Could you butcher your own dinner?

[LethalWolfe]

<< Why the hell is it retarded? It's a theoretical question.

Really not even that huge of a stretch, you need licenses to buy guns, liquor, and drive. >>



Do you have to be a gunsmith to get a license to own a firearm?
Do you have to know how to make liquor in order to sell it?
Do you have to build a car before you can legally drive one?

Just because it's a theoretical question doesn't mean it can't be stupid.


Lethal

 

[flavio]

If you miss the obvious point does it mean that you're stupid?

 

[LethalWolfe]

<< If you miss the obvious point does it mean that you're stupid? >>



Theoretically, or literally speaking?


Lethal

 

[flavio]

Why theoretically of course.

 

[TallBill]

uh.. well this is obvious.. we dont fully understand the cutting up of cows because we've never in our lives had to do it, or probably have even seen the experience... the people that do do it somehow had it brought into their lives that it was normal.. i mean.. if it meant life or death (like it was in the past) then hell yeah i'll slice up a chicken... but in todays society, its not life or death to kill an animal.. you just buy it.. or something else... which is great , and that right should not be taken away

 

[SuperSix]

<< Why the hell is it retarded? It's a theoretical question.

Really not even that huge of a stretch, you need licenses to buy guns, liquor, and drive. >>



Really stupid concept.

Yea, humans developed canines (teeth) to eat lettuce.


:disgust:

Do you belong to PETA?

 

[flavio]

I fscking eat meat!

HERE IS POINT ==>>> COULD YOU SLIT A COWS THROAT AND GUT IT? <<<== POINT


See that ^^^^^ right up there ^^^^^^ see?


Has nothing to do with lettuce or canines or morality or any of that crap.

Just do have the stomache to kill your own food or not?


Got it?

 

[jjones]

i wonder how many people would eat vegetables if they had to grow them? my guess is not many.

 

[jjones]

<< HERE IS POINT ==>>> COULD YOU SLIT A COWS THROAT AND GUT IT? <<<== POINT >>


sure, with a little help, no problem. just like i've gutted and cleaned many animals before i eat them. just like i've tracked them down and killed them. i don't understand what is such a big deal; men have always been hunting, killing, cleaning and eating animals. are you saying you're squeamish? or do you just not want to get on the victim's bad side?

 

[cavingjan]

The point from the above post: probably. I hunt. A cow critter is no different from anything else I've shot, gutted, and butchered. Just a little more friendly and bigger. But personally I'd much rather take the bolt gun to its head. Wouldn't take much to squsih me when it drops.

 

[TallBill]

<< i wonder how many people would eat vegetables if they had to grow them? my guess is not many. >>



or what about grain based foods.. you gonna go through all the steps it makes to bake some bread?

hellz no.. i'll eat dirt... but the point is we dont have to!

 

[flavio]

<< just like i've gutted and cleaned many animals before i eat them. just like i've tracked them down and killed them. i don't understand what is such a big deal >>



I think it would be a big deal to very many people. Maybe not experienced hunters. But i doubt that there is a majority of people that would be able to stomache it. It used to be very common years ago. For my grandmother, killing and cleaning chickens was a regular duty. But I doubt my mom could even do it.



<< I'd much rather take the bolt gun to its head. Wouldn't take much to squsih me when it drops >>



The practice I've seen is to have the cow on the other side with only it's head sticking through. Then they use a saw-like blade on the throat. No chance of getting squished. I don't really know what the bolt guns look like.




<< but the point is we dont have to! >>



Cop out...

 

[Shalmanese]

First point of contention is simply one of economics, Animal killers are far more efficient in killing animals than everybody else, by the time you drove to the salughter house and killed an animal inefficiently, a good animal killer would have killed 10.

but since this is a theoretical Q, I guess it doesnt matter.

My answer to the Q is that, not at first but we would get used to it very quickly. If a child grows up with their parents gutting animals every 2nd week, then he would have no problems gutting them himself when he can. We used to gut our own animals so there is not inherent barrier but, rather a cultural one. I think one generation would be all it takes for meat consumption to be back at original levels.

 

[jjones]

<< For my grandmother, killing and cleaning chickens was a regular duty. But I doubt my mom could even do it. >>


yeah, well your granny probably can't use a computer. so what? your granny wasn't raised to use computers; people today aren't raised to hunt and kill their food because it's not necessary. i still don't see your point. are you trying to make some kind of moral statement? like people eat meat but couldn't even kill it and clean it? get out of your room and experience a little life. lots and lots of people still hunt and many more fish; don't worry, it's not a lost art. i learned to clean animals on my uncle's farm from the age of about 8 years old. we killed cute little bunnies, skinned and gutted them and then roasted and ate them. mmm...taste like chicken.

 

[flavio]

No moral statement...I said that up there ^^^

Why are you trying to make this into more than it is? This is about would the average Anandtecher be cool with killing his dinner. My granny is pretty good with a computer too, but that's another thread.

Your bunny killing has been noted, so I think what you're saying is yes, your cool with killing your supper.

*makes chalk mark*

 

[sciencetoy]

I grew up on a farm and it wouldn't bother me at all to to butcher my own meat - we did a lot of that. You idiots, there is something called a food chain, where some things eat other things. Does that bother you? Get over it. Air is there to be breathed, meat & nonmeat is there to be eaten.

Animals are not cute and cuddly except for baby animals. Turkeys are possibly the worst excuse for a creature that was ever invented - what was mother nature thinking? Strong, nasty, stupid, mean. If you've ever lived with a turkey you appreciate thanksgiving dinner - one less dumb bird, yay. Sheep are - well, they're called "sheep" for a reason. Goats - ahhhh, god, if you know anything about goats you'll appreciate goat curry. Chickens? Nuisance, but good eating. Rabbits, easier than chickens and four legs to boot. Pigs? Actually, I like pigs a lot - but the main reason to put up with pigs is that they are darned good eating.

You have every right to your own opinion - I would never force anyone to eat meat. However, you have no right to tell other people what to do. What is your own personal experience raising and butchering meat? If you don't know anything about it, you shouldn't try to preach to those of us who do.

And speaking of veggies, did you ever notice that there is something called SEASONS? For example, strawberries are native to a few specific climates where they appear for a few short weeks in the spring. The genetic changes and the resources necessary to make strawberries appear year-round in all supermarkets have wreaked as much havoc on this planet if not more, than anything having to do with meat. How come you didn't mention that? Eating strawberries in New Jersey in November is as twisted a thing as eating meat at MacDonalds. Hell, the potatoes at McD's are pretty wacky, too - all that fertilizer, processing, transportation, etc.

Hey, I'm hungry. Gonna go out to the back and skin one of those pesky raccoons . . .

 

[jjones]

<< Why are you trying to make this into more than it is? This is about would the average Anandtecher be cool with killing his dinner. >>


i'm not really trying to make more into this but your original question is kind of preposterous. assuming you had to have a license, that would mean your parents would have to have a license and that this practice would be an integral part of our society. in such a case, you would be raised to kill and clean animals. to suddenly impose this requirement of killing and cleaning animals doesn't make sense. most people aren't raised to kill and clean animals these days but if laws were in place to requiring a license, you can bet most people would be able to do it.

 

[Tominator]

To someont that has indeed harvested, butchered and cooked meat this is indeed is an ignorant thread.

Anyone with even a partial upbringing on a Farm or Ranch or anyone that hunts has done this.

Why would you need a license? Millions of folks have been butchering for longer that you've been alive...

 

[cavingjan]

sciencetoy: your description of a turkey is just baout right but I must say a camel is worse. At least a turkey makes good eating. Camels are nasty, the milk is worse, and they are more stubborn than a mule. (But not quite as stubborn as I can be- ok as stubborn as I usually am) But I guess they can make good pack animals.

 

[flavio]

<< You have every right to your own opinion - I would never force anyone to eat meat. However, you have no right to tell other people what to do. What is your own personal experience raising and butchering meat? If you don't know anything about it, you shouldn't try to preach to those of us who do. >>



Why is it that no matter what I type some people are immediately assuming that I am preaching vegetarianism because of this thread?

I EAT MEAT <---------------------------------------------------

I simply think that alot of people wouldn't have the stomache to butcher their own dinner. I'm changing the freakin' title.

 

[tcsenter]

<< Could you butcher your own dinner? >>

Well, I don't think its going to cook ITSELF then come sit on my plate!

<< My own opinion is that if I had to do it myself, I would probably look for something else to eat. Perhaps fish, since it is not as grisly of a process. >>

What you're referring to is entirely a matter of emotions or irrational fears. Imagine if doctors couldn't stand the sight of blood, or couldn't set a broken bone because it 'cracks' and 'pops' when you put it back in place. We'd all be F-CKED! Some of us wouldn't, and I think that the reason that many people have gotten weak in the knees and spines is because someone else will do the difficult things for us. If you were in the middle of nowhere, and you had to rely only upon you, or die, you would feel differently.

So, its all a matter of perception and state of mind, which bare necessity has a way of altering. Fish guts are no less "gross" than cow guts, there's just less of them to deal with. MUCH less.

 

[pulse8]

If I was going to starve otherwise, I'd kill the cow.

 

[Azraele]

<< Could you butcher your own dinner? >>


Yes, I can burn water on low heat.



As for the question, as it stands right now, no, I couldn't do it. If I got hungry enough, maybe....

 

[Kenazo]

Been there done that. Chicken, turkey, beef, goose, partridge, pheasant, deer........squirrel

 

[mesonw]

I could kill my own dinner to eat it if I had to.
Unless I thought it was gonna get angry part way through and try and trample me :Q