Couple of questions

[jjet67]

Hi, guys.

I'm wondering whether any of you can give me your recommendation on these questions.
I'm going to build a rig either with air or water. Please note that I'm a totally noob for water cooling.
My other components are followings:
1. Asus p5K deluxe.
2. Lian li PC-6070Bplus II Black/ Antec P182B/ Antec 900.
3. BFG 7950 GT
4. Samsung 226BW.
5. Corsair HX Series CMPSU-520HX 520W Power Supply
6. CRUCIAL BALLISTIX Tracer 2GB KIT


I don't plan to build a SLI system.
The first one is for cpu. I'm debating myself between E6600 vs. Q6600. I have read many overclocking results. It seems like Q6600 would generate a lot of heat, and it would be a difficult job to hit 3.2Ghz mark with air cooling. With water cooling, it would be a daunting task for me to correctly setup everything, but hopefully it can give me better result. 😉 Also, a proper water cooling would cost me around $300.
Again, if I go with E6600 and air, I can go with the tuniq tower and hopefully I can hit 3.4~3.6Ghz (my E6400 hit 3.4Ghz 24 hours orthos stable, which I gave to my academic advisor 😛).
To make a long stroy short, is there any starter kit for water cooling? I saw from extremesystem.org that EVA2000 could hit 3.6Ghz with corsair nortilus or something. Do you think it could be a decent (I know some of you might argue about this) starter kit for water cooling? I would be really happy if I can hit 3.2Ghz with Q6600. Otherwise, I would be better off by choosing E6600.
Please give me your suggestions so that I can make a good decision here.
Second question is that NB cooling is always required? If I go with air, any recommendation for NB cooling?
Third and the final question is which case I should choose. I have built 5 or 6 machines with Antec, and I still own some of them for my program test. As such, I would like to go with Lian Li this time but I'm not sure whether it has clearance for Tuniq tower. If I choose water cooling, which one would you recommend?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
JJET

 

[VinDSL]

Nice collection of components!

Personally, I would stick with Antec! The Antec P182SE is simply excellent! I wouldn't even mind owning one... 😀

As far as water cooling goes, I'll let the resident Water King (aigomorla) answer your questions. His opinion is gold...

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jjet67
Hi, guys.

I'm wondering whether any of you can give me your recommendation on these questions.
I'm going to build a rig either with air or water. Please note that I'm a totally noob for water cooling.
My other components are followings:
1. Asus p5K deluxe.
2. Lian li PC-6070Bplus II Black/ Antec P182B/ Antec 900.
3. BFG 7950 GT
4. Samsung 226BW.
5. Corsair HX Series CMPSU-520HX 520W Power Supply
6. CRUCIAL BALLISTIX Tracer 2GB KIT


I don't plan to build a SLI system.
The first one is for cpu. I'm debating myself between E6600 vs. Q6600. I have read many overclocking results. It seems like Q6600 would generate a lot of heat, and it would be a difficult job to hit 3.2Ghz mark with air cooling. With water cooling, it would be a daunting task for me to correctly setup everything, but hopefully it can give me better result. 😉 Also, a proper water cooling would cost me around $300.
Again, if I go with E6600 and air, I can go with the tuniq tower and hopefully I can hit 3.4~3.6Ghz (my E6400 hit 3.4Ghz 24 hours orthos stable, which I gave to my academic advisor 😛).
To make a long stroy short, is there any starter kit for water cooling? I saw from extremesystem.org that EVA2000 could hit 3.6Ghz with corsair nortilus or something. Do you think it could be a decent (I know some of you might argue about this) starter kit for water cooling? I would be really happy if I can hit 3.2Ghz with Q6600. Otherwise, I would be better off by choosing E6600.
Please give me your suggestions so that I can make a good decision here.
Second question is that NB cooling is always required? If I go with air, any recommendation for NB cooling?
Third and the final question is which case I should choose. I have built 5 or 6 machines with Antec, and I still own some of them for my program test. As such, I would like to go with Lian Li this time but I'm not sure whether it has clearance for Tuniq tower. If I choose water cooling, which one would you recommend?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
JJET

ahahahha quadcore cooling questions.

Okey, im going to make this short and quick.

I am in close communications with the owner of jab-tech. I have worked out a kit with him that will help in coolign a quadcore. This kit will hopefully be available for sale at jab-tech b4 the 266 price drop.

This kit will have either a thermochill PA120.3 radiator, or a swiftech MCR320. Im trying to see if john can set it as a upgrade option, but he says the PA series radiators sells out faster then hot cakes.

This kit will be very nicely priced. Look at jab-tech's pricing on regular parts if you dont believe me. And the parts in that kit will be hand picked by me.

Who am i your goign to ask? im the watercooling guru of this forum, with my own sticky. Look at bottom.

So if you can wait a little bit on the cooling, i would recomend you picking up one of thse quadcore watercooling kits which should come out soon.

-PEACE

 

[VinDSL]

Don't be so modest... :laugh:

 

[Zardnok]

When it comes to anything Watercooling, aigomorla definitely knows what he is talking about. He has tried out more cooling systems on Quad-Cores than anyone else I have read about. I do not have a quad-core, so I am going to just shut up about any cooling recommendations for it, except to say that I have done a lot of business with Jab-tech and they are a quality e-tailer. Their shipping costs are some of the best I have EVER seen online and their pricing is always comparable to any of the other specialty stores. If Aigo says he has a quad-core cooling package coming out in conjunction with Jab-tech, I would definitely buy whatever they have come up with collectively and will likely buy one myself if/when I make the Quad Core jump.

I do have a P5K Deluxe motherboard and can tell you that the heatpipe system on the NB/SB/Mosfets is very effective at keeping things cool. If you decide on the Q6600, I do not think you will be pushing any FSB that the stock cooling system can not handle. Given of course you have semi-decent case airflow. If not, you can always mount a fan to blow across the stock Heatpipe cooler.

As for which case to use, I built my latest system using a Thermaltake Armor case. I have 2-120mm fans mounted in the front and 2-120mm fans mounted in the back. It has oodles of space inside to mount stuff, much more room than an Antec900. I have also built a number of systems using Lian-Li cases and can attest to their quality, but for the money spent, I think the TT Armor case is better.

 

[jjet67]

I sincerely appreciate your thoughtful comments. :thumbsup: 🙂
Yes. I read aigomorla's sticky guide, which is excellent. I will follow his suggestion as well as others and wait until Jab-tech comes with a new water cooling system. Unfortunately, I have a limited time constraint (i.e., within 2 months I should spend around $6000 for my computers). On the bright side, my school allows me to build computers for myself. 🙂 So, it would be wise decision to buy E6600 with air cooling system now, and buy another one with quad core and water cooling in the middle of July. 😉
Thanks,
JJET

 

[WoodButcher]

Originally posted by: jjet67
I sincerely appreciate your thoughtful comments. :thumbsup: 🙂
Yes. I read aigomorla's sticky guide, which is excellent. I will follow his suggestion as well as others and wait until Jab-tech comes with a new water cooling system. Unfortunately, I have a limited time constraint (i.e., within 2 months I should spend around $6000 for my computers). On the bright side, my school allows me to build computers for myself. 🙂 So, it would be wise decision to buy E6600 with air cooling system now, and buy another one with quad core and water cooling in the middle of July. 😉
Thanks,
JJET

If I had funds available I'd build a quad now and a quad later! The components are available today just not as a "kit" You don't have to be a rockt scientist to do this, and fortunately for us we have 'that modest guy" to ask for recommendations to save us serfs some money.😀
I look forward to seeing "The Kit" Aigo, What will it be called? the "Morla Monster"??😉