Core 2 Price cuts coming Q207

[JonnyBlaze]

Originally posted by: Duvie
The big issue is the fact out IO subsystems are too low....I have proven I cannot use 100% of my 4 cores in some apps simply cause the cpu has to wait for the HDD to get its part done...It is only going to get worse until we see better drives. Therefore other then specific number crunching apps I think AMD's claim is likley very misleading and like I stated PR BS

15k scsi is your friend



its also you wallets enemy.

 

[bigsnyder]

When are these E6320s and E6420s being launched? I realize the price chart is not good
for another few months, but product roadmaps don't always line up with new price charts.

EDIT: Partially answered already, I am assuming Q2.

 

[MedicalEntropy]

Wish memory had price cuts too, but nooo. It's the only thing stopping me from buying a C2D system.

 

[Avalon]

Are the E6300 and E6400 being canceled as well, in favor or 4MB varieties?

The E6420 is going to be one sweet chip, with a decent multiplier and the extra cache for that price. The E4300 looks outstanding. Good multiplier, and insane price.

 

[OcHungry]

All your hypothesis and reasoning?s are wrong why Intel cutting prices so low. Even if K8L is going to beat C2D, it does not justify the price cut because Intel would not know what k8L prices will be. The K8L prices will be higher than C2D if it is better performer than Intel's counterpart. Why AMD would sell a CPU cheaper if it performs better? No reason what so ever.
Now the bitter reality for this drastic price cut by Intel is to DELY BK a few months in hope of surviving THE BK. It's not going to happen. Intel will BK by end of 07.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: OcHungry
All your hypothesis and reasoning?s are wrong why Intel cutting prices so low. Even if K8L is going to beat C2D, it does not justify the price cut because Intel would not know what k8L prices will be. The K8L prices will be higher than C2D if it is better performer than Intel's counterpart. Why AMD would sell a CPU cheaper if it performs better? No reason what so ever.
Now the bitter reality for this drastic price cut by Intel is to DELY BK a few months in hope of surviving THE BK. It's not going to happen. Intel will BK by end of 07.

"Why AMD would sell a CPU cheaper if it performs better? No reason what so ever."
Actually, Intel is doing exactly that with C2D. $300 E6600 > $600 FX-62. Go figure.

As for Intel BK by end of 07? Hehe... OK... cool.

 

[TuxDave]

BK = ?

 

[Roguestar]

Originally posted by: TuxDave
BK = ?

Who knows, it's just OcHungry babbling again. I thought he was banned when we had two weeks of peace and quiet but I guess he must have just been busy overclocking Opterons to 4Ghz :roll:

I'm interested in the E6320 for $163. 4Mb cache on a Core 2 Duo for ~ £85? Hell yes please.

 

[OcHungry]

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: OcHungry
All your hypothesis and reasoning?s are wrong why Intel cutting prices so low. Even if K8L is going to beat C2D, it does not justify the price cut because Intel would not know what k8L prices will be. The K8L prices will be higher than C2D if it is better performer than Intel's counterpart. Why AMD would sell a CPU cheaper if it performs better? No reason what so ever.
Now the bitter reality for this drastic price cut by Intel is to DELY BK a few months in hope of surviving THE BK. It's not going to happen. Intel will BK by end of 07.

"Why AMD would sell a CPU cheaper if it performs better? No reason what so ever."
Actually, Intel is doing exactly that with C2D. $300 E6600 > $600 FX-62. Go figure.

As for Intel BK by end of 07? Hehe... OK... cool.

You just proved Intel's lacking brain... another reason why BK sooner than expected.
Any Highschool graduate who runs a business knows that you dont sell a product cheaper than the competetion when his is better. Furthermore, Any 9 grader wh's running his business knows he needs to sell his existing pile of inventory before announicing new product 6 months ahead of its time that is also going to amount to 20% of total production at the time of that product entering the market. And you wonder why Intel should not BK?

 

[Accord99]

Originally posted by: OcHungry

You just proved Intel's lacking brain... another reason why BK sooner than expected.
Any Highschool graduate who runs a business knows that you dont sell a product cheaper than the competetion when his is better.

But Intel also knows you have to cover a wide range of pricing points to sell to the whole market.

Furthermore, Any 9 grader wh's running his business knows he needs to sell his existing pile of inventory before announicing new product 6 months ahead of its time that is also going to amount to 20% of total production at the time of that product entering the market.

Perhaps, but it was a calculated risk to regain mindshare and momentum. Ultimately, not much different than the car industry where everybody knows newer, better models are introduced every 5 years or so and incentives are needed to move the last year of the old model.

And you wonder why Intel should not BK?

$6 billion in profits in their worst year in a long time suggest otherwise.

 

[Mucker]

E6600 :thumbsup: Spring upgrade looking cheaper all the time......

 

[Roguestar]

Originally posted by: OcHungry
blah blah blah blah blah

Do you ever get tired?

 

[Xvys]

When are these E6320s and E6420s being launched?

I believe they said Q2 next year.

 

[coldpower27]

The E6300 and E6400 will continue alongside the E6320 and E6420, however they will officially be identical in price. Unofficially I expect them to drop a little.

Now I kinda understand why Intel deactivated the LV2 caches on Conroe on the lower SKU's to make room for a possible "Spring refresh" the lower end models get 4MB caches, the upper end models get a 1.33GHZ FSB. This also provides more a seperation between the E6xxx and E4xxx series with the bulk majority of E6xxx having 4MB of cache.

 

[NoobyDoo]

There's a $450 Core 2 Quad Q6400 coming too.

link

Core 2 Quad Q6400 remains in Kentsfield core like others released models. Standards for this model include: 65nm manufacturing process, LGA 775 package, clock speed at 2.13Ghz, 1066MHz FSB, and 4MB x 2 L2 Cache. Core 2 Quad Q6400 also support for Intel ViiV, VT, EIST, 64 and Execute Disable Bit. Combining the performance provided and the low price, this would be a great rival for AMD?s AM2+ processors.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: Duvie
The big issue is the fact out IO subsystems are too low....I have proven I cannot use 100% of my 4 cores in some apps simply cause the cpu has to wait for the HDD to get its part done...It is only going to get worse until we see better drives. Therefore other then specific number crunching apps I think AMD's claim is likley very misleading and like I stated PR BS

Duvie, what kind of drives are you using on your test platforms? I would guess not the 150 GB Raptors... are they normal SATA 7200 RPM drives?

 

[Sniper82]

Figures on the price cuts. I just had upgraded to a e6300 to. Owell at least I don't have to wait 4+ months and can enjoy my new fast system now. I hope AMD's new chip ain't much/any faster . I don't want to upgrade again for at least a year and a half.

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: Sniper82
Figures on the price cuts. I just had upgraded to a e6300 to. Owell at least I don't have to wait 4+ months and can enjoy my new fast system now. I hope AMD's new chip ain't much/any faster . I don't want to upgrade again for at least a year and a half.

Your not losing out on too much, just 2MB of LV2 and 20USD price cut.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: TuxDave
BK = ?

Burger King!

Intel is having a big party at Burger King at the end of next year...

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: OcHungry

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: OcHungry
All your hypothesis and reasoning?s are wrong why Intel cutting prices so low. Even if K8L is going to beat C2D, it does not justify the price cut because Intel would not know what k8L prices will be. The K8L prices will be higher than C2D if it is better performer than Intel's counterpart. Why AMD would sell a CPU cheaper if it performs better? No reason what so ever.
Now the bitter reality for this drastic price cut by Intel is to DELY BK a few months in hope of surviving THE BK. It's not going to happen. Intel will BK by end of 07.

"Why AMD would sell a CPU cheaper if it performs better? No reason what so ever."
Actually, Intel is doing exactly that with C2D. $300 E6600 > $600 FX-62. Go figure.

As for Intel BK by end of 07? Hehe... OK... cool.

You just proved Intel's lacking brain... another reason why BK sooner than expected.
Any Highschool graduate who runs a business knows that you dont sell a product cheaper than the competetion when his is better. Furthermore, Any 9 grader wh's running his business knows he needs to sell his existing pile of inventory before announicing new product 6 months ahead of its time that is also going to amount to 20% of total production at the time of that product entering the market. And you wonder why Intel should not BK?

I'm surprised Intel hasn't employed you to save their sinking ship!

So you predicting Intel will lose billions of dollars per quarter for the next year, is that correct?

 

[nyker96]

I think if these prices comes through, AMD better have some killer product in 2007 to even stay alive.

 

[nycdude]

Originally posted by: mamisano
Yeah, looks like I'll make the plunge and get either a 6420 or 6600 around that time... I want to upgrade from my X2-3800 and C2D seems the way to go.

same here but from a 165 rig.

 

[Duvie]

I will take 2 of those Q6400's, but heck Q3???????? Who knows what I will have by then. I could be building a quad AMD setup then or a 4x4 setup with quads....who knows that is almost a year away....way too far out. I wont be waiting...

 

[Sniper82]

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: Sniper82
Figures on the price cuts. I just had upgraded to a e6300 to. Owell at least I don't have to wait 4+ months and can enjoy my new fast system now. I hope AMD's new chip ain't much/any faster . I don't want to upgrade again for at least a year and a half.

Your not losing out on too much, just 2MB of LV2 and 20USD price cut.

what kinda performance difference would there be between 1mb and 2mb?

 

[AkumaX]

are the E4XXX even out on market yet?
there's got to be a reason why Intel would release low fsb procs w/ higher mults. Maybe they'll speedbin them