I reformatted yesterday and when I went to creative's site that had this new, auto update feature on their website for drivers. I thought that was cool so I tried it out. The install would not complete because I needed to have drivers installed already before it could be updated. So, I figured I would download them and do it manually. Well, after downloading the drivers and trying to install them the install failed as well because I don't have a previous set of drivers installed. I can't find a set of drivers on the site that will let me install a base set, then upgrade to the newer releases. Does Creative expect their users to pay for a driver disk now? Can anyone else confirm this for me? Any info would help. Thanks.