Cops Taser Student Running Naked Through High School Cafeteria

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Greyd

Originally posted by: shoRunner

Originally posted by: Pegun
Wat kind of panzy students huddle in a corner in panic at the sight of a greased up naked guy? That would be hilarious! Where i came from the kid would get cheers the entire time.

exactly what i was thinking...its not like he had a gun or large samurai sword

Hindsight is 20/20. In the small amount of time you saw this guy appear, you're not gonna take the time to calmly look and examine every part of him and determine that he is not armed. He could be holding a small knife in his hand or a hypodermic needle. In reality people will just react to the situation, which is what they did

So therefore you should just tazer everyone for good measure, because you can't tell if any of them are armed, can you? In fact why not just fit everyone with collars so they don't even have to chase them to tazer them - they can just do it at will! Brilliant!

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: pontifex
i was watching a show on G4 called braintease or something like that. its a british sort of mythbusters type show. i happened to see part of one episode the other day where they had a bartender hooked up to some kind of device that gave him some jolts of electricity. when they were jolting him, he couldn't even hold the bottle of whatever alcohol he was trying to pour. as soon as they shocked him, he dropped the bottle.

i'm assuming these shocks were nothing compared to a taser's output either.

Brainiac, probably.

- M4H

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: pontifex
i was watching a show on G4 called braintease or something like that. its a british sort of mythbusters type show. i happened to see part of one episode the other day where they had a bartender hooked up to some kind of device that gave him some jolts of electricity. when they were jolting him, he couldn't even hold the bottle of whatever alcohol he was trying to pour. as soon as they shocked him, he dropped the bottle.

i'm assuming these shocks were nothing compared to a taser's output either.

Brainiac, probably.

- M4H

yeah, thats it. thanks.

 

[BooGiMaN]

for everyone claiming that the cops shouldnt have tazed him or police brutality and such...

how about this...the idiot shouldnt have put himself in a situation which would have led to the police taking action...

i tend to not break the law or put myself in a situation where i have to confront the police simply for the fact that i dont want this kind of stuff happening to me...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: pontifex

i was watching a show on G4 called braintease or something like that. its a british sort of mythbusters type show. i happened to see part of one episode the other day where they had a bartender hooked up to some kind of device that gave him some jolts of electricity. when they were jolting him, he couldn't even hold the bottle of whatever alcohol he was trying to pour. as soon as they shocked him, he dropped the bottle.

i'm assuming these shocks were nothing compared to a taser's output either.

We used to do that in college. My roommate had a device like that to prevent his muscles from atrophying after he was in an accident. It was pretty powerful too. You could get a chain of 10 guys and put one of the pads on the guys at each end, and it'd still cause pain. We had so much fun with that thing.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
for everyone claiming that the cops shouldnt have tazed him or police brutality and such...

how about this...the idiot shouldnt have put himself in a situation which would have led to the police taking action...

i tend to not break the law or put myself in a situation where i have to confront the police simply for the fact that i dont want this kind of stuff happening to me...

I avoid psycho axe murderers for the same reason - that doesn't make psycho axe murderers ok.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
for everyone claiming that the cops shouldnt have tazed him or police brutality and such...

how about this...the idiot shouldnt have put himself in a situation which would have led to the police taking action...

i tend to not break the law or put myself in a situation where i have to confront the police simply for the fact that i dont want this kind of stuff happening to me...

I avoid psycho axe murderers for the same reason - that doesn't make psycho axe murderers ok.

Huh? This comparison is invalid.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
for everyone claiming that the cops shouldnt have tazed him or police brutality and such...

how about this...the idiot shouldnt have put himself in a situation which would have led to the police taking action...

i tend to not break the law or put myself in a situation where i have to confront the police simply for the fact that i dont want this kind of stuff happening to me...

I avoid psycho axe murderers for the same reason - that doesn't make psycho axe murderers ok.

Huh? This comparison is invalid.

Why? He claims it's the student's fault for putting himself in contact with the cops - is it the victim's fault if he puts himself in contact with a axe murderer?

 

[Jeff7]

Fine, no Taser. Hit him in the crotch with one of these. The grease will let him slide easily along the ground as he's drug out of the room, still clutching himself in pain.

 

[musha shugyo]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: musha shugyo
a.) This situation could happen with the use of a taser. In fact, it could end up being even more expensive due to the research showing the dangers of tasers in individuals with "preexisting conditions."
b.) What of the insurance payout to the family when the officer gets shot by some guy with a concealed gun when trying to subdue him through the use of a taser.

You can play what-ifs all you want.

A.) Maybe people predisposed to dropping dead when they get tased should stop putting themselves in situations where they're going to get shocked. I have a good suggestion.

B.) You've obviously never been tased if you think you can reach for, draw, aim, and fire a gun with both darts in you.

- M4H

a.) I'm not arguing whether or not the people are at fault for putting themselves in the position to be tased, simply that they could sue with just as much, if not more, strength to their argument.
b.) I have been tased, in fact, and I know that it is practically impossible to move. However, consider a missed shot with a taser, the new taser-resistant material, or taser malfunction. All of those situations end poorly for the LEO, and result in a payout to the family.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
for everyone claiming that the cops shouldnt have tazed him or police brutality and such...

how about this...the idiot shouldnt have put himself in a situation which would have led to the police taking action...

i tend to not break the law or put myself in a situation where i have to confront the police simply for the fact that i dont want this kind of stuff happening to me...

I avoid psycho axe murderers for the same reason - that doesn't make psycho axe murderers ok.

Huh? This comparison is invalid.

Why? He claims it's the student's fault for putting himself in contact with the cops - is it the victim's fault if he puts himself in contact with a axe murderer?

in your case there is a victim being attacked for no reason. in this case there is a student willfully putting himself in harms way. cops dont attack for no reason. the guy gave him a reason. your analogy is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

 

[musha shugyo]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Atheus
Why? He claims it's the student's fault for putting himself in contact with the cops - is it the victim's fault if he puts himself in contact with a axe murderer?

in your case there is a victim being attacked for no reason. in this case there is a student willfully putting himself in harms way. cops dont attack for no reason. the guy gave him a reason. your analogy is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

The victim could have done something to provoke the psycho axe murder, such as call his analogy completely invalid and stupid. The student didn't willfully put himself in harms way, he was performing a harmless prank. I doubt he thought he would end up getting tased by a cop. Also, sometimes cops attack for no reason (they are people before the are police, and, so, infallible), so that statement is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

 

[Toastedlightly]

To all of you who think that a taser shouldn't have been used, name another thing that could've been done by the officer while maintaining the safety of those students in the lunch room.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: musha shugyo
The victim could have done something to provoke the psycho axe murder, such as call his analogy completely invalid and stupid. The student didn't willfully put himself in harms way, he was performing a harmless prank. I doubt he thought he would end up getting tased by a cop. Also, sometimes cops attack for no reason (they are people before the are police, and, so, infallible), so that statement is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

Guess that prank wasn't quite so harmless after all, was it? Did he really think he was just going to be allowed to run around until he decided he was done? Stupid is as stupid does.

Kinda shoots a hole in your argument there, bucky.

 

[trevor0323]

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
To all of you who think that a taser shouldn't have been used, name another thing that could've been done by the officer while maintaining the safety of those students in the lunch room.

Um lets see do your job the right way and just tackle the guy, I don't care if your greasy your telling me two cops cant tackle one guy down and put his face to the floor.

and btw in class yesterday our professor was just telling us how many departments on the West Coast have been putting restrictions on the use of tasers.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: musha shugyo

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Atheus
Why? He claims it's the student's fault for putting himself in contact with the cops - is it the victim's fault if he puts himself in contact with a axe murderer?

in your case there is a victim being attacked for no reason. in this case there is a student willfully putting himself in harms way. cops dont attack for no reason. the guy gave him a reason. your analogy is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

The victim could have done something to provoke the psycho axe murder, such as call his analogy completely invalid and stupid. The student didn't willfully put himself in harms way, he was performing a harmless prank. I doubt he thought he would end up getting tased by a cop. Also, sometimes cops attack for no reason (they are people before the are police, and, so, infallible), so that statement is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

Umm, learn to think about the consequences of your actions maybe? If I go and provoke an axe murderer to kill me and then get killed, will there be a bunch of bleeding hearts on the forums or a bunch of Darwin Awards being handed out? If you purposely go and break the law and then get disciplined, why does it stir up controversy? There was no abuse of power here.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: trevor0323

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
To all of you who think that a taser shouldn't have been used, name another thing that could've been done by the officer while maintaining the safety of those students in the lunch room.

Um lets see do your job the right way and just tackle the guy, I don't care if your greasy your telling me two cops cant tackle one guy down and put his face to the floor.

and btw in class yesterday our professor was just telling us how many departments on the West Coast have been putting restrictions on the use of tasers.

All departments have had restrictions on the use of tasers. The code hasn't changed. Even at UCLA the code hasn't changed.

Do you think you can pin a greased up, naked person? Hell, the UFC fighters can't even pin people who have blood on them much less a person with grapeseed oil covering his enitre naked body. Why do people on anandtech fail at context?

 

[musha shugyo]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: musha shugyo

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Atheus
Why? He claims it's the student's fault for putting himself in contact with the cops - is it the victim's fault if he puts himself in contact with a axe murderer?

in your case there is a victim being attacked for no reason. in this case there is a student willfully putting himself in harms way. cops dont attack for no reason. the guy gave him a reason. your analogy is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

The victim could have done something to provoke the psycho axe murder, such as call his analogy completely invalid and stupid. The student didn't willfully put himself in harms way, he was performing a harmless prank. I doubt he thought he would end up getting tased by a cop. Also, sometimes cops attack for no reason (they are people before the are police, and, so, infallible), so that statement is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

Umm, learn to think about the consequences of your actions maybe? If I go and provoke an axe murderer to kill me and then get killed, will there be a bunch of bleeding hearts on the forums or a bunch of Darwin Awards being handed out? If you purposely go and break the law and then get disciplined, why does it stir up controversy? There was no abuse of power here.

To liken the scenario to the situation that happened, try envisioning yourself provoking a random guy on the street who turns out to be a psycho axe murderer. You didn't know you were provoking someone who would kill you, much like this kid performed an action one would not normally associate with being tased. Punished? Most certainly, but not tased.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: musha shugyo
To liken the scenario to the situation that happened, try envisioning yourself provoking a random guy on the street who turns out to be a psycho axe murderer. You didn't know you were provoking someone who would kill you, much like this kid performed an action one would not normally associate with being tased. Punished? Most certainly, but not tased.

So why would you think running naked through the school would NOT provoke a reaction? Clearly, this idiot thought it would, or he wouldn't have bothered with the grease. And he did it anyway - so much for not putting yourself in harm's way.

 

[tomywishbone]

"Hindsight is 20/20. In the small amount of time you saw this guy appear, you're not gonna take the time to calmly look and examine every part of him and determine that he is not armed. He could be holding a small knife in his hand or a hypodermic needle. In reality people will just react to the situation, which is what they did"

:laugh: I'm suprised your keyboard, reaches all the way under your bed. Lookout for dust-bunnies.

 

[trevor0323]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: trevor0323

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
To all of you who think that a taser shouldn't have been used, name another thing that could've been done by the officer while maintaining the safety of those students in the lunch room.

Um lets see do your job the right way and just tackle the guy, I don't care if your greasy your telling me two cops cant tackle one guy down and put his face to the floor.

and btw in class yesterday our professor was just telling us how many departments on the West Coast have been putting restrictions on the use of tasers.

All departments have had restrictions on the use of tasers. The code hasn't changed. Even at UCLA the code hasn't changed.

Do you think you can pin a greased up, naked person? Hell, the UFC fighters can't even pin people who have blood on them much less a person with grapeseed oil covering his enitre naked body. Why do people on anandtech fail at context?

Maybe the code hasn't changed but I'm sure if you taser someone you better be able to explain your story pretty well to your superior, there is too big of a risk of having someone keel over because they had a bad heart or pacemaker or lord knows what else. Anyways I'm not going to argue with you, alls I am saying is that if I was in charge I would have made damn sure those officers found another way to subdue this guy rather than taser him in front of his entire school.

 

[musha shugyo]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: musha shugyo
To liken the scenario to the situation that happened, try envisioning yourself provoking a random guy on the street who turns out to be a psycho axe murderer. You didn't know you were provoking someone who would kill you, much like this kid performed an action one would not normally associate with being tased. Punished? Most certainly, but not tased.

So why would you think running naked through the school would NOT provoke a reaction? Clearly, this idiot thought it would, or he wouldn't have bothered with the grease.

I never said it wouldn't provoke a reaction (his whole intent was probably to get a reaction). I said one would assume it would not provoke tasing.

 

[eits]

it's fRom family guy... gReased up deaf guy

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: musha shugyo
I never said it wouldn't provoke a reaction (his whole intent was probably to get a reaction). I said one would assume it would not provoke tasing.

One may assume anything one likes. That doesn't mean that assumption is correct, or reasonable.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: musha shugyo

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: musha shugyo

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Atheus
Why? He claims it's the student's fault for putting himself in contact with the cops - is it the victim's fault if he puts himself in contact with a axe murderer?

in your case there is a victim being attacked for no reason. in this case there is a student willfully putting himself in harms way. cops dont attack for no reason. the guy gave him a reason. your analogy is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

The victim could have done something to provoke the psycho axe murder, such as call his analogy completely invalid and stupid. The student didn't willfully put himself in harms way, he was performing a harmless prank. I doubt he thought he would end up getting tased by a cop. Also, sometimes cops attack for no reason (they are people before the are police, and, so, infallible), so that statement is completely invalid and not to mention stupid.

Umm, learn to think about the consequences of your actions maybe? If I go and provoke an axe murderer to kill me and then get killed, will there be a bunch of bleeding hearts on the forums or a bunch of Darwin Awards being handed out? If you purposely go and break the law and then get disciplined, why does it stir up controversy? There was no abuse of power here.

To liken the scenario to the situation that happened, try envisioning yourself provoking a random guy on the street who turns out to be a psycho axe murderer. You didn't know you were provoking someone who would kill you, much like this kid performed an action one would not normally associate with being tased. Punished? Most certainly, but not tased.

You're breaking the law in front of an officer after intentionally greasing yourself up to prevent being held down. To liken the analogy, we should go to an axe murderer holding a brand new axe in our hands and then gift it to him and then draw a bullseye on your back. Let's see how absurd we can make this analogy.