Crashing whenever GeForce 4 is used

[pyrokk]

Hi all-

A while back, I upgraded my mobo and processor. The board I got was a Intel D865GBF. (I was using a MSI w/ a KT3 ultra-ARU before). The video card I had in that system was a GeForce 4 TI. Well, after I upgraded the system, it would make any 3d accelerated application crash after a few minutes. Needless to say, this really sucked. I tossed a GeForce 3 in there and got it to work. I assumed my video card had gone bad and didn't think much of it. That was a while ago, recently, I put a GeForce 4 MX (pci) in and found that the crash has returned. By swapping out components, I?ve basically eliminated everything as possible causes. I've tried different memory, RMA'd my mobo, removed all PCIs, reformatted.. etc..

Are GeForce 4s just incompatible with the 865 chipset or something? Has anyone experienced anything similar?

Thanks!

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, GF4 MX is actually a GF2 I believe, so that would eliminate it being a GF4 problem.

Make sure you have all of the latest mobo and vid drivers/DX9 and the latest BIOS first.

I would think if NV GF4's were incompatible with the 865 chipset, someone would have said so. If they are, I have never heard about it.

Are you using a P4 with HT? If so, is it properly recognized by the OS?

 

[pyrokk]

Yeah, it's a hyper threaded processor. I've tried it disabled and enabled though. (Also tried single and dual channel memory modes)

I'm not sure if I updated my BIOS or not, but I will give that a try. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Thanks!

 

[mastertech01]

I use the 875 chipset with a GF4 TI4800 which is an 8X card and it works great. Maybe you just need to move up to an 8X version?

 

[Big Lar]

Edit: I missed the reformat part on the first read.

Are you sure the new board drivers are installed, as well as Usb drivers?

 

[pyrokk]

BIOS update didn't do much. 8X/4X shouldn't matter. I'm not even using an AGP card right now and it crashes.

I've installed all of the up to date intel drivers for this board as well, so I wouldn't think that would be it.

 

[willfreund]

try the card on another computer.I cant understand why its doing it,unless some old drivers werent cleaned out. And what ever you do, dont listen to the people that say get a ati, thats not fixing anything but making you get another card

 

[pyrokk]

Well, i've tried both video cards in other machines. I've tried them on a KM266-A chipset mobo and a KT3 mobo where they work fine. I've also actually tried a Radeon 9000 I think which seems to work in this PC.

 

[NewBlackDak]

Did you reformat/re-install, or atleast clean up and let windows re-install all drivers? Try driver cleaner to remove all the garbage ones lying around. If that doesn't work, I'd suggest re-installing windows.

 

[pyrokk]

No, when I reformatted earlier, I compeltely reformatted and downloaded fresh copies of the newest drivers from the manufacturers' sites.

 

[Fern]

Sounds like you got a bad install of drivers. If you haven't already, uninstall the vid card drivers and try again.

 

[pyrokk]

I've tried reinstalling the drivers a couple of times. (Both before and after reformatting)

Infact, now that I think about it, the only thing I have not replaced is the processor, but i've never really heard or seen a P4 go bad before. Er, well, that is I suppose that is unless if the two video cards have different problems.

The first one, the AGP GF4 *might* be bad, though it does work decently in on a KT3. The GF4MX, works as well it other machines, but I could understand issues with a PCI video card not working in a system which supports AGP. Speaking of which, it doesn't actually disable the onboard video on the mobo, so you have to boot up windows running the monitor off the onboard until you can disable it in the hardware manager and reboot (despite the fact that you select primary display as PCI in bios..)

I'm beginning to think my computer case must be cursed or something, only think I haven't replaced

 

[VirtualLarry]

Wait, so the GF4 MX that you added, is a PCI card? But the original GF4 Ti was an AGP? This is a board with onboard video? (865G, duh, nevermind.)
Hmm. I wonder if this could be due to some issues with the onboard video and the Intel graphics drivers, I know that there have been issues with them in the past.
What happens if you disable the onboard graphics under Windows, using Device Manager? ("Disable", not "Uninstall")

 

[pyrokk]

Yeah, the PCI GF4MX will not display the windows GUI unless it's the only display adaptor enabled in the device manager. To work around this, I have to disable the intel one, which is kinda ghetto as there is no option to disable the onboard video in BIOS. It's only disabled at a hardware level when you put an AGP card in. It feels like I have the Windows XP Home edition of motherboards. (Damn you Intel!)

I updated the BIOS on this board when I initially started having the problem, but it looks like a new version had come out pretty recently. I put that one on there and it appears to have resolved the problem with the GF4MX. I'll grab the GF4Ti out of my work PC tomorrow and hope that that one'll work.

 

[LTC8K6]

There should be some sort of setting in the BIOS regarding which display card has priority, AGP or PCI. Something like INIT DISPLAY FIRST, which I have on this computer with the choices AGP or PCI.

 

[pyrokk]

Yes, there is a setting for which display to initilize first, but even if you set it to PCI, once the windows GUI comes up, it'll switch to which ever one it wants to. In this case, the onboard one. A BIOS option/jumper to disable onboard video is desperatly needed on this board.