Core I3 @ 4.8Ghz Vs X4 965 @ 3.8Ghz

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Munky

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Why use medium settings for Farcry2? If you want to stress the cpu without being gpu-limited, use all the high cpu settings, like physics and special effects detail, but turn down the resolution and shader settings.
 

quadomatic

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Amd's crap tho. :D

Even better for a cheap deal, Athlon X2 5000+, $55 shipped at eWiz, unlock to Phenom FX-5000 (4 core deneb, 6MB L3 cache) using hybrid ACC on motherboard ($80 mobo?) and oc to 3.2Ghz! I got it and it was well worth it.

...but I'll need to pick up some better ram, the garbage 667mhz DDR2 ram I'm using is holding my oc back a LOT.
 

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I am guessing tha the i5-650 would fall somewhere between this chip and an i5-750?
If so, the i5-650 would be the fastest dual-core currently, or am I wrong?
 

Hey Zeus

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I am guessing tha the i5-650 would fall somewhere between this chip and an i5-750?
If so, the i5-650 would be the fastest dual-core currently, or am I wrong?

All the clarkdale's Overclock the same. With the I5's its just easier. Best clarkdale to get is the 124 dollar I3 530 because it can hit 5Ghz quite easily on air
 

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My only observation is that the I3@$150+$200 mobo (Isn't that the prices of what you used?) is $350 total (approx) and the 965 is $200+$80 motherboard and still beats it big time. Based on $/performance, the 965 clearly is a winner in this scenario.

Have we see gaming benchmarks of Core i3 (Overclocked) vs Phenom II x4 (Overclocked) yet?

P.S. P55 mainboards can be had for less than $200. (Not to mention the Fry's/microcenter deals floating around.)
 

Markfw

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Have we see gaming benchmarks of Core i3 (Overclocked) vs Phenom II x4 (Overclocked) yet?

P.S. P55 mainboards can be had for less than $200. (Not to mention the Fry's/microcenter deals floating around.)

Yes, but the 4.8 ghz OC of Hey Zues requires a $250 for 300 mobo. You can get a 3.8 out of a 965 on a $80 mobo (I did)

As for the overclocked benches, we will see, but I bet they are very close.
 

Hey Zeus

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Yes, but the 4.8 ghz OC of Hey Zues requires a $250 for 300 mobo. You can get a 3.8 out of a 965 on a $80 mobo (I did)

As for the overclocked benches, we will see, but I bet they are very close.

Not true mark. There was a review of a 99 dollar H55 board that the reviewer hit 4.6Ghz quite easily on. The clarkdale is as easy to overclock as the Bloomfield's
 

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Lifer
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Not true mark. There was a review of a 99 dollar H55 board that the reviewer hit 4.6Ghz quite easily on. The clarkdale is as easy to overclock as the Bloomfield's

Not to mention Core i3 is $99.99 at Microcenter.

I guess Intel wants to push this CPU instead of Core i5 750 (which got bumped to $189.99 at MC- in store pick up only)
 

Markfw

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Not true mark. There was a review of a 99 dollar H55 board that the reviewer hit 4.6Ghz quite easily on. The clarkdale is as easy to overclock as the Bloomfield's

First, your motherboard (what we have been discussing ) IS an exspensive board, I have no data on a cheap motherboard that is a verified OC, and stable.

Second (per the post below yours), most of the world, including me, does not have access to a microcenter. Its $145 at newegg for your 540.
 
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Not to mention Core i3 is $99.99 at Microcenter.

I guess Intel wants to push this CPU instead of Core i5 750 (which got bumped to $189.99 at MC- in store pick up only)

I still like having 4 cores. Spend $110, get the Ph2 X3 720BE, and unlock & overclock.
And support the underdog, while you're at it.
 

grimpr

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Hear,hear! Cores for everybody.

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Darnit, I really don't need to upgrade, but the thought of having 6 cores is really exciting.
What would I use them for? I have no idea.
 

grimpr

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Ofcourse not buddy, they are just a market reaction from AMD for capturing some low quads as hostage, such as the i5 750, in pure multithreaded/scalable apps and *propably* some next gen dx11 engines/games. They would be in good use for those folks using apps that chew cores for breakfast, rest for sure.
 

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Guys - Zeus is OCing a dual-core, not a quad-core. He could probably use any sub $99 P55 board (i.e. anything with 4+2 phases) and get just as good an OC.
So while I don't like the jacked price of the 750, Intel made a good strategic move. Pay $99+$99 for a Nehalem dual-core with HT, or pay the extra $90 and get a true quad-core. Either way you're still under $300.

And checking both MC and ZZF, the 720BE price was increased to $119. Odd how this was timed when the $149 750 deal when extinct. Really feel sorry for guys who missed out on it.
 
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Markfw

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Guys - Zeus is OCing a dual-core, not a quad-core. He could probably use any sub $99 P55 board (i.e. anything with 4+2 phases) and get just as good an OC.
So while I don't like the jacked price of the 750, Intel made a good strategic move. Pay $99+$99 for a Nehalem dual-core with HT, or pay the extra $90 and get a true quad-core. Either way you're still under $300.

And checking both MC and ZZF, the 720BE price was increased to $119. Odd how this was timed when the $149 750 deal when extinct. Really feel sorry for guys who missed out on it.
First, note the thread title. Yes we all know its dual-core WITH HT, vs quad.

Second, please stop quoting MC prices like we can all buy there. I have seen way too many people (me included) that are nowhere close to a MC. Its $145, and not eveybody can get to newegg, but it seems to be close to the average worldwide.
 

mav451

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My point is that dual-cores don't need high-end (8 or 12 phase) PWM's to OC well. Sure Zeus went all out buying an eVGA FTW board, but my point is that you don't have to. I made that mistake when I "overbought" my DFI LT P35 (8phase digital) to pair with a e8400. That was the last time my mobo cost more than my CPU. The DK P35, with only 4 phases, was just as successful on air OCs, and was at least $50 less.

Again my point is OCing a dual-core can be done on cheaper, 4+2 phase mobos. That's all.
 

JMapleton

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Since I got the prices from newegg, and the benchmarks from this thread (that no one has argued) how do you get this ?

I don't take kindly to comments like this that have no foundation.

An i3-530 would preform nearly as well with a $100 mobo than with the $200, thus, in the end, making it a better deal. Furthermore, the 530 is $125, not 150.

Giving you a total of $225.
 

Markfw

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An i3-530 would preform nearly as well with a $100 mobo than with the $200, thus, in the end, making it a better deal. Furthermore, the 530 is $125, not 150.

Giving you a total of $225.
He has an I3 540, not a 530. And until I see the same OC on a $100 mobo, I do not need to believe it. I know it makes a BIG different in C2D>C2Q on a cheap mobo, and HT can be very demanding.
 

Hey Zeus

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I didn't buy this board just for a Clarkdale. I bought this board for a nice 32nm Quad and Sandy Bridge
 

Markfw

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I didn't buy this board just for a Clarkdale. I bought this board for a nice 32nm Quad and Sandy Bridge
I know.... Some people think that a 530 will OC like a 540 (maybe) and a $200 mobo will OC like $100 (rarely)
 

Markfw

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Mark,

When i get paid i'll pick up an uber cheap 1156 board to test :)
Your comment before speaks volumes...Why else would you get a good board, instead of a cheap one. I think we are both saying the same thing.