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jlee

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Is... is he using an impact driver to drill that hole?
Yep. I use impact drivers for nearly everything. They're amazing.

https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/compact-power-for-drilling-and-driving-3536597

Drilling with an Impact Driver:
Can you use an impact driver as a drill? Absolutely. Matter of fact, drilling clean holes with a spade bit is actually much easier with an impact driver. One of the problems with drilling large diameter holes (1/2-inch and wider, up to about 1-3/8 inches in diameter) with a spade bit is that the bit can pinch and get hung up in the hole. When the bit gets stuck in the hole with a cordless drill (or worse, a heavy-duty high-torque power drill), a rotation that the motor was applying to the drill bitand chuck is then transferred to the body of the drill, twisting the drill in the user's hands. In the best of cases, the drill will slip out of the operator's hands, or worse, the twisting drill's torque can be transferred to the operator. I can't tell you the number of times I've hurt my wrist from having a spade bit stick in the hole.
 

skull

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I think there's supposed to be a clutch in most modern drills that you can adjust so they don't deliver more torque than you want. It makes an awful noise, but it doesn't damage screws that way.

This is an impact not a drill, my high powered milwaukee impact has 3 speeds but this guys dewalt impact only has max.
 

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Even a $30 harbor freight corded hammer drill will outperform a cordless hybrid. They just aren't good for punching through concrete.

That being said, a cordless impact driver is one of the best inventions in the last 20 years. Those things are amazing.
 

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Even a $30 harbor freight corded hammer drill will outperform a cordless hybrid. They just aren't good for punching through concrete.

That being said, a cordless impact driver is one of the best inventions in the last 20 years. Those things are amazing.

Man I dunno, I've had Ridged and now Hatachi cordless and maybe not 100% the same power but uts pretty close.
 

mindless1

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Holes in concrete/brick/mortar are about the only time I ever use my corded hammer drill. Cordless all the way for anything else, or at least anything that doesn't lend itself to being thrown on a drill press.

Decades ago cordless weren't good for much more than smallish diameter holes or screws but they have come a long way since then. I don't have much use for a cordless impact driver though, maybe in tight spaces or production work like hanging drywall or factory assembly line, but otherwise my cordless hammer drill and impact wrench overlap enough to handle most jobs an impact driver would.

https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/compact-power-for-drilling-and-driving-3536597
One of the problems with drilling large diameter holes (1/2-inch and wider, up to about 1-3/8 inches in diameter) with a spade bit is that the bit can pinch and get hung up in the hole. When the bit gets stuck in the hole with a cordless drill (or worse, a heavy-duty high-torque power drill), a rotation that the motor was applying to the drill bit and chuck is then transferred to the body of the drill, twisting the drill in the user's hands.

If someone hurts their wrist from a spade bit stuck in a mere 1/2" hole, they need to put down the drill and use a manual screwdriver every now and then to build a little wrist strength.

As far as having a much larger spade bit get stuck and twist the drill and your wrist, that's what a 2nd/side handle is for.

Overall I suppose the point is, pick the right drill for the job. If one drill did everything then there wouldn't be so many of them.
 
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jlee

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Holes in concrete/brick/mortar are about the only time I ever use my corded hammer drill. Cordless all the way for anything else, or at least anything that doesn't lend itself to being thrown on a drill press.

Decades ago cordless weren't good for much more than smallish diameter holes or screws but they have come a long way since then. I don't have much use for a cordless impact driver though, maybe in tight spaces or production work like hanging drywall or factory assembly line, but otherwise my cordless hammer drill and impact wrench overlap enough to handle most jobs an impact driver would.



If someone hurts their wrist from a spade bit stuck in a mere 1/2" hole, they need to put down the drill and use a manual screwdriver every now and then to build a little wrist strength.

As far as having a much larger spade bit get stuck and twist the drill and your wrist, that's what a 2nd/side handle is for.

Overall I suppose the point is, pick the right drill for the job. If one drill did everything then there wouldn't be so many of them.

Or use an impact driver and don't worry about it. :D
 

Ryland

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I switched from Dewalt to Ridgid when it cost me the same as replacing my Dewalt batteries and have a lifetime warranty on the new tools. I havent had any issues with them yet.
 

clamum

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I'm not a tool guy and don't know anything about hammer drills, but I've been impressed with the cordless tools Wranglerstar features/tests on his channel (the latest one, a chainsaw, was quite surprising). I think he was traditionally a corded tool guy but I think he's been surprised and impressed with the cordless offerings. But I don't know if he's tried any hammer drills.
 

bigi

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My older Makita 18V can dislocate my wrist if I am not careful. One battery lasts forever even when drilling with 3/4 drill.

OP needs to learn how to properly wipe his ass.
 

Muse

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Corded, for maximum powah.
My older Makita 18V can dislocate my wrist if I am not careful. One battery lasts forever even when drilling with 3/4 drill.

OP needs to learn how to properly wipe his ass.
Very few people know how to properly wipe their ass.
But I'm not giving lessons.

I still have my first and only corded, a Craftsman 3/8" drive from the 1970s. I replaced it's keyed chuck recently with a keyless.

I remember my first cordless, my boss told me I had to buy one for the job I was hired to do (yeah, they didn't supply me with one, it was on me). It was a Skill and I wore that baby out over many years. I went to a Dewalt 9.6 volter, which I loved but the batteries don't hold a charge worth a damn. It's the NiCad batteries, they lose around 25% of their charge sitting around and I don't use them enough. The second Dewalt 9.6 volter I got was a POS compared to the first. [I still have those 2 Dewalt 9.6 volters and all 4 batteries that came with them, only use them if I need several devices and don't want to keep changing bits.]

I had meantime bought a Panasonic 12 volter that everybody raved about but I never got into it, would usually reach for a Dewalt. The Panny would lose it's charge as fast as the Dewalts did and I feel that it was a waste of money. I got rid of the Panny and its batteries.

Now I have a Porter-Cable PCL212IDC-2 12-Volt Max Compact Lithium-Ion 2-Tool Kit that I picked up cheap refurbished on Ebay and I absolutely love it. The batteries keep a charge great. I use mostly the driver/drill. If I need something tougher, e.g. drill into concrete, I go to the tool lending library a block away and borrow their Milwaukee corded hammer-drill. Did that last summer.
 
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Man I dunno, I've had Ridged and now Hatachi cordless and maybe not 100% the same power but uts pretty close.

Specifically when it comes to hammer drilling concrete, they get wore down in a hurry. And they just don't have the same punch to them that a dedicated hammer drill does. I keep a cheap hammer drill around just for that. Tile, concrete, ect. I was trying to set a flange for a toilet on a concrete slab and my Rigid cordless drill with hammer function just couldn't do the job.
 
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XavierMace

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How old is the cordless stuff some of you have used? I think sometimes people under-estimate how far battery tech has come which was a major limiting factor. Going from a NiCd with a 30a peak output to a Lithium with a 140a peak output makes a HUGE difference.
 

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I thought drills screwed, and Vac's sucked... :rolleyes:

no but seriously... are you sure your bits didnt suck?
I have a 20V MAX XR, and my brother keeps asking to borrow it, because its far better then his 18V Makita.
 

rh71

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Cordless anything really. I have a love/hate relationship with my cordless string trimmer. Can barely last the whole property most times, but so convenient.
 

Mayne

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I would love to show up at work and string a 50 foor cord to it lol. The op is obviously not a tradesperson.
 

Ns1

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Cordless anything really. I have a love/hate relationship with my cordless string trimmer. Can barely last the whole property most times, but so convenient.

stop being cheap and buy more batteries
 
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Ns1

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a real man has multiple chargers going at all times.

superchargers are awesome.


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XavierMace

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I went in on Ryobi One+ over fathers day using Home Depot's Buy 1 get one free promo. I've got 4 batteries, two chargers, and a variety of tools. So far they've been great. Can't say I've drilled concrete, but drilled quite a bit of wood and dry wall, inflated car tires, sanded a fence, and trimmed bushes so far. No complaints at all.
 
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