Could Wal-Mart decide the format war?

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: josh0099

Originally posted by: cubby1223
http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/
http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd-uk/
http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd-de/
http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd-jp/

Blu-ray is building what I think is an unsurmountable lead. And that's without much help at all from FOX or Disney studios, which should start up releasing more titles again this fall, in time for holiday sales.

This cheap hd-dvd player will not decide the format war, it can only drag this pointless war on for years to come. And forget about combo players, I don't expetect to see Samsung combo player anymore, which possibly would have to take a loss on each sale to be price competitive.

Wow interesting stat....
Average Amazon.com price

Blu-Ray: $29.00
HD-DVD: $38.90

Not sure why there is such a big difference but interesting none the less...

That particular statistic is being calculated wrong, though, on both sides I suspect. Unless it's factoring what's being sold, because a lot of the hd-dvd sales are of Planet Earth and the Matrix collections, up at $70 & $85 for the sets.

Most all other movies are equally priced, ~$20 for older releases, and $24 or $28 for new releases.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Parasitic
I don't know...if it weren't for Walmart there wouldn't be censored audio CD's and fullscreen DVD's.

Other big chain retailers also call for that stuff.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Parasitic
I don't know...if it weren't for Walmart there wouldn't be censored audio CD's and fullscreen DVD's.

Other big chain retailers also call for that stuff.

Either way, it should be illegal. I've gotten as gifts full-screen versions of Lord of the Rings & Batman Begins.

 

[Geocentricity]

Originally posted by: AnyMal
Can they? Absolutely, thay ARE the largest retailer in the world. Will they? Not likely, since $300.00 is too much for a typical Walmart shopper to spend on a DVD player and $20.00 + on a disk.

Walmart caters to people of all income ranges. People easily drop hundreds on TVs and BBQ grills, why wouldn't they on a HD DVD player?

 

[slpaulson]

I think walmart has the power to decide it, but I don't necessarily think a $300 player is low enough to decide it. If they get sub $100, I think that could go a long ways towards determining who wins the format war.

 

[AlienCraft]

Hell yes. I'm old enough to remember the BETAMAX v VHS debate.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: cRazYdood
I think walmart has the power to decide it, but I don't necessarily think a $300 player is low enough to decide it. If they get sub $100, I think that could go a long ways towards determining who wins the format war.

If you look at the crown jewel of customer adoption look at the DVD.

Here's what drove it:

1) Cheap movies
2) Cheap players
3) No degradation in quality
4) Enthusiasts getting OAR

All of those still apply. There is no real way for a customer to choose other than price and familiarity IMHO.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

Anytime I hear somebody defending HD-DVD all I hear is them hating Sony for no reason other than it's "cool" to hate Sony.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

Anytime I hear somebody defending HD-DVD all I hear is them hating Sony for no reason other than it's "cool" to hate Sony.

How do you like Resistence?

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

Anytime I hear somebody defending HD-DVD all I hear is them hating Sony for no reason other than it's "cool" to hate Sony.

How do you like Resistence?

It's Resistance. And I like it, along with the other 5 PS3 games I have. Have you ever even played a PS3?

I also have a Wii and I play my friends 360. I'm not an elitist asshole when it comes to video game systems.. just when it comes to posting on the forums.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Price slashing will start happening with Blu-Ray too. Anyway, the only reason that Hd-Dvd won the sales for a month was because people actually organized a massive buy party. The month after, Blu Ray was wining again. I don't think even Wal-mart could change that.

Blu-Ray also has the studios going for it.

Although they raised the average rankings in Amazon, that organized buy barely cut into the monthly numbers....the average for sales for the year have been 7 blu ray discs sold for every 3 HD DVD disc that were sold..

Here are some sales ratios from the highdef forums:

Since Inception:
Blu-ray: 57% HD-DVD: 43%

YTD sales
Blu-ray: 69% HD-DVD: 31%

Week ended April 15
Blu-ray: 61% HD-DVD: 39%


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[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

And hd-dvd defenders are either justifying their expensive player purchases, or justifying their irrational belief that Sony is the root of all things evil (or some other non-sense along those lines).

While most people in reality just want this stupid, pointless war over. The movies I want to buy & watch are overwhelmingly on blu-ray, Transporter, Crank, Casino Royale, Rocky, Pirates of the Carribean, Stranger than Fiction, Talladega Nights...

So what am I supposed to do? Support something that will only drag this war out for years to come, just because I'm supposed to blindly hate Sony like everyone else?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

Anytime I hear somebody defending HD-DVD all I hear is them hating Sony for no reason other than it's "cool" to hate Sony.

It has nothing to do with it being "cool" to hate Sony. Sony has given people PLENTY of reasons to hate or distrust them.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

Anytime I hear somebody defending HD-DVD all I hear is them hating Sony for no reason other than it's "cool" to hate Sony.

It has nothing to do with it being "cool" to hate Sony. Sony has given people PLENTY of reasons to hate or distrust them.

Do Sony's press releases hurt your feelings? I'm sorry.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

Anytime I hear somebody defending HD-DVD all I hear is them hating Sony for no reason other than it's "cool" to hate Sony.

It has nothing to do with it being "cool" to hate Sony. Sony has given people PLENTY of reasons to hate or distrust them.

Do Sony's press releases hurt your feelings? I'm sorry.

Why did you respond in such a childish way?

I'll give you one very good reason people dislike and distrust Sony: rootkit.

I don't think I need to name any more.

 

[Indolent]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Most all other movies are equally priced, ~$20 for older releases, and $24 or $28 for new releases.

So if HD-DVD is cheaper to make, is there any reason for the retail prices to be almost the same? If the HD-DVD camp wanted to win, why don't they sell for cheaper at retail?

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

Anytime I hear somebody defending HD-DVD all I hear is them hating Sony for no reason other than it's "cool" to hate Sony.

It has nothing to do with it being "cool" to hate Sony. Sony has given people PLENTY of reasons to hate or distrust them.

Do Sony's press releases hurt your feelings? I'm sorry.

Why did you respond in such a childish way?

I'll give you one very good reason people dislike and distrust Sony: rootkit.

I don't think I need to name any more.

Does the rootkit fiasco affect your game playing or movie watching experience in any way?

 

[AkumaX]

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/blu-ray-disc-one-million-served/

must feed the trolls

 

[Indolent]

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Most all other movies are equally priced, ~$20 for older releases, and $24 or $28 for new releases.

So if HD-DVD is cheaper to make, is there any reason for the retail prices to be almost the same? If the HD-DVD camp wanted to win, why don't they sell for cheaper at retail?

And companies usually try to cut their cost at all times. What reasons do the BD only companies have to support a more expensive technology?

*oops, this was supposed to be an edit, not reply

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

Not only do I not own a PS3, but I have never even played one before. Not a friends, not a store demo, none of them. I support Blu-Ray

I really couldn't care who wins though. Id rather there be a clear format instead of both.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What are the odds that any given Blu-Ray supporter is not already a PS3 owner?

Anytime I hear somebody defending Blu-Ray all I hear is them justifying their expensive impulse PS3 purchase.

Anytime I hear somebody defending HD-DVD all I hear is them hating Sony for no reason other than it's "cool" to hate Sony.

It has nothing to do with it being "cool" to hate Sony. Sony has given people PLENTY of reasons to hate or distrust them.

Do Sony's press releases hurt your feelings? I'm sorry.

Why did you respond in such a childish way?

I'll give you one very good reason people dislike and distrust Sony: rootkit.

I don't think I need to name any more.

Does the rootkit fiasco affect your game playing or movie watching experience in any way?

No. Please read my posts again. I made it very clear that I was referring specifically to why people dislike and distrust Sony. You want something specific to movies or video games? How about Sony's idiotic copy protection that made their DVDs unplayable on their own DVD players? How about the C 13:00 error that was common on a half dozen Sony DVD players and caused them to fail after 18-24 months? How about the PSX? Do you like playing your video games upside down? How about the PS2? I've never had to open up any of my other game systems to make adjustments.

I'm not even opposed to Blu-Ray. I'm just tired of hearing you Sony fanboys say that everyone hates Sony for no reason or because it's "cool" to hate Sony. You know that's BS. Sony brought this on themselves by making sh!t and charging a premium price for it.

 

[preslove]

I don't own an HD tv or have any plans to get a player, but I love the HD war All these grown men throwing around such heated invective over a small consumer electronics market-segment, it's so absurd it's funny.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: mugs

No. Please read my posts again. I made it very clear that I was referring specifically to why people dislike and distrust Sony. You want something specific to movies or video games? How about Sony's idiotic copy protection that made their DVDs unplayable on their own DVD players? How about the C 13:00 error that was common on a half dozen Sony DVD players and caused them to fail after 18-24 months? How about the PSX? Do you like playing your video games upside down? How about the PS2? I've never had to open up any of my other game systems to make adjustments.

Do you share the same love for Microsoft and the 360? They have a shady past. Many consider them ruthless. Their consoles have had various issues. Seems pretty similar to Sony.

 

[50cent1228]

yup