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IceBergSLiM

Lifer
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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: OhSnap688
Originally posted by: MrLee
How is that not discrimination? I don't have a problem with it, in fact I'd rather have it because it keeps the ration in the clubs at a decent rate. But how do clubs and bars get away with charging guys money to get in but not charging girls? They can't say "no cover for white people, 10 for black people." but they can say "if you have a penis it's 10 bucks, if you have a vjayjay its free"

I would think being that a club\bar is a place of business it would have to let people in at an equal rate or let people drink for the same price.

This is simple, and probably already said many many times. The more girls there are, the more guys will show up and pay. It works great. Plus the girls buy drinks outta the ass.

thats gotta taste horrible.

girls don't buy drinks at all. They are typically at the club broke with only 10 bucks in their pocket because they burned through their pay check on an outfit,some makeup, hair-do and nails. They hustle up on chumps for their drinks. Its not like they drink alot to begin with anyways.
 

Josh

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Clubs are retarded, they'll let hot women in so that there's more eye candy... It's a business plan.

Besides, clubs are for losers.


:laugh: You can't be serious. More hot women...and you are mad? And clubs are for losers...riiiight. To each his own.
 

Mr Pickles

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: OhSnap688
Originally posted by: MrLee
How is that not discrimination? I don't have a problem with it, in fact I'd rather have it because it keeps the ration in the clubs at a decent rate. But how do clubs and bars get away with charging guys money to get in but not charging girls? They can't say "no cover for white people, 10 for black people." but they can say "if you have a penis it's 10 bucks, if you have a vjayjay its free"

I would think being that a club\bar is a place of business it would have to let people in at an equal rate or let people drink for the same price.

This is simple, and probably already said many many times. The more girls there are, the more guys will show up and pay. It works great. Plus the girls buy drinks outta the ass.

thats gotta taste horrible.

good call. :laugh:

I believe the term is called butt chugging. I haven't had the opportunity to endulge, but from what I hear, wine works best.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: manowar821
Clubs are retarded, they'll let hot women in so that there's more eye candy... It's a business plan.

Besides, clubs are for losers.


:laugh: You can't be serious. More hot women...and you are mad? And clubs are for losers...riiiight. To each his own.

yeah duh didn't yopu know? Gamers are the real social elite.
 

Mr Pickles

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Feb 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: manowar821
Clubs are retarded, they'll let hot women in so that there's more eye candy... It's a business plan.

Besides, clubs are for losers.


:laugh: You can't be serious. More hot women...and you are mad? And clubs are for losers...riiiight. To each his own.

yeah duh didn't yopu know? Gamers are the real social elite.

Hell yeah. No time to pay for covers I've got 4 WoW accounts and a fiber bill that I can barely afford!
 

AMCRambler

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Yeah it's pretty lame. If you're a guy that's gotta pay that cover charge to meet girls that sucks but I guess it improves your chances. I've got a girlfriend so it pisses me off when our friends want to go to one of these clubs and I've got to pay the stupid cover charge when I could care less how many girls are there. I see it more as discrimination against those who aren't single. It doesn't matter though because I won't go there with my girl to have a drink because of the stupid cover charge policy. Maybe that doesn't hurt their business that much to matter, but I still don't have to give them any of my money.
The other thing that ticks me off is lame ass dress code policies. I'm a baseball hat guy. I usually wear one when I go out, 1. because I like them and 2. because I don't have to fool around with combing my hair. This one place I've been to a couple times bills themselves as an Irish Pub. That's all well and good except that after 10pm they try and say it's a "night club". They'll have a live performer, usually an alternative band that does covers. The stupid part is that at 10pm the dress code changes to no hats. Why that even friggin matters I don't know. Doesn't matter if I walk in at 8:30 and hang out and have drinks, at 10pm the bouncers come up and tell me I have to take my hat off. Every Irish pub I've ever been to the dress code is pretty damn relaxed, this one is trying to be something it's not. So I don't go there anymore. If I got get dressed up to go out and relax, that's not relaxing for me.
 

Mr Pickles

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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Yeah it's pretty lame. If you're a guy that's gotta pay that cover charge to meet girls that sucks but I guess it improves your chances. I've got a girlfriend so it pisses me off when our friends want to go to one of these clubs and I've got to pay the stupid cover charge when I could care less how many girls are there. I see it more as discrimination against those who aren't single. It doesn't matter though because I won't go there with my girl to have a drink because of the stupid cover charge policy. Maybe that doesn't hurt their business that much to matter, but I still don't have to give them any of my money.
The other thing that ticks me off is lame ass dress code policies. I'm a baseball hat guy. I usually wear one when I go out, 1. because I like them and 2. because I don't have to fool around with combing my hair. This one place I've been to a couple times bills themselves as an Irish Pub. That's all well and good except that after 10pm they try and say it's a "night club". They'll have a live performer, usually an alternative band that does covers. The stupid part is that at 10pm the dress code changes to no hats. Why that even friggin matters I don't know. Doesn't matter if I walk in at 8:30 and hang out and have drinks, at 10pm the bouncers come up and tell me I have to take my hat off. Every Irish pub I've ever been to the dress code is pretty damn relaxed, this one is trying to be something it's not. So I don't go there anymore. If I got get dressed up to go out and relax, that's not relaxing for me.

Word I hear you on the dress code. I live in St. Petersburg. We're pretty relaxed here, we only have 2 clubs with dress codes. So when I go to them its hard to remember about the codes. Outside of St Pete I've actually been told by a bouncer that I couldnt come in with sandals on because I might cut my feet on something while 3 girls in open toed high heels walk on in.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: MrLee
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Yeah it's pretty lame. If you're a guy that's gotta pay that cover charge to meet girls that sucks but I guess it improves your chances. I've got a girlfriend so it pisses me off when our friends want to go to one of these clubs and I've got to pay the stupid cover charge when I could care less how many girls are there. I see it more as discrimination against those who aren't single. It doesn't matter though because I won't go there with my girl to have a drink because of the stupid cover charge policy. Maybe that doesn't hurt their business that much to matter, but I still don't have to give them any of my money.
The other thing that ticks me off is lame ass dress code policies. I'm a baseball hat guy. I usually wear one when I go out, 1. because I like them and 2. because I don't have to fool around with combing my hair. This one place I've been to a couple times bills themselves as an Irish Pub. That's all well and good except that after 10pm they try and say it's a "night club". They'll have a live performer, usually an alternative band that does covers. The stupid part is that at 10pm the dress code changes to no hats. Why that even friggin matters I don't know. Doesn't matter if I walk in at 8:30 and hang out and have drinks, at 10pm the bouncers come up and tell me I have to take my hat off. Every Irish pub I've ever been to the dress code is pretty damn relaxed, this one is trying to be something it's not. So I don't go there anymore. If I got get dressed up to go out and relax, that's not relaxing for me.

Word I hear you on the dress code. I live in St. Petersburg. We're pretty relaxed here, we only have 2 clubs with dress codes. So when I go to them its hard to remember about the codes. Outside of St Pete I've actually been told by a bouncer that I couldnt come in with sandals on because I might cut my feet on something while 3 girls in open toed high heels walk on in.

dresses codes are to keep the losers and dirtbags out. IT works pretty well.
 

aplefka

Lifer
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This is hilarious to read. I got halfway through and OP, you're an idiot. You keep getting owned and then using the same feeble argument that nobody read the OP. Then they own you some more and you use the same argument worded differently.

Thank you for a quick five minute break of funny.
 

OhSnap688

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: OhSnap688
Originally posted by: MrLee
How is that not discrimination? I don't have a problem with it, in fact I'd rather have it because it keeps the ration in the clubs at a decent rate. But how do clubs and bars get away with charging guys money to get in but not charging girls? They can't say "no cover for white people, 10 for black people." but they can say "if you have a penis it's 10 bucks, if you have a vjayjay its free"

I would think being that a club\bar is a place of business it would have to let people in at an equal rate or let people drink for the same price.

This is simple, and probably already said many many times. The more girls there are, the more guys will show up and pay. It works great. Plus the girls buy drinks outta the ass.

thats gotta taste horrible.

girls don't buy drinks at all. They are typically at the club broke with only 10 bucks in their pocket because they burned through their pay check on an outfit,some makeup, hair-do and nails. They hustle up on chumps for their drinks. Its not like they drink alot to begin with anyways.

Ok, not all girls...

 

Injury

Lifer
Jul 19, 2004
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Personally, I don't care because I don't really go to clubs, but I can't support discounts for ladies AND support things like equality in the workplace and such. When I DO end up at a club I'm there to hang out with my group of friends (about half female) and it's really shitty that us guys have to pay to get in just to do that... I'm not there to meet girls, nor will I waste my time talking to the girls other than the ones I came with, yet to no one's surprise, I still have to pay $5 and spend half the time watching out for the pervs that are trying to get their hands on the girls that I'm there with. They already charge $5-6 for a pint of beer so it's not like they aren't making money aside from the cover charge... I think I'm going to start a new trend of not tipping bartenders when I have to pay a cover charge. Make up for it in other ways, ya know?

Fuck "ladies night" and other things like that. Yeah, it's their place and they can do what they want, but it's such a crock of shit it isn't funny. I realize they aren't a charity but it doesn't change the fact that it's a double standard.
 
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: MrLee
How is that not discrimination? I don't have a problem with it, in fact I'd rather have it because it keeps the ration in the clubs at a decent rate. But how do clubs and bars get away with charging guys money to get in but not charging girls? They can't say "no cover for white people, 10 for black people." but they can say "if you have a penis it's 10 bucks, if you have a vjayjay its free"

I would think being that a club\bar is a place of business it would have to let people in at an equal rate or let people drink for the same price.

since when did discrimination become illegal? The club isn't a government actor so you dont have any constitutional protections against it. BTW, even if it was a consitutional issue, laws that discriminate based on race are given a "strict scrutiny" standard and laws that discriminate based on gender are only given "intermediate scrutiny"

PS a NY attorney filed a discriminate lawsuit for this exact same reason. He will lose miserably.

Is your job considered a government actor? Try discrimination there and see what happens. It's pretty damn illegal in that case.


Yes, under title VII which applies to EMPLOYMENT discrimination. Last time I checked, title VII didn't apply to clubs. Also, title VII deals with employer - employee discrimination AFAIK, not employer - consumer discrimination.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: MrLee
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: manowar821
Clubs are retarded, they'll let hot women in so that there's more eye candy... It's a business plan.

Besides, clubs are for losers.


:laugh: You can't be serious. More hot women...and you are mad? And clubs are for losers...riiiight. To each his own.

yeah duh didn't yopu know? Gamers are the real social elite.

Hell yeah. No time to pay for covers I've got 4 WoW accounts and a fiber bill that I can barely afford!

Oh ho ho, pretty funny! :laugh:

If you guys like easy women, and crappy music, then by all means go to the clubs. I'll stick with intellect.. You know, the ones that don't get drunk and retarded, wear miniskirts and dance like strippers, and enjoy "musicians" like chingy or ludacris.

I mean, wow. I'm such a butt-hurt little gamer!

No, wait, I was right. Clubs are retarded.

That was to Iceberg, and the other one.

This is to Josh:
I am serious, I'd rather hang around women who don't need to dance scantily to impress me, I enjoy good music instead of an amateur break-beat with the words "if ya don't give a fuck git da fuck out da club" looped like 100 times (I do live PA on the weekends, so I know shitty music when I hear it). I'm sorry, but it's just so fake and plastic. I'd rather go to a house party or a punk rock show, there at least I know I have a much better chance of meeting someone both physically and mentally stimulating. I posted a separate response to you, because you're not being an ass. I already have a problem with IcebergSlim, over here. :p
 

IceBergSLiM

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I think punk rockers are just as trashy as mini skirt ass shakers soooooo to each their own. At least ass shakers can be presentable if you dress them up but that skank with six hair colors and hoop through her lip still looks trashy in the most formal gown.
 

Agentbolt

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This is one of those "it's the principle of the thing" situations. I don't meet women at clubs generally, as I'm getting too old, so I could care less that they have to pay to get in. You chicks wanted equality, you've got it. Clubs shouldn't be able to get away with blatant discrimination just because most people's reaction is "who cares". That was the same attitude people had about colored-only restaurants and bathrooms and baseball leagues for awhile too, and that eventually got exposed as wrong too.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I think punk rockers are just as trashy as mini skirt ass shakers soooooo to each their own. At least ass shakers can be presentable if you dress them up but that skank with six hair colors and hoop through her lip still looks trashy in the most formal gown.

I guess you'd have to actually be part of the community for a while to see it, but those women who have piercings or whatever aren't skanky, not for the most part anyway. Unless you're talking about fake pop-rock hot-topic types, then yes, you'd be right about that. However, those chicks tend to be from the younger generation, not the people I grew up with.

As for the "ass shakers" looking presentable... I guess that's just personal choice, one that I can be happy to agree with you partially on. Looking MORE presentable? Eh, I don't think so. But that's just my taste.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: MrLee
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: manowar821
Clubs are retarded, they'll let hot women in so that there's more eye candy... It's a business plan.

Besides, clubs are for losers.


:laugh: You can't be serious. More hot women...and you are mad? And clubs are for losers...riiiight. To each his own.

yeah duh didn't yopu know? Gamers are the real social elite.

Hell yeah. No time to pay for covers I've got 4 WoW accounts and a fiber bill that I can barely afford!

Oh ho ho, pretty funny! :laugh:

If you guys like easy women, and crappy music, then by all means go to the clubs. I'll stick with intellect.. You know, the ones that don't get drunk and retarded, wear miniskirts and dance like strippers, and enjoy "musicians" like chingy or ludacris.

I mean, wow. I'm such a butt-hurt little gamer!

No, wait, I was right. Clubs are retarded.

That was to Iceberg, and the other one.

This is to Josh:
I am serious, I'd rather hang around women who don't need to dance scantily to impress me, I enjoy good music instead of an amateur break-beat with the words "if ya don't give a fuck git da fuck out da club" looped like 100 times (I do live PA on the weekends, so I know shitty music when I hear it). I'm sorry, but it's just so fake and plastic. I'd rather go to a house party or a punk rock show, there at least I know I have a much better chance of meeting someone both physically and mentally stimulating. I posted a separate response to you, because you're not being an ass. I already have a problem with IcebergSlim, over here. :p


Funny one thinks all fun women are sluts. Many hot chicks that go to clubs to socialize could smoke those so called 'smarter' women both academically and professionally.

You have just proven you don't go out much if you think a club is always about rap and hip hop.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Injury
Personally, I don't care because I don't really go to clubs, but I can't support discounts for ladies AND support things like equality in the workplace and such. When I DO end up at a club I'm there to hang out with my group of friends (about half female) and it's really shitty that us guys have to pay to get in just to do that... I'm not there to meet girls, nor will I waste my time talking to the girls other than the ones I came with, yet to no one's surprise, I still have to pay $5 and spend half the time watching out for the pervs that are trying to get their hands on the girls that I'm there with. They already charge $5-6 for a pint of beer so it's not like they aren't making money aside from the cover charge... I think I'm going to start a new trend of not tipping bartenders when I have to pay a cover charge. Make up for it in other ways, ya know?

Fuck "ladies night" and other things like that. Yeah, it's their place and they can do what they want, but it's such a crock of shit it isn't funny. I realize they aren't a charity but it doesn't change the fact that it's a double standard.

Cost to get in does not exclude you from tipping...stick to your Pabst at the local dive it you can't afford the more exclusive places.

Covers serve one purpose, to limit patrons which keeps the crowds lower.

*edit*...I have never ever not gotten back more in free drinks/food than my cover at any of the clubs I regularly hung out at.
 

PhoenixOrion

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May 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: MrLee
"if you have a penis it's 10 bucks, if you have a vjayjay its free"

does it scare you to say/type VAGINA?

and yes, cover charge sucks. only way around that is to bring more girls than boys.

i learned a new word today mom! ---> yay for vjayjay!
 

miri

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If there wasnt a double standard then clubs would be like 95% dudes and 5% ladies

At some nightclubs they have to limit the amount of dudes entering even with a cover charge

So many horny guys want to goto clubs they have to keep it at a decent ratio

 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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I honestly don't know why this is a legal issue. It's simple economics...guys want pussy, guys want to go to places where they can meet pussy and they'll pay for it. Girls want to go to a happening place and have a good time and not be hassled by a bunch of losers. It's a win win situation. Why is government fucking with this?

Trust me, if all the fucking losers who are griping about this "inequality" have their way they'll never get any pussy there anyway because the pussy will go somewhere else.
 

Injury

Lifer
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Cost to get in does not exclude you from tipping...stick to your Pabst at the local dive it you can't afford the more exclusive places.

Covers serve one purpose, to limit patrons which keeps the crowds lower.

*edit*...I have never ever not gotten back more in free drinks/food than my cover at any of the clubs I regularly hung out at.

It excuses me from tipping if I damn well please. It's my money and I'll give it to whoever I want, and I will no longer give it to some bartender to perform the menial task of pouring a beer when I already paid to get in to the joint. Burn me at the stake if you want but it's going to be my new policy and I don't care. Tip is profit on top of the profit of the cover on top of the profit of overpriced drinks. Sucks for them I guess.

FYI: a $5 cover to a place that anyone willing to line up at to get in does NOT discourage less guys to come and is hardly "exclusive".