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CZroe said:
Let's hope not. 2,227 total currently.
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But more than 500 a day. My guess (what a morbid bit of forecasting this is) would be for about 700-800 deaths for April 1 itself. Probably will reach 1000 a day within a few days of that.
 
Yessir, Trump is going to have to sit down and eat that fat diseased crow all by himself.

I hope he chokes on it too. He's too dumb to give himself a heimlich maneuver so that's some built in satisfaction right there.
 
tweaker2 said:
Yessir, Trump is going to have to sit down and eat that fat diseased crow all by himself.

I hope he chokes on it too. He's too dumb to give himself a heimlich maneuver so that's some built in satisfaction right there.
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no he won't.
he avoided prosecution despite clear evidence he committed federal crimes.

the guy is untouchable, at least while in office. And I bet after he leaves office he immediately flees to a country without an extradition treaty.
 
shortylickens said:
no he won't.
he avoided prosecution despite clear evidence he committed federal crimes.

the guy is untouchable, at least while in office. And I bet after he leaves office he immediately flees to a country without an extradition treaty.
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In the way you framed your response, I agree. My mind was focused more on the historical aspect of how Trump being Trump has managed to make controlling this killer outbreak much worse than if he just stayed the hell out of it all.
 
On no history is going to be brutal on Trump. He'll end up a bigger monster than Stalin and Hitler.
But as old and unhealthy as he is he won't know it. Donald will be gone before he sees those books or hears about lessons in school on him.
 
shortylickens said:
no he won't.
he avoided prosecution despite clear evidence he committed federal crimes.

the guy is untouchable, at least while in office. And I bet after he leaves office he immediately flees to a country without an extradition treaty.
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I don't think I'll be surprised if he doesn't attend Biden's swearing in, if he were to be somehow 'delayed with something very important' *lots of tiny hand waving* in Saudia Arabia or Russia. And yeah, he just ends up staying there. He'd need an autocracy with resources, no shitholes in Africa, of course.
 
Ha, Nancy just slapped the Nero sticker on dipshit's forehead.


Speaker Pelosi said "his denial at the beginning was deadly" and that as he "fiddles, people are dying."
 
This morning I was convinced that Trump would not be swayed by science and would seek to reopen America in a week or so. I am very happy to be proven wrong. Trump did the right thing and is finally speaking in "real talk" to his base.
 
shortylickens said:
On no history is going to be brutal on Trump. He'll end up a bigger monster than Stalin and Hitler.
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That's overdoing it. But worst President in United States history, past or present? Absolutely. Worst American in United States history, too? Pretty close...
 
IronWing said:
It's 81F in New Orleans and 87F in Miami at the moment and the infection/death rates are climbing. Temperature and humidity don't seem to matter much.
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They might play a factor all other things being equal. The problem, of course, is that other things aren't equal.
 
CZroe said:
What were the temps 3 weeks ago?
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My point was, "What is the temp in NYC now?" How high does the temp have to get to have any effect? If places that are already hot/damp still have high rates of transmission it doesn't bode well for the idea that warm weather is going to provide relief.
 
IronWing said:
My point was, "What is the temp in NYC now?" How high does the temp have to get to have any effect? If places that are already hot/damp still have high rates of transmission it doesn't bode well for the idea that warm weather is going to provide relief.
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I heard that it wasn't really the Temp, but the amount of Sunlight that mattered, potentially.
 
IronWing said:
My point was, "What is the temp in NYC now?" How high does the temp have to get to have any effect? If places that are already hot/damp still have high rates of transmission it doesn't bode well for the idea that warm weather is going to provide relief.
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It snowed in Tokyo yesterday. If it was cold in NYC when the current crop of infected people got infected two to three weeks ago then it's going to take a few weeks for the higher temps to show an effect (if there is an effect).
 
CZroe said:
Yeah. UV could be a huge factor.
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Southern Arizona is entering the spring pattern (finally, it was delayed a bit this year) of hot, dry weather with the highest solar UV insolation of anywhere in the continental US so we'll see how it goes. I hope this idea is correct.
 
IronWing said:
Southern Arizona is entering the spring pattern (finally, it was delayed a bit this year) of hot, dry weather with the highest solar UV insolation of anywhere in the continental US so we'll see how it goes. I hope this idea is correct.
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If it is correct, that just means it will likely flare up again in the Fall. It would still be better though, because it would give us time to prepare and even recover a bit.
 
soundforbjt said:
How does heat explain the nearly 5,000 cases in Brazil where it was Summer when it started?
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Well, 5,000 really isn't that much for such a large country and there are parts of Brazil as far away from the equator as parts of Florida (24°). Also, flu seasons happen in warm places too because of an increased number of imported cases that manage to spread a little bit and possibly a shift in UV due to the angle of the sun. That's how the flu does it.

Even if summer has a similar effect like it does with the flu, we have zero immunity and the viral load/shedding is off the charts (10,000 more than the flu, IIRC). That means the summer effect could be rather significant and yet it could still spread easily relative to the flu. Doesn't mean we won't gladly accept any reduction!

I'm still holding out hope that there will be *some* reduction in summer, even if it's less than I'd like.
 
CZroe said:
Well, 5,000 really isn't that much for such a large country and there are parts of Brazil as far away from the equator as parts of Florida (24°). Also, flu seasons happen in warm places too because of an increased number of imported cases that manage to spread a little bit and possibly a shift in UV due to the angle of the sun. That's how the flu does it.

Even if summer has a similar effect like it does with the flu, we have zero immunity and the viral load/shedding is off the charts (10,000 more than the flu, IIRC). That means the summer effect could be rather significant and yet it could still spread easily relative to the flu. Doesn't mean we won't gladly accept any reduction!

I'm still holding out hope that there will be *some* reduction in summer, even if it's less than I'd like.
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riotimesonline.com

Oxford Researchers Project 478,000 Covid-19 Deaths in Brazil | The Rio Times

The estimate is based on a preliminary study published by researchers from Oxford University, England, on March 14th.
riotimesonline.com riotimesonline.com
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Looks like it's just getting going down there.
 
Still waiting to see if there is a huge surge in Florida and Georgia from the beach goers. Proximity is the culprit not temperature. Flu naturally is higher during the winter since more people in doors in close proximity. Not that cold helps the spread of the flu and heat kills it.
 
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