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Bird222

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i don't see why them burning the cabin down, even on purpose, is such a big deal. the dude killed 4 people and is a psycho. considering he was in numerous firefights with law enforcement as well, i don't have a problem at all with what they did.

i say kill the crazy dude at all costs. they had him cornered and he wasn't surrendering, and was firing at anyone coming in. he didn't come out after tear gas was thrown in the cabin and the cabin was burning down. he could have came out if he wanted to.

granted, i'm betting he killed himself while he was in the cabin. good riddance though.

We are supposed to be a nation of laws. I'm suee he probably killed all those people, but that is what a trial is for. You need to think hard about your position here.
 

Tommy2000GT

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he is known as Chocolate Rambo now. Before anyone cries about racism, everyone all over the internet is calling him that.
 

sixone

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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/12/police-checking-reports-that-ex-lapd-officer-dorner-sighted/

They could've just taken him down right there when he came out the back door, instead, SWAT pushed him back in.

You should have read the entire article, before posting information known to be incorrect, questionable at best.

[Updated at 9:14 p.m. ET] Earlier, we reported that U.S. Marshals Service district chief Kurt Ellingson told us a suspect tried to get out the back door of the cabin at some point today and was pushed back inside. But there are now conflicting reports about whether the suspect ever emerged.

Ellingson says authorities are not sure whether the suspect came out.
 

Ns1

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We are supposed to be a nation of laws. I'm suee he probably killed all those people, but that is what a trial is for. You need to think hard about your position here.

well if he wanted a trial, he should have surrendered instead of going on a killing rampage. fuck him.
 

gamefreakgcb

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You should have read the entire article, before posting information known to be incorrect, questionable at best.

Now they will never be sure. I'm not saying that they pushed him or not, but as a whole, I've lost complete trust in the authority to do what is right for the people.
 

Dari

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i don't see why them burning the cabin down, even on purpose, is such a big deal. the dude killed 4 people and is a psycho. considering he was in numerous firefights with law enforcement as well, i don't have a problem at all with what they did.

i say kill the crazy dude at all costs. they had him cornered and he wasn't surrendering, and was firing at anyone coming in. he didn't come out after tear gas was thrown in the cabin and the cabin was burning down. he could have came out if he wanted to.

granted, i'm betting he killed himself while he was in the cabin. good riddance though.

Because, 1) he's suspected of killing those people and 2) murder is murder. If it wasn't vigilantism would be legal.
 

DrunkenSano

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You should have read the entire article, before posting information known to be incorrect, questionable at best.

It's not incorrect, the police realized what they said and are trying to pull back their words.
 

coldmeat

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I'm surprised at how many people here seem to think that they actually physically pushed him back into the building.
 

Axon

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They were looking to kill this guy under any circumstances, not just apprehend him. No matter what, he embarrassed them and proved his point to a certain extent.

We all know that power corrupts, and this was a guy who snapped and had enough. I can't justify his actions, as he targeted based on association, but I can say I believed every word he said.

Will we hear about the punishments to the two officers who blindly opened fire on a truck that was not even the color Dorner's was known to be? Will the LAPD ever admit to setting the cabin on fire despite being caught on tape ordering it? Unlikely. And in those ways, we know we have a system that needs reform.
 
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DrunkenSano

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So far, everything points to the police aiming to kill first, ask questions later. There's no reason to use 'burners' when he's trapped and surrounded. There's no reason to open fire on trucks that may look like Dorner's without clear confirmation. No one has proof that they didn't force Dorner to stay inside the burning cabin and burn up.

If you've been following what's been happening from the start, it's more desperate or ignorant to feel that the police are in the right here.
 

Ns1

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No one has proof that they didn't force Dorner to stay inside the burning cabin and burn up.

If he wanted to give up, he could have walked across the street and given up.
 

DrunkenSano

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If he wanted to give up, he could have walked across the street and given up.

If the cops can open fire on trucks where they have no idea who is inside just to kill him, they would've gunned him down if he approached and claim that he had a weapon.
 

randomrogue

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I watched the cabin thing until the end. The video and audio recordings that they did get of the police were disturbing. They were calling to burn him in one and then discussing it as a plan to be executed in another. The spokeswoman didn't know her ass from a hole in the ground and they kept saying stupid shit like that they didn't know if he was even in the cabin or not or who was in the cabin.

I'm not justifying Dorner killing people but clearly the police had one objective from the moment this started and that was to kill him.
 

Ns1

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If the cops can open fire on trucks where they have no idea who is inside just to kill him, they would've gunned him down if he approached and claim that he had a weapon.

sure, if that's what you want to believe.


So what did you want them to do? bake cookies for him?
 

sixone

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If the cops can open fire on trucks where they have no idea who is inside just to kill him, they would've gunned him down if he approached and claim that he had a weapon.

If he believed that, why didn't he DO it? It would have been so much more believable, to people like you.
 

DrunkenSano

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Keep sticking your head in the sand and thinking the cops were in the right on this one. It's obvious if you've been keeping up with the news how fucked up the cops were and what their intentions were.
 

Ns1

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Keep sticking your head in the sand and thinking the cops were in the right on this one. It's obvious if you've been keeping up with the news how fucked up the cops were and what their intentions were.

All I know is the the d-bag killed 5 people and is now dead. 404 problem not found.
 

sixone

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Keep sticking your head in the sand and thinking the cops were in the right on this one. It's obvious if you've been keeping up with the news how fucked up the cops were and what their intentions were.

Okay, this looks like more "desperate to believe".

Just show something remotely resembling evidence of your claim that they "pushed him back". Something better than your own assumptions, please.

If he did all this to get the truth out there, then why didn't he step out of the house when all the news helicopters were flying above? He'd have gotten more free publicity and more credibility than anything else he could possibly have done. He'd either have been completely safe from any rogue cop, or he'd have been gunned down in front of multiple TV cameras on a live video feed across America.
 

Chrono

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Look, not all cops are bad, but the ones that are really make the department as a whole look really bad. Especially those that are bad and get rewarded by being promoted to a higher position.

My brother was cuffed because of a case of mistaken identity. They cuffed him so tight and even moved the cuffs to the point where it caused bruising and bleeding around his wrists. Afterwards they found out they had the wrong guy and let him go with no apology.

My only encounter with the cops was when this guy came into a restaurant I was eating at asking everybody who drove x car. I said I did then he asked when I came there etc. because he was looking for a hit and run (another vehicle). I showed him my receipt with a timestamp showing that I was at the restaurant since x time. He kept questioning me even with proof that I was there before the incident occurred. Keep in mind my car has no damage on it whatsoever as well. WTF? What an idiot.

So obviously it doesn't surprise me that the cops went on a rampage shooting up trucks (Toyota/Chevy) that looked nothing like a Nissan Titan.
 

DrunkenSano

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Okay, this looks like more "desperate to believe".

Just show something remotely resembling evidence of your claim that they "pushed him back". Something better than your own assumptions, please.


Have you not been following the news? The proof is all there that the cops all had one purpose and was to end his life without a trial. It starts when they start lighting up trucks, not just one truck, with bullets without confirmation. Then there is clear audio evidence during the cabin event where they are talking about burning him down. You choosing not to accept those evidence is on you, some people like you just enjoy putting on blinders and think the police can do no wrong.
 

sigurros81

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Have you not been following the news? The proof is all there that the cops all had one purpose and was to end his life without a trial. It starts when they start lighting up trucks, not just one truck, with bullets without confirmation. Then there is clear audio evidence during the cabin event where they are talking about burning him down. You choosing not to accept those evidence is on you, some people like you just enjoy putting on blinders and think the police can do no wrong.

I hear people are coming forward saying that they hear radio chatter between LEOs that they wanted to burn the place down. I don't know who to believe but I do recall people were claiming this way before the cabin got burned down.