Copy Controlled - *some versions* of new radiohead CD

Pepsi90919

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anybody that has the new radiohead CD... is your copy like this? has the big copy controlled logo on the back? and when you try and rip it digitally the samples are all cluttered with white noise in random spots?

this cd does not conform to red book standards... all i want to do is to rip it on to my computer. :|

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Which reminds me. I paid for the new Radiohead Cd. The first thing I did was rip it & put it in my Rio player & cruise into town in my new Cdfreaks.com T-shirt with my headphones on, enjoying the new Cd. It is wrong for the record industry to prevent this or even attempt to prevent it. I paid. I love a *no moving parts audio portable such as my Rio Mp3 player.

So in effort to respect their attempt, we need to put these half-assed attempts at copy protection to shame. The way one of these copy protection schemes work (Cactus) is simply that they are adding bursts of noise into the music as actual data error. It isn?t real noise ? it?s a lot of error. The error correction in normal Cd players corrects these errors by interpolating the data using the data before & after the moment of error or noise.

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CoolTech

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yes, where there's a will theres a ripping group ready to rip that thing into shreds, lol, the industry will never stop this. The technology will be leaked by an insider or someone will crack it, as with satellite TV and previous futile attempts at CD copy protection
 

Vic

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Thanks for letting me know. I will NOT be getting that CD now (and I had planned to).

edit: and it's true -- what can be played, can be recorded. They can never stop that. But I have no desire to go through the hassle of lining it out, wav recording, etc.
 

dolph

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:| apparently you can't even play it on a computer. that is EXTREMELY uncool, my computer *is* my cd player. until a way is found to rip/play it, i will continue to enjoy the unmastered version on mp3 :p
 

thraxes

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Does smbdy have a yamaha F1 drive? supposedly it doesn't care shiznit about any music CD copy protection... perhaps give it a try.
 

loup garou

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I repeat: I own the CD, and have ripped it to both mp3 and wma and made a copy of it. There is no copyright protection on the disc I own.
 
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the last copy protected cd that made teh hype was broken by us in a few hrs.. we copied it.. now i wish i knew which one it was.. it was about 8 months back when we did it.. it was that cd that would supposedly crash Windows PC's and Mac's too if you try to play it on a computer, but it would work fine on a cdplayer, well so much for that.. we copied it..

It helps to have an OLDER cdrom to do these stuff :D
 

Pepsi90919

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it supposedly comes with a proprietary player on the disc.

i don't want a proprietary player. it seems it can only be played on applications that read the audio analog-style (which most don't anymore.)

i emailed EMI canada to see about a refund. this is ludicrous.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: werk
I repeat: I own the CD, and have ripped it to both mp3 and wma and made a copy of it. There is no copyright protection on the disc I own.

it appears that canadian and australian markets are being tested with the technology right now.
 

kranky

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The most effective way to stop this is for people to return them for refunds because they won't play. The retailers will quickly get tired of losing sales and will lobby to put an end to it. But just not buying it in the first place won't help.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: werk
I repeat: I own the CD, and have ripped it to both mp3 and wma and made a copy of it. There is no copyright protection on the disc I own.

it appears that canadian and australian markets are being tested with the technology right now.
That sucks....I noticed your profile said you were in Canada, but I didn't think they had different regional releases for CDs in Canada. Guess I was wrong.
 

DanJ

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The US version has ZERO copyright protection. I ripped it with EAC per usual.

THERE IS NO COPY PROTECTION ON THE US VERSION.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: werk
I repeat: I own the CD, and have ripped it to both mp3 and wma and made a copy of it. There is no copyright protection on the disc I own.

it appears that canadian and australian markets are being tested with the technology right now.
That sucks....I noticed your profile said you were in Canada, but I didn't think they had different regional releases for CDs in Canada. Guess I was wrong.

yeah they're all manufactured up here for our market. apparently they're going to try it on the US next. i dare them to. :p
 

loup garou

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Yeah, I really think you should put new *CANADIAN* Radiohead CD in your title, as US posters think this affects them.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
it supposedly comes with a proprietary player on the disc.

i don't want a proprietary player. it seems it can only be played on applications that read the audio analog-style (which most don't anymore.)

i emailed EMI canada to see about a refund. this is ludicrous.
Where did you buy it? If online, you should contact the online store's customer support and politely ask them why the description of the CD doesn't say it is copy-controlled.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: werk
Yeah, I really think you should put new *CANADIAN* Radiohead CD in your title, as US posters think this affects them.

only if US posters would do the same their way :p

nm i changed it.
 

MaxDepth

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By googlely my friend, that is terrible news. Radiohead CD that won't allow copying. because of the protection.


wow, that truly is a shame. if only someone out there knew the answer to this...
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: werk
Yeah, I really think you should put new *CANADIAN* Radiohead CD in your title, as US posters think this affects them.
It will next year if the canucks and aussies take it quietly.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
it supposedly comes with a proprietary player on the disc.

i don't want a proprietary player. it seems it can only be played on applications that read the audio analog-style (which most don't anymore.)

i emailed EMI canada to see about a refund. this is ludicrous.
Where did you buy it? If online, you should contact the online store's customer support and politely ask them why the description of the CD doesn't say it is copy-controlled.

i went to a retail chain and got it. the packaging has no physical 'compact disc digital audio' logos on it. on the back, there is "Copy Controlled" and little pictograms that seem to indicate that it can be played on "CD - DVD-V - DVD-A - SACD Players, PC MS Windows 95, Pentium 2 233MHz, 64 MB RAM+, Mac OS 8.6-9+CarbonLib & Mac OS X" and not on "Others". underneath is an email address "qc@emimusic.ca" and phone number "1-866-553-0220" which i should probably call.
 

Bootprint

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So this isn't the real CD, just a round piece of reflective plastic that you might be able to get music from.

Maybe I should contact EMI and ask when the CD is coming out...