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Cops arrest man filming police, shoot his dog.

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JDawg1536 said:
I did a quick google search for you, and here is what I found.... just from last year -

2012 Dog Bite Fatality: Postal Worker Dies Days After Vicious Dog Attack - See more at: http://blog.dogsbite.org/2012/10/20...es-after-dog-attack.html#sthash.9398PRYj.dpuf

2012 Dog Bite Fatality: Letter Carrier Dies After Pit Bull Attack in Escondido - See more at: http://blog.dogsbite.org/2012/03/2012-dog-bite-fatality-letter-carrier.html#sthash.8lLbKOiw.dpuf

Delaware Postal Worker Attacked By Dogs Dies
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/10/18/delaware-postal-worker-attacked-by-dogs-dies/

Mail Carrier Dies After Dog Attack - Who's Responsible?
http://voices.yahoo.com/mail-carrier-dies-after-dog-attack-whos-responsible-11100102.html?cat=53

Dog's Owner Is Devastated by Mailman's Death
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Dogs-Owner-Is-Devastated-Daughter.html
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can you line that up with how many just walked away?
 
Vaux said:
I finally got around to watching this. I have experience working in law enforcement and I can tell you that shooting that dog was completely justified. Those of you who think it wasn't are just clueless about police work.
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If I can try to translate cop to citizen a little, it makes sense to feel terribly about this, and to wish the cops could handle the situation where the dog was not harmed.

And maybe they could have.

But as a procedure and policy, that's another question.

For the sake of argument, let's say the policeman had a 95% chance he could have restrained the dog rather than shooting it and gotten it back to the car.

That's 5% of every one of these situations where he can't, 5% where the police office is injured to varying severity, 5% of cases of medical costs etc.

That risk doesn't make a lot of sense for a police department to take on. Officers have enough risk already without adding that unnecessary risk of injury.

It is tragic, but reasonable.
 
Craig234 said:
If I can try to translate cop to citizen a little, it makes sense to feel terribly about this, and to wish the cops could handle the situation where the dog was not harmed.

And maybe they could have.

But as a procedure and policy, that's another question.

For the sake of argument, let's say the policeman had a 95% chance he could have restrained the dog rather than shooting it and gotten it back to the car.

That's 5% of every one of these situations where he can't, 5% where the police office is injured to varying severity, 5% of cases of medical costs etc.

That risk doesn't make a lot of sense for a police department to take on. Officers have enough risk already without adding that unnecessary risk of injury.

It is tragic, but reasonable.
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How would you explain some dumbass cop pulling his sidearm against me and my ex wife just trying to deposit her first paycheck at a Palm Beach Citibank because I was in a 96 Saturn that he felt didn't belong there.
 
JDawg1536 said:
No, but I don't know any pitbulls, rottweilers, german shepherds, etc., that a human being can out walk.
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I worked in vet tech, I learned to do it. Even if I had to jump on top of the cages.

Please don't talk to me about animals. As a man, I am smarter than they are.
 
WelshBloke said:
No. Where did anyone suggest that?
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it was said he had a previous record. lol. Please keep up.




WelshBloke said:
Who is the "they" you are referring to? Postmen or policemen?
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Postmen. They know dogs are a danger and they prepare each day.

I walk my dog a long way each day. Unfortunately I go into what is best described as a ghetto. I have had to deploy my OC Spray more than once now over a 6 year period. My dog doesn't like just going around the block over and over.
 
alkemyst said:
How would you explain some dumbass cop pulling his sidearm against me and my ex wife just trying to deposit her first paycheck at a Palm Beach Citibank because I was in a 96 Saturn that he felt didn't belong there.
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What has that got to do with the story in the OP?





alkemyst said:
I worked in vet tech, I learned to do it. Even if I had to jump on top of the cages.

Please don't talk to me about animals. As a man, I am smarter than they are.
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Also what has this got to do with the subject at hand?

You really don't need to make everything about you.
 
Hawthorne is a fucking shithole. Still, it sucks that they shot the dog. I feel bad for the poor animal. Kind of can't help but feel this whole situation could have been easily avoided by the dumbass owner.
 
alkemyst said:
I worked in vet tech, I learned to do it. Even if I had to jump on top of the cages.

Please don't talk to me about animals. As a man, I am smarter than they are.
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Well, unfortunately for police who have to apprehend asshole suspects or postal workers who are exposed while doing their jobs, they don't have the luxury of frolicking around on top of cages to preserve the life of something that is trying to kill them.

How would you outsmart a rabid pitbull in the middle of the street? Ask it a riddle?
 
JDawg1536 said:
And as I have posted, they are attacked every day and are killed by dogs. You know who doesn't get killed by dogs? Police officers.
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Everyday a post officer dies? You fucking serious?

The post officers are actually against the police in this.

Dumbass Dawg.
 
alkemyst said:
Everyday a post officer dies? You fucking serious?

The post officers are actually against the police in this.

Dumbass Dawg.
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I said they are attacked every day and are killed by dogs. Not they are attacked and killed by dogs every day. You have a little reading comprehension trouble?

Really? Allllll of the post officers? Where's that poll?
 
alkemyst said:
How would you explain some dumbass cop pulling his sidearm against me and my ex wife just trying to deposit her first paycheck at a Palm Beach Citibank because I was in a 96 Saturn that he felt didn't belong there.
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Based only on that, as the officer behaving badly. I'd like to hear his side.

You filed a complaint, right?
 
JDawg1536 said:
I said they are attacked every day and are killed by dogs. Not they are attacked and killed by dogs every day. You have a little reading comprehension trouble?

Really? Allllll of the post officers? Where's that poll?
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How many Postal Officers are killed by dogs a year?

answer that mother fucker.
 
alkemyst said:
How many Postal Officers are killed by dogs a year?

answer that mother fucker.
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I don't care if it's zero - it doesn't change the policy issue.

If there are effective measures protecting people - good.

Your argument would be like if measures were so effective as to eliminate drunk driving, you use the zero drunk driving as an argument to get rid of the measures.
 
alkemyst said:
How many Postal Officers are killed by dogs a year?

answer that mother fucker.
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I don't know, but I found five from last year in about 30 seconds. Nearly 6,000 were attacked in 2012. I wonder if you asked those 6,000 if they were happy to trade being attacked in turn for saving the life of the dog, how many would say yes. How many of the 4.7 million dog attack victims from last year would say yes? And how many of those dogs were put down, anyway?

You're placing more importance on the life of a dog than the safety/life of a human.
 
oldsmoboat said:
Link to news article on this?
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From 2000 and a private police department? I don't think it was ever on google.

I posted about it here somewhere when it happened. The cop ended up writing me a ticket for my tint but just put the violation code down on the ticket with no fine and no instructions where to mail it in.

If my ex-wife wasn't so worried about a lawsuit affecting her green card case, we would have sued.

He was a new cop and had also drawn his weapon on a lady in a school bus loading zone in Palm Beach a week or so before.
 
JDawg1536 said:
I don't know, but I found five from last year in about 30 seconds. Nearly 6,000 were attacked in 2012. I wonder if you asked those 6,000 if they were happy to trade being attacked in turn for saving the life of the dog, how many would say yes. How many of the 4.7 million dog attack victims from last year would say yes? And how many of those dogs were put down, anyway?

You're placing more importance on the life of a dog than the safety/life of a human.
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Many dog attack victims are due to their own errors of judgment in trying to train a dog to kill as well as keep it as a pet.

Statistics on this are hard to fine, but the USPS is pretty active as a group against what the police are doing; even those that have been attacked.

What the police are doing though is killing even dogs that are non-lethal threats like those chained up or those in a cage because the way the law is written they are ALLOWED to.

It's clear you are to pro-cop/martial law to even understand this.

No one is saying a cop can't shoot a dog that is going to actually harm him.
 
alkemyst said:
Many dog attack victims are due to their own errors of judgment in trying to train a dog to kill as well as keep it as a pet.
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Yes, because they are animals that act on instinct. That's why they are not treated like human beings.

alkemyst said:
Statistics on this are hard to fine, but the USPS is pretty active as a group against what the police are doing; even those that have been attacked.
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Well until you can find some, your statement means nothing.

alkemyst said:
What the police are doing though is killing even dogs that are non-lethal threats like those chained up or those in a cage because the way the law is written they are ALLOWED to.
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Fantastic. That has nothing to do with this case.

alkemyst said:
It's clear you are to pro-cop/martial law to even understand this.
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I'm pro good cops. Who isn't? WTF does martial law have to do with this?
alkemyst said:
No one is saying a cop can't shoot a dog that is going to actually harm him
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Uhhhhhh, then why the fuck are you saying the cop shouldn't have shot the dog?!?!
 
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