Cordless drills suck...

[Herr Kutz]

Hmmm, I didn't even notice that it was the same OP. That is a very good question, I'm going to assume yes.

Maybe not safe for work but no real offending pics in the item

Is it better to use a weak cordless drill or a powerful wired drill with this attachment?

 

[lxskllr]

I have a bit brace. Don't use it much cause I don't usually have to make big holes, but I also have a hand drill I use for just about anything that doesn't require a drill press. The holes I've made with my hand drill outnumber my powered holes by orders of magnitude. Ranking is hand drill-awl in my Swiss army knife-drill press-powered drill.

 

[Darwin333]

Is it better to use a weak cordless drill or a powerful wired drill with this attachment?

While I don't have any personal experience, I'd assume that you'd want something with variable speed. You also probably want to have the misses practice with it a bit first, you don't want her to have a huge dildo attached to a reciprocating saw in your rear and just yank the trigger all the way instead of building the speed up. Or maybe you do, whatever floats your boat bud, I don't judge.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Is it better to use a weak cordless drill or a powerful wired drill with this attachment?

I'd go for something like a Bosch Bulldog. It has rotary, hammer and rotary hammer modes, for your pleasure. Also an extra handle for better grip, a must.

 

[rh71]

stop being cheap and buy more batteries

I have 2. Problem is it literally takes all night to charge 1. And it fades quick with non-use.

I can't remember the last time I said to myself 2 days before deciding to mow, hey I better charge those edge trimmer batteries!

 

[Red Squirrel]

On sorta similar subject it would be nice if they made a battery that you can pop the cover off and have full access to the individual 18650 cells. Instead of buying whole new battery packs as spares you could just buy a bunch of 18650's and a good charger for them. Or at very least, it would be nice if all the tool manufacturers agreed upon a battery pack standard so they are all interchangeable. Have a couple different indent/pinout/size for the different voltages so you can't accidentally mix them up, and that's it. This would most likely lead to availability of cheaper battery packs. But too bad this is just a pipe dream. IP laws and crap are probably the reason why this can't happen. One manufacturer patents a specific design so nobody else can do it. I don't know if that's actually the case though, but I could easily see it.

 

[shanto52]

I really like my 18V Dewalt stuff. I've had the oldest tool ("Sawzall") for about three years now, and I've shared the one battery that came with that one across the three tools I now have. I'm sorta anxious to wear it out so I can justify getting a Li-Ion battery, but it barely seems like it's degraded at all despite the beating I've given it.

 

[BoomerD]

Is it better to use a weak cordless drill or a powerful wired drill with this attachment?

Fckr...now I have that in my Amazon search history...

 

[bruceb]

My DeWalt Cordless Drill was a free one from my old job at one of my work anniversary points. It is a 12V unit and is Nicad, not Lithium Ion ... They do not make a 12V Lithium Ion pack for that old style drill. Other than that it does the job just fine. And some of the battery packs for it (with the yellow bottoms) have screws so you can get inside them. The older all black ones, you can not open. My drill uses the DC9071 packs .. I think the OE was Ni Cad newer replacement are Ni Mh type which has longer run time.

 

[Muse]

I have 2. Problem is it literally takes all night to charge 1. And it fades quick with non-use.

I can't remember the last time I said to myself 2 days before deciding to mow, hey I better charge those edge trimmer batteries!

My NiCad and NiMH power tool batteries have always driven me nuts. I don't use the tools enough ... Seems like over 1/2 the time I reach for them, the batteries are depleted to the extent I don't get much if any use from them and I have to reach for spare batteries and hope they have a reasonable charge, and frequently those need goosing too. I'm thrilled with my Lithium-ion powered Porter Cable set I got a couple years or more ago. The self-discharge rate seems negligible. Don't know if it is, but seems like I can reach for the drill/driver many many times and have no problem in spite of not having recharged or swapped out the battery. Besides, the battery is much lighter. I still have my Dewalt drills but only reach for them for those rare jobs when it's convenient to have several drills (i.e. several different bits required to do the job and alternation frequent).

 

[mindless1]

^ Any time I want to use a NiCd powered tool I just assume I'll need to charge it for at least 1/2 hour ahead of time, especially now that they mostly sit idle due to my having Li-Ion powered tools, except for a flashlight as mentioned below.

DeWalt Cordless Drill... 12V unit and is Nicad... battery packs for it (with the yellow bottoms) have screws so you can get inside them. The older all black ones, you can not open.

Odd, I have a 14.4V Dewalt that's older than that, with the all black batteries, that have screws. I've rebuilt those packs twice but mainly because the kit I have came with a snakelight which I converted to LED and hasn't been bettered by Dewalt or anyone else, is great for awkward situations where you need to aim the light.

 

[bruceb]

Perhaps my old 12V XR packs were not real DeWalt units or they changed how the packs were closed at some point after mine were made. This drill of mine has to be over 12 years old.

 

[NoTine42]

That was actually the most amazing aspect of my 18v DeWalt Nicad ... they could sit for months and still be ready to use.
5+ years later and I need new batteries. I’ll need to double-check but I don’t think they have screws. (And >$100 for the new 20v nimh Max conversion kit is a tough sell when I just have a drill.)

 

[bruceb]

What is the part for the conversion kit ? Will it work on the older 12V tools that use the XR or XRP battery pack ?

 

[NoTine42]

What is the part for the conversion kit ? Will it work on the older 12V tools that use the XR or XRP battery pack ?

Sorry, This is what i’ve seen in stores, they are for 18v only, and work with most but not all 18v tools:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-...H=REC-_-irg_acc-1-_-206525714-_-206526033-_-N
(You can buy the converter only if you have the 20v Max batteries)

I did notice an eBay listing selling a 3-d printer DIY conversion kit where you supply the existing 12v nicad top that can use the new 12v nimh ... but I don’t have a clue if it’s legit.

 

[bruceb]

Well the DC9071 12V packs I have are NiMh ... they even come with a new charger as the rate for recharge is not the same as for the NiCad units ... I am not surprised about DeWalt not doing an 18V conversion for the older drill. You might lose a little motor life but not much.

 

[mindless1]

Perhaps my old 12V XR packs were not real DeWalt units or they changed how the packs were closed at some point after mine were made. This drill of mine has to be over 12 years old.

They probably changed them. My packs came with a DW991 drill, are DW9091 14.4V, "XR" not "XRP", originally around 1400mAh (2400mAh after I rebuilt them). The kit is probably close to 20 years old.

The original batteries did seem to self-discharge less than the Tenergy sub-c NiCd replacements I used, but part of that perception could be that at one time it was my primary use drill then when it was retired to secondary use, the length of time between uses increased.

You might find that using an 18V pack on a 12V drill burns up the motor controller transistor. That's a significant current increase. If it's exposed you might be able to upgrade it though it might need a larger heatsink slug too, or possibly just the heatsink improved.

 

[bruceb]

The DC9071 I have is 12V at 3.0AH .. they are not DeWalt OE but made by Maisone (from ebay at 1/3 the DeWalt cost) These are NiMh type batteries and are to be used with a DeWalt XRP compatible charger (the old XR charger, while it will fit, does not provide the proper charge voltage and current sensing to prevent overcharge)

 

[mindless1]

^ That's why I didn't switch to NiMH, didn't feel like buying a new charger too. At the time there were no sub-C low self discharge NiMH in the market so the benefit:cost ratio was low to switch over.

 

[Muse]

I hope to never buy another Black & Decker. So many problems with their stuff.

I bought a couple Skill cordless screwdrivers lately, very pleased. Li-on.

My Porter Cable cordless drill is nothing if not fabulous. Beats the tar out of the NiCD Dewalt junk I have.

 

[BoomerD]

I hope to never buy another Black & Decker. So many problems with their stuff.

I bought a couple Skill cordless screwdrivers lately, very pleased. Li-on.

My Porter Cable cordless drill is nothing if not fabulous. Beats the tar out of the NiCD Dewalt junk I have.

B&D has been junk for decades. Porter-Cable isn't much better...and P-C is a subsidiary of Stanley/Black and Decker...(they also make Dewalt)

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[Ronstang]

Cordless drills are fine for many tasks, especially when portability and space are an issue. I use them most of the time but I have several corded drills for the tough jobs like drilling concrete or auger bits through a lot of wood.

I think your problem is also DeWalt....which is glorified Black and Decker and although I have some of their tools the only ones worth having have cords. DeWalt cordless tools have a cheap feel to me and their batteries are junk.

When it comes to cordless tool I prefer Bosch, their corded tools are hard to beat to....like my portable table saw. Bosch batteries are great and last a long time. The biggest mistake people make with batteries is storing them in the garage which means during the winter the cold really takes a toll on them. All my battery powered tools are stored in canvas zipper carry bags with all their accessories and in the house in one of my closets.

If you want cordless either get Bosch, Milwaukee, or Makita.

 

[Red Squirrel]

With lithium ion, cordless stuff has come a long way. Even stuff that is traditionally gas powered. I even have a battery chainsaw now. I don't use a chainsaw often enough to justify a gas one and messing with mixing gas/oil etc only to have it sit most of the time.

I cut down this tree with it.



Well almost, this is where I finished:



The bar was not big enough for the trunk and that one major branch I decided to leave for an arborist, it was more sketchy to do than it looks in the pic. In theory though the rest of the tree could have been done with a slightly bigger chainsaw for trunk and a bit more risk taking for that branch. I was using a Ryobi 18v which is on the lower end of the spectrum. I also did not realize how tough that wood was until I started to cut birch with the same chainsaw and it was going through like butter.

We are starting to see more yard tools in general switch to electric which is cool. They even have electric snowblowers now, they are not as good as the gas ones yet but mostly because they use lot of plastic components.

 

[Muse]

B&D has been junk for decades. Porter-Cable isn't much better...and P-C is a subsidiary of Stanley/Black and Decker...(they also make Dewalt)

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I've had good service from all my Porter Cable tools so far, a set of Drill and Driver cordless, a corded belt sander and corded Saw Boss 6" circle saw. No issues at all.

I see Craftsman falls under the Stanley/B&D umbrella. I've always seen high regard for Craftsman, virtually always.

 

[Fritzo]

I've had good luck with all of my Ryobi tools. Did a 10x10 deck with my cordless drill on one battery. Are you using referb batteries by chance? Those things are hit and miss.

MY favorite new Ryobi tool is the 1/2" impact wrench. Has 300ft/lbs of torque and can take off lug nuts in .5 seconds. Feel like I'm in NASCAR when I rotate tires or change my brakes