Corzine Wins, Kaine Wins, Democrats Win.

[totalcommand]

The Resurgents of the LIBERALS has started! Beware you conservatives.

Even the flaming liberal candidate for lt. gov. in Virginia garnered very very high numbers for below the Mason-Dixon line (she still lost however).

We have Kaine & Corzine in, and in 2006 we're coming for MORE.

edit: Bush lost even more by campaigning for the loser, Kilgore. Hahaha.

 

[her209]

There's a saying that goes: Don't count your chickens before all your eggs are cooked.

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

From one of the other threads on this.

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Both states had a Dem for a governor before. And they still have Dem governors. Wow. I wouldn't read too much into '06 about that.

Shhh. Don't burst their bubble just yet. Wait until they start foaming at the mouth and going on and on about how they've conquered the world.

:laugh:

 

[raildogg]

For a secord I thought you said Kanye wins!

In other news, the Panthers win again!

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
From one of the other threads on this.

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Both states had a Dem for a governor before. And they still have Dem governors. Wow. I wouldn't read too much into '06 about that.

Shhh. Don't burst their bubble just yet. Wait until they start foaming at the mouth and going on and on about how they've conquered the world.

:laugh:

Not a bad point for the libs to consider...now if only the conservatives would listen as well. They've been foaming and going on for almost a year now.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: her209
There's a saying that goes: Don't count your chickens before all your eggs are cooked.

It wasn't chickens, we were making predictions. I predicted that Dems would win big this off-year, and win big next year also.

I win round 1.

As for the people say the election wins don't really matter cause they were Dems before, tell that to good old GWB, who came out in force to get Kilgore the win. Tell that to Kilgore himself, who used ridiculous smear tactics (like the Hitler thing), and STILL lost.

It's a double loss for the Repubs - for Bush and for Kilgore.

 

[zendari]

Um, both VA and NJ already held the governor seats before today. This is just status quo.

 

[bdude]

As ridiculous as the OP sounds, it is true that certain posters on this board have been stating over and over that the overall political trend will continue to be a conservative one. Looks like today it didn't come true.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: zendari
Um, both VA and NJ already held the governor seats before today. This is just status quo.

As for the people say the election wins don't really matter cause they were Dems before, tell that to good old GWB, who came out in force to get Kilgore the win. Tell that to Kilgore himself, who used ridiculous smear tactics (like the Hitler thing), and STILL lost.

It's a double loss for the Repubs - for Bush and for Kilgore.

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: zendari
Um, both VA and NJ already held the governor seats before today. This is just status quo.

As for the people say the election wins don't really matter cause they were Dems before, tell that to good old GWB, who came out in force to get Kilgore the win. Tell that to Kilgore himself, who used ridiculous smear tactics (like the Hitler thing), and STILL lost.

It's a double loss for the Repubs - for Bush and for Kilgore.

Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: zendari
Um, both VA and NJ already held the governor seats before today. This is just status quo.

As for the people say the election wins don't really matter cause they were Dems before, tell that to good old GWB, who came out in force to get Kilgore the win. Tell that to Kilgore himself, who used ridiculous smear tactics (like the Hitler thing), and STILL lost.

It's a double loss for the Repubs - for Bush and for Kilgore.

Kilgore didn't lose because of Bush, he lost because of himself. The Republicans won other seats in VA including LG and AG I believe.

But if it helps you sleep better at night....

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: zendari
Um, both VA and NJ already held the governor seats before today. This is just status quo.

As for the people say the election wins don't really matter cause they were Dems before, tell that to good old GWB, who came out in force to get Kilgore the win. Tell that to Kilgore himself, who used ridiculous smear tactics (like the Hitler thing), and STILL lost.

It's a double loss for the Repubs - for Bush and for Kilgore.

Kilgore didn't lose because of Bush, he lost because of himself. The Republicans won other seats in VA including LG and AG I believe.

But if it helps you sleep better at night....

I'm not even trying to spin it - Bush lost more political capital here.

FoxNews.com headline:

Kaine wins governor race in Va. despite Bush campaigning for opponent; Corzine wins in New Jersey

Take it from your buddies dude...

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: zendari
Um, both VA and NJ already held the governor seats before today. This is just status quo.

Wasn't there a thread just a week ago about how miserable the citizens of NJ were. I guess they just love bad governance!

 

[Train]

What about the Mayor of "Americas Most Liberal City" ?

I hear he might be the first incumbent to lose in 20 some years...

Edit: err 40 some years

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

This isn't being realistic. Bush can out visibly in support of Kilgore at the last moment in a very close race, and Kilgore still lost. In fact, the polls before Bush came out in support showed the election closer than it actually was, suggesting Bush HURT Kilgore by visably coming out in support of him. This is definately going to have at least somewhat of a negative effect on Bush, and it may make it harder to find top Republican candidates willing to make a try for the possible contestible seats in the elections next midterm given what the results of the governer's race may indicate about current political conditions in the state.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Take it from your buddies dude...

Your not going to get anywhere with that, Zendari thinks foxnews is too liberal

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: her209
There's a saying that goes: Don't count your chickens before all your eggs are cooked.

IF they had taken republican govenor seats there might cause for concern.

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

This isn't being realistic. Bush can out visibly in support of Kilgore at the last moment in a very close race, and Kilgore still lost. In fact, the polls before Bush came out in support showed the election closer than it actually was, suggesting Bush HURT Kilgore by visably coming out in support of him. This is definately going to have at least somewhat of a negative effect on Bush, and it may make it harder to find top Republican candidates willing to make a try for the possible contestible seats in the elections next midterm given what the results of the governer's race may indicate about current political conditions in the state.

I'm sure in the mind of a Liberal that's how it looks. The candidate is either good or bad in the voter's eye. Kilgore wasn't as good, or atleast not good enough to change the status quo.

Nothing was gained by the GOP in those 2 elections, but no positions were lost either since they both had democrats there to begin with. keep overstating things if you want though.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

This isn't being realistic. Bush can out visibly in support of Kilgore at the last moment in a very close race, and Kilgore still lost. In fact, the polls before Bush came out in support showed the election closer than it actually was, suggesting Bush HURT Kilgore by visably coming out in support of him. This is definately going to have at least somewhat of a negative effect on Bush, and it may make it harder to find top Republican candidates willing to make a try for the possible contestible seats in the elections next midterm given what the results of the governer's race may indicate about current political conditions in the state.

I'm sure in the mind of a Liberal that's how it looks. The candidate is either good or bad in the voter's eye. Kilgore wasn't as good, or atleast not good enough to change the status quo.

Nothing was gained by the GOP in those 2 elections, but no positions were lost either since they both had democrats there to begin with. keep overstating things if you want though.

In the mind of FoxNews too!

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: totalcommand
The Resurgents of the LIBERALS has started! Beware you conservatives.

Even the flaming liberal candidate for lt. gov. in Virginia garnered very very high numbers for below the Mason-Dixon line (she still lost however).

We have Kaine & Corzine in, and in 2006 we're coming for MORE.

edit: Bush lost even more by campaigning for the loser, Kilgore. Hahaha.

I guess I can see why the Democrats consider this a win. Keeping the status quo is a victory for them, the last severals years they have been steadily losing power and elections, at least they can hold on to the fact that they didn't lose their governorships too.

However, Republicans do control the governorship of the four most populated states: California, New York, Texas and Flordia.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

This isn't being realistic. Bush can out visibly in support of Kilgore at the last moment in a very close race, and Kilgore still lost. In fact, the polls before Bush came out in support showed the election closer than it actually was, suggesting Bush HURT Kilgore by visably coming out in support of him. This is definately going to have at least somewhat of a negative effect on Bush, and it may make it harder to find top Republican candidates willing to make a try for the possible contestible seats in the elections next midterm given what the results of the governer's race may indicate about current political conditions in the state.

Well, Clinton killed Gore when he supported his nomination.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Yeah, it's a loss for Kilgore, but not for Bush. It would have been nice to pick up a pair of Governor's mansions but they weren't lost either. You are obviously overstating what Kilgore's loss means. It will have zero effect on Bush.

This isn't being realistic. Bush can out visibly in support of Kilgore at the last moment in a very close race, and Kilgore still lost. In fact, the polls before Bush came out in support showed the election closer than it actually was, suggesting Bush HURT Kilgore by visably coming out in support of him. This is definately going to have at least somewhat of a negative effect on Bush, and it may make it harder to find top Republican candidates willing to make a try for the possible contestible seats in the elections next midterm given what the results of the governer's race may indicate about current political conditions in the state.

I'm sure in the mind of a Liberal that's how it looks. The candidate is either good or bad in the voter's eye. Kilgore wasn't as good, or atleast not good enough to change the status quo.

Nothing was gained by the GOP in those 2 elections, but no positions were lost either since they both had democrats there to begin with. keep overstating things if you want though.

It is not officially overstating in my book until someone suggests Kaine has a mandate

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: totalcommand
The Resurgents of the LIBERALS has started! Beware you conservatives.

Even the flaming liberal candidate for lt. gov. in Virginia garnered very very high numbers for below the Mason-Dixon line (she still lost however).

We have Kaine & Corzine in, and in 2006 we're coming for MORE.

edit: Bush lost even more by campaigning for the loser, Kilgore. Hahaha.

I guess I can see why the Democrats consider this a win. Keeping the status quo is a victory for them, the last severals years they have been steadily losing power and elections, at least they can hold on to the fact that they didn't lose their governorships too.

However, Republicans do control the governorship of the four most populated states: California, New York, Texas and Flordia.

Yeah, I guess stopping the backslide(even momentarily) is "progress" for them

 

[wiin]

It is good that republican did not win in virginia cuz we would be hearing about stolen election again Election Night Deja Vu for Paranoid Dems or worst rioting lik in France

With early reports showing Republican Jerry Kilgore leading Democrat Tim Kaine in the Virginia governor's race, Democrats were all set to cry foul.

Reports claiming that there were problems with Virginia's touch-screen voting machines had conspiracy theorists running wild at lefty web sites like Democratic Underground and the Daily Kos.

In what sounded like the 2005 version of Palm Beach County's butterfly ballot, the computerized machines were said to be registering votes for Kilgore that were intended for Kaine.

"Looks to me like another stolen election," complained one DU poster. "Damn Virginia!!!! Take to the Streets...tear down the g-d - - -n courthouse," railed another.

Of course, that was before their candidate won the race.
So far, Republicans have yet to threaten to "tear down the courthouse" over Virginia's supposedly "rigged" voting machines.

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: Condor
Well, Clinton killed Gore when he supported his nomination.

This is HIGHLY debatable. Clinton would have easily been reelected if he could have run for a third term, its just conservatives who actually hate him.