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CoverUps.com - The Good News We Don't Always Get

Riprorin

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Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1, 2003...

* The first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty.

* Over 60 000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.

* Nearly all of Iraq's 400 courts are functioning.

* The Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.

* On Monday, October 6, power generation hit 4,518 megawatts-exceeding the pre-war average.

* All 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.

* By October 1, Coalition forces had rehabbed over 1,500 schools - 500 more than their target.

* Teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.

* All 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.

* Doctors' salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.

* Pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.

* The Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccination doses to Iraq's children.

* A Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq's 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals. They now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.

* We have restored over three-quarters of pre-war telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.

* There are 4,900 full-service connections. We expect 50,000 by January first.

* The wheels of commerce are turning. >From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.

* 95 percent of all pre-war bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.

* Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1... Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.

* The central bank is fully independent.

* Iraq has one of the world's most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.

* Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.

* Satellite dishes are legal.

* Foreign journalists aren't on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for "minders" and other government spies.

* There is NO Ministry of Information.

* There are more than 170 newspapers.

* You can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.

* Foreign journalists and everyone else are free to come and go.

* A nation that had not one single element--legislative, judicial or executive--of a representative government, does.

* In Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils. Baghdad's first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when the city

* Today in Iraq, chambers of commerce, businesses, schools and professional organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.

* 25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in Iraq's history, run the day-to-day business of government.

* The Iraqi government regularly participates in international events. Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen international meetings, including those of the UN General Assembly, the Arab League, the World Bank and IMF and, today, the Islamic Conference Summit. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs today announced that it is reopening over 30 Iraqi embassies around the world.

* Shia religious festivals that were all but banned, aren't.

For the first time in 35 years, in Karbala, thousands of Shiites celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.

* The Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects, large and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.

* Uday and Queasy are dead - and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to his zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force cooperation, torturing Iraq's soccer players for losing games...murdering critics.

* Children aren't imprisoned or murdered when their parents disagree with the government.

* Political opponents aren't imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed, or forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam.

* Millions of long suffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.

* Saudis will hold municipal elections.

* Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.

* Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.

* The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian -- a Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace.

Comment: I would also like to add that in addition to his other duties, George Bush also happens to be Commander in Chief of the US Military that has made the above possible, either by direct participation or influence. People tend to forget this at times... some conveniently. These brave young men and women of our Armed Forces, doing a great job, are making it possible to accomplish these happenings in the name of freedom and human decency.

From: Don Harribine, USN (Ret)

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Rainsford

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Always good to get the entire picture of a situation. Judging Iraq based only on our failues is just as silly as judging it only by our victories.
 

Stunt

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right...that is the worst site ever to get iraq news from...
if you go to "great cover-ups"
you can see how they believe that the loch ness monster exists...

so if you believe Rips post...you might as well believe in the loch ness monster.

NOW...im not going to say it is all wrong...there's probably some truth in there :p
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Stunt
right...that is the worst site ever to get iraq news from...
if you go to "great cover-ups"
you can see how they believe that the loch ness monster exists...

so if you believe Rips post...you might as well believe in the loch ness monster.

NOW...im not going to say it is all wrong...there's probably some truth in there :p

I'm sure there is some truth to those figures, we ARE doing good things in Iraq. But looking at this post and thinking "well, things look fine to me" would be stupid.

Also, I'm always amused when people buy into that "end to major combat" thing. Sure, you can declare anything you want, but how many people have died in combat since then? Even if you agree with the war, I don't get how people don't question the whole "Mission Accomplished" thing.
 

Engineer

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Rip,

Again it's good and nice and all, but occupying that country still sucks. Since you seem to be all up in the air about all the good stuff in Iraq, how about we just pack up and leave now? If not, why? You seem to point to everything rosey over there.
 

Riprorin

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Tommy Franks estimated 3 - 5 years. It's only been 1 1/2 years. We'll leave when the job is done.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Tommy Franks estimated 3 - 5 years. It's only been 1 1/2 years. We'll leave when the job is done.

I think that was the point...all the good stuff aside, at best the job is half done, at worst we're still going to be debating it in the 2008 election, or even longer.
 
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Thanks for the info on the good things happening, Rip.

I think the level-headed people know that there are both good things and bad going on in Iraq. Like life we have to accept both and do what we can with either. Fortunately, we are making progress, even if it is slow, and Iraq will eventually be better for it. If we could we'd hire Barbara Eden to snap her fingers, or Elizabeth Montgemry to wiggle her nose, and fix it all immediately to satisfy those who believe eveything should be perfect in the world right now. But those with some patience understand that Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither will Baghdad be rebuilt in a day.
 

Stunt

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I agree that things are getting better...you cant get much worse than a war zone and having napalm dropped on ppl.
Nice to see the US is spending lots of money on infrasture...the US sure can afford it...

I like to see conservative governments invest in infrastructure...too bad no american will benifit from it.

and also...i'd like to thank you for pointing out that the loch ness monster exists...*coverups revealed*....sounds like a fox tv special...
 
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^^ WTF?? The only moron who referred to the Loch Ness Monster was YOU :roll:

And No Sh!t no American will benefit from infrastructure in Iraq :roll:

On the other hand, NO MINISTRY OF INFORMATION. D'u guys remember the minister of Information who claimed Iraq was winning the war even when Abrams were rolling through the streets?

 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
^^ WTF?? The only moron who referred to the Loch Ness Monster was YOU :roll:

And No Sh!t no American will benefit from infrastructure in Iraq :roll:

On the other hand, NO MINISTRY OF INFORMATION. D'u guys remember the minister of Information who claimed Iraq was winning the war even when Abrams were rolling through the streets?

It was from his link...
it's my new news source now...

loch ness monster lives...go look at the pics...it's a huge cover up...it's the "good news we don't always get"
:)
 

joshw10

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

On the other hand, NO MINISTRY OF INFORMATION. D'u guys remember the minister of Information who claimed Iraq was winning the war even when Abrams were rolling through the streets?

Damn that sounds familiar....who else does that
 

CocoMunkee

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Thanks for the info on the good things happening, Rip.

I think the level-headed people know that there are both good things and bad going on in Iraq. Like life we have to accept both and do what we can with either. Fortunately, we are making progress, even if it is slow, and Iraq will eventually be better for it. If we could we'd hire Barbara Eden to snap her fingers, or Elizabeth Montgemry to wiggle her nose, and fix it all immediately to satisfy those who believe eveything should be perfect in the world right now. But those with some patience understand that Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither will Baghdad be rebuilt in a day.

Exactly. We live in a fast food society where everything is now. It will take time. The US needs to establish itself in the mid-east if there is any chance for democracy to take root. At the very least, a huge American presence must be felt in that region for the sake of stability.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: ntdz
thanks for the info and link, makes me feel better about Iraq.

As though you were feeling blue about Iraq? Please. For the OP, :cookie: You can eat it yourself or ship it in a box to Iraq. I don't really care.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: ntdz
thanks for the info and link, makes me feel better about Iraq.

As though you were feeling blue about Iraq? Please. For the OP, :cookie: You can eat it yourself or ship it in a box to Iraq. I don't really care.

lol
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Riprorin

* Doctors' salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.
Great. Im glad to see the rich are getting richer in iraq too.

* The Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccination doses to Iraq's children.
Why did this have to wait util after we invaded. We could have easily done this without invading.

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* We have restored over three-quarters of pre-war telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.
so television is still 25% worse and and water 1/3 worth than before the war...

* There are 4,900 full-service connections. We expect 50,000 by January first.
Whats a full service connection?

* The wheels of commerce are turning. >From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.

* 95 percent of all pre-war bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.
and of course this legitimazes the deaths of tes of thousands...

* Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1... Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.

* The central bank is fully independent.

* Iraq has one of the world's most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.

* Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.

* Satellite dishes are legal.
again does this legitimaize the deaths of 10s of thousands?

* Foreign journalists aren't on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for "minders" and other government spies.
Of course Al jazeara is still banned

* There is NO Ministry of Information.
Maybe you should read some of your other threads before you post nonsense.

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There are more than 170 newspapers.

* You can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.

* Foreign journalists and everyone else are free to come and go.

* A nation that had not one single element--legislative, judicial or executive--of a representative government, does.
Thats interesring, because I could've sworn they had a fake legislature back then like they have a fake legislature now.

The rest of this is just a much crap as the first half, i'm not going to bother. None of this comes close to legitimizing what we did.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: ntdz
thanks for the info and link, makes me feel better about Iraq.

As though you were feeling blue about Iraq? Please. For the OP, :cookie: You can eat it yourself or ship it in a box to Iraq. I don't really care.

Maybe you should save it for yourself,,,, and wash it down with that intellectual hind tit that you are sucking . :p

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Tommy Franks estimated 3 - 5 years. It's only been 1 1/2 years. We'll leave when the job is done.

We were supposed to leave after the elections!
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Tommy Franks estimated 3 - 5 years. It's only been 1 1/2 years. We'll leave when the job is done.

We were supposed to leave after the elections!

WTF? Can't you hear? ;)

Originally posted by: Riprorin
We'll leave when the job is done.

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Tommy Franks estimated 3 - 5 years. It's only been 1 1/2 years. We'll leave when the job is done.

We were supposed to leave after the elections!

WTF? Can't you hear? ;)

Originally posted by: Riprorin
We'll leave when the job is done.

:( Isn't it amazing the type of sh!t they will lie to us about??

When is Limbaugh going to put his ass in a pennitentiary for being a drugaddict?
 

NeoV

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nice site in the link Rip....where do you get these?

While there are some positive steps taking place over there, I have never, once, seen Rip admit that things were mishandled and poorly planned - for that matter, neither has this administration...

but hey, they have satellite dishes over there now....

actually, two of the biggest street businesses over there are selling DVD copies, porn, and satellite dishes...sounds like a college campus town
 

randym431

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The question is, should we have gone there in the first place. The whole thing was because of 9/11. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. There were a lot of positive things about Vietnam also, but the question then and now, at what cost? If you wanted a new car, but didn?t want to spend $20,000 on it, so you decide to build your own. Some years down the road, you do-it-yourself car is still not finished, and you have $60,000 into it. At what point do you realize you made a huge mistake? Or do you keep dumping time/money to justify your original decision. And your pig head ness not to admit you goofed.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: randym431
The question is, should we have gone there in the first place.

:roll:

No... That is your question, not the question.
 

Stunt

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I honestly thinks he looks up "iraq success" in google everyday...and throws up any crap site with anything good to say about iraq.

This way he can rest better at night...after realizing that he believes in a cause that is killing thousands of innocent troops and civilians.
Poor rip...whatever you feel you need to say to make yourself think you are moral and righteous.