Crash Data Suggest Driver Error in Toyota Accidents

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sdifox

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You must have been deprived as a child to have not seen a dealership with non-standard mats. I mean that is like totally the in thing to do.

nope. Every single loaner I have seen have factory mats.

PS how is that deprived as a child?
 
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7window

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I've always said all along it was operator error. Even the chp incident is operator error.
 

Pacfanweb

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True, though I would not normally recommend someone to shut off their engine as it cuts power steering and possibly impairs hydraulic braking.

I'd always recommend anyone turn the engine off rather than keep accelerating. That's a no-brainer. First, I'd tell them to put it in neutral...if that didn't work, cut it off.
Plus, you'll still have brakes and steering with the engine off....just not power. I'd much rather worry about that than about the car running away.

Honestly, if you KNEW your accelerator was truly stuck, you CAN use the brakes to haul the car down to a stop. The catch is, you have to do it the first time you try braking...you can't sit there and slow it down some, then let it speed up, then back down.....do that and you'll get brake fade.

But on the Lexus that ran away with the cop driving it, the brakes would have stopped the car, had he gone ahead and tried to do so to begin with. Of course, that's easy to say in hindsight, but anyone else it happens to should remember that.
 

Miramonti

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NHTSA: Toyota Planted The "Driver Error" Story In The WSJ

However, the NHTSA, the body responsible for examining the Toyota pedal problems in the US, has firmly rebutted claims the story came from the safety organisation.

"That story was planted by Toyota," an NHTSA spokeswoman in Washington told just-auto. "Toyota is the source - yes we know that for definite.

"It is [the] Toyota PR machine. We knew they were going to put it out."
 
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