Corzine Wins, Kaine Wins, Democrats Win.

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: HBalzer

Republicans actually want some substance and someone with some dignity and morals.

If that is true, how do you explain the abomination the present Government has become ?

Saint Tom the DeLay is your Posterboy.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Pepsei
if you don't live in virginia, you don't know how conservative this state really is. strangely, i work with a room full of freaking liberals (4).

Very true. The Democrats in Va. would be Republicans in California. Kaine's win doesn't mean much, other than demonstrating that Bush has very weak political capital right now, which is very obvious anyway. Anyone trying to read too much into Kaine's win needs to remember that while Warner, a Democrat, won in '01, the state still went reliably Republican in '02 and '04 in national elections.

Ummm, with all due respect, Bush personally campaigned on the loser's behalf, repeatedly, made a personal plea for support from the state's Repubs. This does prove something, that the Republican right-winger agenda is going to fail and fail miserably.

Originally posted by: HBalzer
Kilgore lost the election if you saw the ads you know why. Smear tactics work for Democrats they love believing everything they hear especially if it?s bad. Republicans actually want some substance and someone with some dignity and morals.

In NJ, The Republican brought in the Ex-wife of his Democratic challenger and ran ads based on their personal dirty laundry. Hypocrisy is THE strong suit of the Republicans I see. Oh, that and LOSING. hahah!

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: HBalzer

Republicans actually want some substance and someone with some dignity and morals.

If that is true, how do you explain the abomination the present Government has become ?

Saint Tom the DeLay is your Posterboy.

Yeah, they're all "dignity and morals" while they out covert CIA operatives and host criminals in DC who have given the Iranians secret information that endangers our troops. :roll:

 

[HBalzer]

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Originally posted by: HBalzer
Kilgore lost the election if you saw the ads you know why. Smear tactics work for Democrats they love believing everything they hear especially if it?s bad. Republicans actually want some substance and someone with some dignity and morals.
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Originally posted by:arsbanned

In NJ, The Republican brought in the Ex-wife of his Democratic challenger and ran ads based on their personal dirty laundry. Hypocrisy is THE strong suit of the Republicans I see. Oh, that and LOSING. hahah!


Obviously you failed to see my point and helped prove it. In NJ the Republican probably lost because of his crude campaigning techniques. Let me clarify most Republican Voters want some one they can respect.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Pepsei
if you don't live in virginia, you don't know how conservative this state really is. strangely, i work with a room full of freaking liberals (4).

Very true. The Democrats in Va. would be Republicans in California. Kaine's win doesn't mean much, other than demonstrating that Bush has very weak political capital right now, which is very obvious anyway. Anyone trying to read too much into Kaine's win needs to remember that while Warner, a Democrat, won in '01, the state still went reliably Republican in '02 and '04 in national elections.

Ummm, with all due respect, Bush personally campaigned on the loser's behalf, repeatedly, made a personal plea for support from the state's Repubs. This does prove something, that the Republican right-winger agenda is going to fail and fail miserably.

Did I not note that "Bush has very weak political capital right now", which is obvious to anyone who can read a poll? But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your own little version of reality. And don't forget that of the three statewide offices up for grabs in Va., Republicans appear to have won two of them. I guess winning 2 out of 3 counts as a loss in Democratic math.

 

[Steeplerot]

The lt. general position in Virginia is nothing more then a figurehead...

They debated this on local news right after the polls closed and the dem strategist being interviewed said they put their efforts elsewhere so they did not expect to see a win nor would it matter....

 

[Genx87]

lmao the news is pushing this story this morning. Minneapolis and St Paul are supposed to be referendums on Bush. The media made a big deal about Mayor Kelley getting the boot because he supported bush. afaik he is a democrats and got beat by an independent lmao.

So now democrats are so desperate they are claiming a victory when independents win lmao.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87
lmao the news is pushing this story this morning. Minneapolis and St Paul are supposed to be referendums on Bush. The media made a big deal about Mayor Kelley getting the boot because he supported bush. afaik he is a democrats and got beat by an independent lmao.

So now democrats are so desperate they are claiming a victory when independents win lmao.

Yeah, they got in a more liberal person then the dem, that works too.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87
lmao the news is pushing this story this morning. Minneapolis and St Paul are supposed to be referendums on Bush. The media made a big deal about Mayor Kelley getting the boot because he supported bush. afaik he is a democrats and got beat by an independent lmao.

So now democrats are so desperate they are claiming a victory when independents win lmao.

Yeah, they got in a more liberal person then the dem, that works too.

lmao desperation by democrats, I love it.

 

[Steeplerot]

No, whats desperate is the right couldnt even defeat the liberals when divided

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

This isn't being realistic. Bush can out visibly in support of Kilgore at the last moment in a very close race, and Kilgore still lost. In fact, the polls before Bush came out in support showed the election closer than it actually was, suggesting Bush HURT Kilgore by visably coming out in support of him. This is definately going to have at least somewhat of a negative effect on Bush, and it may make it harder to find top Republican candidates willing to make a try for the possible contestible seats in the elections next midterm given what the results of the governer's race may indicate about current political conditions in the state.

Well, Clinton killed Gore when he supported his nomination.

Uuuhhhhmmmmm......Gore actually WON the popular vote. Nice try though.

Must have forget we live in a representative democracy, not a direct democracy.
I know the left is trying to change that, but until they manage to amend the constitution you have to live with.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

This isn't being realistic. Bush can out visibly in support of Kilgore at the last moment in a very close race, and Kilgore still lost. In fact, the polls before Bush came out in support showed the election closer than it actually was, suggesting Bush HURT Kilgore by visably coming out in support of him. This is definately going to have at least somewhat of a negative effect on Bush, and it may make it harder to find top Republican candidates willing to make a try for the possible contestible seats in the elections next midterm given what the results of the governer's race may indicate about current political conditions in the state.

Well, Clinton killed Gore when he supported his nomination.

Uuuhhhhmmmmm......Gore actually WON the popular vote. Nice try though.

Must have forget we live in a representative democracy, not a direct democracy.
I know the left is trying to change that, but until they manage to amend the constitution you have to live with.

So, you think having the most uninformed and isolated part of the country should have more of a say then the actual majority?

Sounds like the red states begging for handouts again... :laugh:

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
No, whats desperate is the right couldnt even defeat the liberals when divided

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Um there wasnt a republican even running in either races lmao. 2 independents and 2 democrats and the democrats actually lost a seat.

It was 4 white liberals running for mayors in those cities.

btw I enjoyed watching RT Rybaks speech last night. Lets see, Minneapolis is a city that is probably ~70-80% black. At his party I see 1 black person and a bunch of white liberals. Just classic.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Minneapolis is a city that is probably ~70-80% black.

link?

 

[Moonbeam]

Hehehehe, a huge win for Democrats and a slap in the face for the chimp. It's always darkest before the dawn. A revolution in cooperative thinking has begun. We will begin to learn to love our neighbors and stop the insane Republican individualistic competition because our neighbor is ourself. Real Christianity will begin to rear it's beautiful head and we will start to see the Light of God rather than the words of the money changers. Joy to the World, the Republicans are done. The End Times for the psychically crippled is here. Hall e lu jah Hall e lu jah Hall e lu jah Hall e lu jah Hall e lu u u u u jah!

 

[Bitek]

Repubs were crushed, and the Dems have become energized and confident moving into '06. They carry momentum, and the GOP has been delivered a shot across the bow. There is no other way to read it. Nationally the Reps will move further away for the unpopular President and his Pro-Torture VP to try and save themselves. The Bush dynasty is unraveling before our eyes.

NJ did have a dem gov, a wildly corrupt adulterous homosexual who ran the budget up by billions who was ousted in a cloud of disgrace. The GOP could not even defeat a highly liberal Senator with ties to these same powerbrokers with a moderate Rep promising huge prop taxcuts in the most highly taxed state in the Union. I'm not sure this is a win for NJ, but is def a rebuff of the GOP.

The Governator is going down in flames only one year after GOP was talking about admending the Constitution to allow him to run for Pres in '08. He'll be lucky to survive his next state election.

VA too is a big win, and many indicators that the president brought down votes in a traditionally Red state. This is a shot to Bush's nuts, make no mistake. His policies will go no where and moderate/traditional Reps in Senate will rebel against him. His political capital is spent.

 

[phillyTIM]

True that! It also shows that Bush is now a LIABILITY. Things have caught up to him, and Bush & his Regime of goons are definately working their way onto being blacklisted.

Originally posted by: Sudheer AnneAlso, these wins for the Dems are meaningful because VA is a heavily Republican state. The Dems were able to beat a Republican candidate who had the support of Bush. The fact that Kaine won is symbolic because it also shows that Bush's support doesn't mean as much as it used to.

 

[Moonbeam]

Arnold shunned the Chimp like a skunk coat but a fat lot of good it did him. The reek is all over the party.

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: Genx87
lmao the news is pushing this story this morning. Minneapolis and St Paul are supposed to be referendums on Bush. The media made a big deal about Mayor Kelley getting the boot because he supported bush. afaik he is a democrats and got beat by an independent lmao.

So now democrats are so desperate they are claiming a victory when independents win lmao.

huh? What are you talking about? I don't live anywhere near Minnesota and I know that the mayor of St. Paul got ousted 2 to 1 by another Democrat.
Chris Coleman is a Democrat

Kelly is a good buddy of Sen. Norm Coleman and should have switched parties like Norm Coleman did. Still, if you think you can endorse GWB AND actively campaign with him in a city that went heavily for Kerry in every precinct then you deserve to lose. Don't shed a tear for Kelly though, GWB may appoint him to some regional FEMA position 😱

 

[TravisT]

I don't know why the right even fights with the left. The left continues to fight just to keep their head above water and not lose. It pretty well sums up how bad that a** kicking was a year ago when they start referring to this as a monumental victory. 😀

Regardless, I do not vote party either. In fact, if the Democrats would bring in a moderate in as a Presidential candidate, i would certainly consider it. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. And the exact same a** kicking will reoccur again i'd imagine.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: chowderhead

Originally posted by: Genx87
lmao the news is pushing this story this morning. Minneapolis and St Paul are supposed to be referendums on Bush. The media made a big deal about Mayor Kelley getting the boot because he supported bush. afaik he is a democrats and got beat by an independent lmao.

So now democrats are so desperate they are claiming a victory when independents win lmao.

huh? What are you talking about? I don't live anywhere near Minnesota and I know that the mayor of St. Paul got ousted 2 to 1 by another Democrat.
Chris Coleman is a Democrat

Kelly is a good buddy of Sen. Norm Coleman and should have switched parties like Norm Coleman did. Still, if you think you can endorse GWB AND actively campaign with him in a city that went heavily for Kerry in every precinct then you deserve to lose. Don't shed a tear for Kelly though, GWB may appoint him to some regional FEMA position 😱

Local channels showed coleman as an independent. Personally I dont follow the races much since I dont live within 30 miles of either city.

 

[Train]

I'll let you guys in on a little secret....

I voted for a Dem yesterday!

omg the sky is falling, noooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Heh, same Dem I voted for twice in the 90's

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: Train
I'll let you guys in on a little secret....

I voted for a Dem yesterday!

omg the sky is falling, noooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Heh, same Dem I voted for twice in the 90's

County dog catcher? :laugh:

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: zendari
Haha, so they didn't even make status quo!

Haha, still living in a very BLUE state there Zen? Yep. Thankfully your fellow NJ aren't backwards thinkers. :laugh:

Something like that I suppose. But NJ has progressed greatly since the 2000 election in the last few years. You can attribute that to the Democrat homosexual exgovernor.

Better hope Corzine isn't a homo and NJ will be very RED in a flash.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

This isn't being realistic. Bush can out visibly in support of Kilgore at the last moment in a very close race, and Kilgore still lost. In fact, the polls before Bush came out in support showed the election closer than it actually was, suggesting Bush HURT Kilgore by visably coming out in support of him. This is definately going to have at least somewhat of a negative effect on Bush, and it may make it harder to find top Republican candidates willing to make a try for the possible contestible seats in the elections next midterm given what the results of the governer's race may indicate about current political conditions in the state.

Well, Clinton killed Gore when he supported his nomination.

Uuuhhhhmmmmm......Gore actually WON the popular vote. Nice try though.

And that, like most liberal wet dreams, didn't count for chit!

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

This isn't being realistic. Bush can out visibly in support of Kilgore at the last moment in a very close race, and Kilgore still lost. In fact, the polls before Bush came out in support showed the election closer than it actually was, suggesting Bush HURT Kilgore by visably coming out in support of him. This is definately going to have at least somewhat of a negative effect on Bush, and it may make it harder to find top Republican candidates willing to make a try for the possible contestible seats in the elections next midterm given what the results of the governer's race may indicate about current political conditions in the state.

Well, Clinton killed Gore when he supported his nomination.

Uuuhhhhmmmmm......Gore actually WON the popular vote. Nice try though.

Yeah, and Scalia installed Bush. Apparently some Americans have no clue about even recent history.

I'd agree with that. We try to tell you liberals, but you never listen!