Whoozyerdaddy
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In Alaska it's not uncommon to see a DL with "No Photo Required" where the pic should be. There's no DMV in many of the villages so the licenses are issued from Anchorage or Fairbanks with no photo.
BrunoPuntzJones
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Bowfinger
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Since you seem to feel anonymity is wrong, how about putting your money where your mouth is and giving us all your real name and address?
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Thought not.
The United States is supposed to be about exalting personal liberties. Have you ever thought about moving to a country where your kind of thinking is valued, e.g., North Korea?
Well what happens if it is cold and you want to wear a bacalava? What about Montana and Alaska? What happens when you go skiing?
I might ok a law which says if you wear a ski mask in public that the cops have an automatic right to search you as a syspected terrorist. My wife who is korean was pulled over because she had a box in the back of her truck. This is the same thing.
I might ok a law which says if you wear a ski mask in public that the cops have an automatic right to search you as a syspected terrorist. My wife who is korean was pulled over because she had a box in the back of her truck. This is the same thing.
A funny thing I've noticed about people like PoJo is that while they pay lip service to the idea protesting, its always highly distanced from protesting in the real world. You know, they might do something bad, so lets require them to reveal their faces. They might cause traffic delays, so lets have them protest in small groups and only during certain times. They might cause a ruckus, so let's hole them up in a fenced 'free speech zone' and have them guarded by the police.
I see you referencing the Seattle WTO protests and, as is usually the case with you, you're blathering the usual partisan FUD!!!
Let me tell you what it was like there Prof. I was working downtown during the whole damn thing. There were THOUSANDS of protestor's from all over the bloody world. There were tons of people dressed in costumes demonstrating for their various causes. You had a combination of very poor police planning on the city's part and way more demonstrators than anyone thought possible. The Sh1t didn't hit the fan until the overwhelmed and completely understaffed Seattle Police Department started panicking and launching tear gas. Yes there were a few anarchists that totally took advantage of the situation and caused a vast majority of the damage but they were just that...a small minority.
I, for one, found it surreal walking around the streets, smelling tear gas, pepper spray, etc. I also was extremely humbled by the bravery of some of the cops as well as the protestor's who tried to defuse a situation that had already exploded. This, in my view, is exactly what America is all about. Freedom means taking the good with the bad.
Only fascists want to limit that freedom in the name of security!! :|
Let me tell you what it was like there Prof. I was working downtown during the whole damn thing. There were THOUSANDS of protestor's from all over the bloody world. There were tons of people dressed in costumes demonstrating for their various causes. You had a combination of very poor police planning on the city's part and way more demonstrators than anyone thought possible. The Sh1t didn't hit the fan until the overwhelmed and completely understaffed Seattle Police Department started panicking and launching tear gas. Yes there were a few anarchists that totally took advantage of the situation and caused a vast majority of the damage but they were just that...a small minority.
I, for one, found it surreal walking around the streets, smelling tear gas, pepper spray, etc. I also was extremely humbled by the bravery of some of the cops as well as the protestor's who tried to defuse a situation that had already exploded. This, in my view, is exactly what America is all about. Freedom means taking the good with the bad.
Only fascists want to limit that freedom in the name of security!! :|
judasmachine
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we should arrest anyone who threatens to take away a US citizens right to wear whatever the hell they want whenever the hell they want to. (short of thongs on old men)
judasmachine
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judasmachine
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Originally posted by: PingSpike
History is written by the victor. Its spelled, revolutionaries.
terrorism, revolution, subversion, sabotage are all just tools for the underdog, it's just warfare no matter how you slice it.
Steeplerot
Lifer
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For all the talk about small government staying out of people business and all the libertarian lip service these folks show their true colors.
Submit to the government or else, right comrades?
FOS as usual, and you all wonder why people do not take conservatism seriously?
Modern conservatives = goosesteppers too lazy to march.
Will the right ever learn?
Submit to the government or else, right comrades?
FOS as usual, and you all wonder why people do not take conservatism seriously?
Modern conservatives = goosesteppers too lazy to march.
Will the right ever learn?
Steeplerot
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Well that is somewhat comforting, although knowing puffer john this is a popular talking point in the right wing blogosphere.
In this day and age of cameras everywhere there is really no other choice but to wear bandannas on your face.
Hell, when I go to events I wear one, not because I cause any harm but because there is always a ton of rightwingnuts filming everything and snooping into peoples lives.
Also I am not into being gassed by overzealous cops for using my rights protected by our constitution.
Covering your nose and mouth helps with not getting ill from the inevitable teargas/pepperspray canisters.
You seem awfully obsessed with protesters lately, what's your deal? You just can't stand people who are opposed to this war, can you?
Are you trolling? I'm not making a personal attack, I'm asking you honestly. Are you trolling? Do you really mean this:
"why we haven?t made it illegal for people to protest in masks and hoods?"
I am sorry but reading this actually brought a tear to my eye. Because of your posting history I figured you seriously meant that. If you were serious...I can't fathom the kind of thinking that would lead someone to think like that. I literally can't wrap my mind around it. I can't understand it. It is so foriegn to me. I just can't imagine myself ever saying that someone can't anonmyously express themselves. I just can't imagine that the free country I grew up in is turning out like this. What is even scarrier is the people in power right now seem to be asking those same kind of questions.
I really hope you weren't serious.
Wearing a mask or not isn't going to save you if you commit a crime and the police come and handcuff you.
Hiding your identity is not wrong.
This country was founded by people who wrote things under pseudonyms to hide their identity. Our very constitution had things written anonymously for and against its ratification. The people wrote anonmyously and would sign with fictional names.
Think about what you are saying. Really, really, think about it.
"why we haven?t made it illegal for people to protest in masks and hoods?"
I am sorry but reading this actually brought a tear to my eye. Because of your posting history I figured you seriously meant that. If you were serious...I can't fathom the kind of thinking that would lead someone to think like that. I literally can't wrap my mind around it. I can't understand it. It is so foriegn to me. I just can't imagine myself ever saying that someone can't anonmyously express themselves. I just can't imagine that the free country I grew up in is turning out like this. What is even scarrier is the people in power right now seem to be asking those same kind of questions.
I really hope you weren't serious.
Wearing a mask or not isn't going to save you if you commit a crime and the police come and handcuff you.
Hiding your identity is not wrong.
This country was founded by people who wrote things under pseudonyms to hide their identity. Our very constitution had things written anonymously for and against its ratification. The people wrote anonmyously and would sign with fictional names.
Think about what you are saying. Really, really, think about it.
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I am more concerned with the destruction of property than the flag burning bit.
There were hundreds if not thousands of people at the Portland rally and they all got their messages out without the need to resort to hiding their faces via masks. Inevitably in nearly every case like this it is the few dozen that feel the need to show up with masks on that cause all the damage to property and vandalism.
The idea of making the mask thing illegal is that the peaceful protesters can still get their message out, but the violent and destructive people will be robbed of the chance to engage in their anti-social behavior.
And for those of you attacking me here is the law in North Carolina:
?No person or persons shall in this State, while wearing any mask, hood or device whereby the person, face or voice is disguised so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter, or appear upon or within the public property of any municipality or county of the State, or of the State of North Carolina. (1953, c. 1193, s. 7.)?
And this little ruling by the 2nd court.
There were hundreds if not thousands of people at the Portland rally and they all got their messages out without the need to resort to hiding their faces via masks. Inevitably in nearly every case like this it is the few dozen that feel the need to show up with masks on that cause all the damage to property and vandalism.
The idea of making the mask thing illegal is that the peaceful protesters can still get their message out, but the violent and destructive people will be robbed of the chance to engage in their anti-social behavior.
And for those of you attacking me here is the law in North Carolina:
?No person or persons shall in this State, while wearing any mask, hood or device whereby the person, face or voice is disguised so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter, or appear upon or within the public property of any municipality or county of the State, or of the State of North Carolina. (1953, c. 1193, s. 7.)?
And this little ruling by the 2nd court.
They are also illegal in at least West Va, Va and Fl and I am sure if I dug around enough I could find laws in nearly every state.
Steeplerot
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XMan
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Jawohl, und seig heil, herr Führer! When you're through with the First Amendment, I'm sure there are more you'd love to destroy. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:
< Fixed German spelling. Thanks, Boberfett.
Godwin's law FTW.
PJ is making a poor argument, but that's no excuse to label him a Nazi, Harv.
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