, that's 5.9% on EVERY $10 transaction (and the effective percentage goes higher the further below $10 you go). Makes no sense for what I'm selling as they'd be getting most of it in the end.