Cop Killer on the loose here

[Ns1]

Again, I don't know. Do you?

I think we can infer based on his actions that he wasn't going to

 

[dr150]

He shot officers when they were chasing him, and it was never more than 2 of them. If you think he could have walked out the front door and killed another cop you're nuts. There was probably 100 trigger happy cops waiting for him to come outside. And I'm sure bunches of them were snipers. There's a better chance of me winning the Super Lotto and having sex with Halle Berry on the same day than there would be of him coming out that cabin and shooting even a single officer.

 

[wirednuts]

the story supposedly was 2 cops (one car) saw him, trailed him and lost him but not before 2 other cops went down the same road he did and crossed paths. when that happened, dorner shot at them and killed one. then the other 2 cop cars came behind and chased him into the cabin where the firefight ensued.

they did NOT have the cabin surrounded as far as i can tell. there was only like 4 cops at the scene, and they were fish and game cops.

the fact that they said they found his drivers license in the building but couldnt make an id from the remains REEKS of BS to me. i dont think they ever found a body, and theyre lying to try to out smart dorner.

"We believe that this investigation is over, at this point, and we'll just need to move on from here," San Bernardino Sheriff John McMahon told reporters.
Although the description and behavior of the man who was killed are consistent with Dorner, officials "cannot absolutely, positively confirm it was him," McMahon said.
"We're not currently involved in a manhunt," he said. "Our coroner's division is trying to confirm the identity through forensics."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html

in other words, theyre trying to sweep the whole thing under the rug. the bin laden effect i guess. too much publicity for just one guy, and you dont know how to catch him so just say "hes not a threat anymore. move on"

to say youre "no longer in a manhunt" is a total lie. you dont stop until its confirmed over. they are clearly trying to bullshit their way out of this.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Its official, the remains are Dorner.

http://news.yahoo.com/burned-remains-idd-fugitive-ex-cop-dorner-000050273.html

 

[Ns1]

Its official, the remains are Dorner.

http://news.yahoo.com/burned-remains-idd-fugitive-ex-cop-dorner-000050273.html

yeah I bet this does nothing to appease the CT'ers

"there is no way they could have identified those remains!"

 

[Capt Caveman]

the story supposedly was 2 cops (one car) saw him, trailed him and lost him but not before 2 other cops went down the same road he did and crossed paths. when that happened, dorner shot at them and killed one. then the other 2 cop cars came behind and chased him into the cabin where the firefight ensued.

they did NOT have the cabin surrounded as far as i can tell. there was only like 4 cops at the scene, and they were fish and game cops.

the fact that they said they found his drivers license in the building but couldnt make an id from the remains REEKS of BS to me. i dont think they ever found a body, and theyre lying to try to out smart dorner.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html

in other words, theyre trying to sweep the whole thing under the rug. the bin laden effect i guess. too much publicity for just one guy, and you dont know how to catch him so just say "hes not a threat anymore. move on"

to say youre "no longer in a manhunt" is a total lie. you dont stop until its confirmed over. they are clearly trying to bullshit their way out of this.

:biggrin:

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Too bad OJ didn't end up this way.

 

[wirednuts]

yeah I bet this does nothing to appease the CT'ers

"there is no way they could have identified those remains!"

i dont think there was remains to identify because he ran away after setting the house on fire. or there was someone in there and dorner left them to be id'd as him

the way the lapd handled this whole thing tells me that whatever they are publicly saying is most likely a lie. now dorner is supposed to think they stopped looking, hopefully making him let his guard down.

 

[Ns1]

i dont think there was remains to identify because he ran away after setting the house on fire. or there was someone in there and dorner left them to be id'd as him

the way the lapd handled this whole thing tells me that whatever they are publicly saying is most likely a lie. now dorner is supposed to think they stopped looking, hopefully making him let his guard down.

so what I'm hearing here is that you think there is a conspiracy theory and that none of this is true:

San Bernardino County sheriff’s officials have positively identified the charred remains found in a mountain cabin Tuesday as being the body of Christopher Dorner.

Officials said they made the identification using dental records during the autopsy.

The announcement brings a formal end to the epic manhunt for Dorner, who was accused of killing four people, including two law enforcement officers. He was killed at the end of a hours-long standoff in a cabin near Big Bear on Tuesday afternoon.

 

[Capt Caveman]

i dont think there was remains to identify because he ran away after setting the house on fire. or there was someone in there and dorner left them to be id'd as him

the way the lapd handled this whole thing tells me that whatever they are publicly saying is most likely a lie. now dorner is supposed to think they stopped looking, hopefully making him let his guard down.

You do know that the LAPD didn't handle this, right? And you don't think Dorner knew that dental records can be used to Id a body?

Seriously, you think Dorner is still alive? :biggrin:

 

[wirednuts]

so what I'm hearing here is that you think there is a conspiracy theory and that none of this is true:

who knows whats true. of all the mis-information that came out of this story, youre going to believe it now?

and dental records are FAR from accurate. there was a whole csi documentary on nova about all that. they are desperately trying to find better ways to ID people because DNA evidence is now proving a lot of those dental ID's were simply wrong.

 

[wirednuts]

You do know that the LAPD didn't handle this, right? And you don't think Dorner knew that dental records can be used to Id a body?

Seriously, you think Dorner is still alive? :biggrin:

i do know fish and wildlife ended it, and the lieutenant that was on the case at the end seems like a completely honest and legit guy. im not saying dorner is still alive. im just not going to believe he's dead either.

 

[88keys]

You know I have wondered why they couldn't just use a type of sleeping gas to render him unconscious, and then take him into custody.

 

[Ns1]

who knows whats true. of all the mis-information that came out of this story, youre going to believe it now?

and dental records are FAR from accurate. there was a whole csi documentary on nova about all that. they are desperately trying to find better ways to ID people because DNA evidence is now proving a lot of those dental ID's were simply wrong.

thanks for fulfilling the prophecy.

im not saying dorner is still alive. im just not going to believe he's dead either.

 

[88keys]

so what I'm hearing here is that you think there is a conspiracy theory and that none of this is true:

The L.A.P.D. has a long long history of corruption and cover ups going back before Rodney King. That being said, early media reports are often riddled with in accuracies and such, and this is a constant in almost all major media events which goes back to the day long before Television.

That being said, I seriously doubt the LAPD's is revealing the whole story truthfully. I also am uncertain as to what is fact and what is speculation from the media.

There will be investigations into this I'm sure, but only time will tell. Either way, I think it's too early to know for sure how it all really went down.

 

[Ns1]

The L.A.P.D. has a long long history of corruption and cover ups going back before Rodney King. That being said, early media reports are often riddled with in accuracies and such, and this is a constant in almost all major media events which goes back to the day long before Television.

That being said, I seriously doubt the LAPD's is revealing the whole story truthfully. I also am uncertain as to what is fact and what is speculation from the media.

There will be investigations into this I'm sure, but only time will tell. Either way, I think it's too early to know for sure how it all really went down.

We have a body and coroners have ID'ed it. Are you saying that it is not true and that there is a conspiracy going on?

 

[Capt Caveman]

i do know fish and wildlife ended it, and the lieutenant that was on the case at the end seems like a completely honest and legit guy. im not saying dorner is still alive. im just not going to believe he's dead either.

You believe that 9/11 and Sandy Hook were gov't conspiracies?

 

[Capt Caveman]

We have a body and coroners have ID'ed it. Are you saying that it is not true and that there is a conspiracy going on?

Come on, the couple that he tied-up and stole their purple nissan and the warden that he stole the white pick-up truck were mistaken and did not identify him. Dorner is in Mexico b/c the LAPD and US gov't benefit from all of this.

The San Bernardino officer killed, is still alive too.

 

[88keys]

We have a body and coroners have ID'ed it. Are you saying that it is not true and that there is a conspiracy going on?

No, I'm not saying he's still alive, I'd say that he's dead.. I'm just pointing out that there are legitimate reasons to not believe everything you're told about this.

FWIW, it was mis reported that Dorner's body was IDd' yesterday when that actually happened today.

 

[Ns1]

FWIW, it was mis reported that Dorner's body was IDd' yesterday when that actually happened today.

By the media yes. By LAPD/Sheriffs no.

 

[wirednuts]

thanks for fulfilling the prophecy.

whats the confusion? all it means is i dont know.

 

[88keys]

yeah, that's true. But I still wouldn't believe everything the LAPD tells me either

 

[wirednuts]

You believe that 9/11 and Sandy Hook were gov't conspiracies?

no, i dont. what do those events have to do with this one? and when did i say this was a government conspiracy? i think its an LAPD conspiracy. i mean, thats not even really debatable because they arent telling us squat.

 

[Capt Caveman]

no, i dont. what do those events have to do with this one? and when did i say this was a government conspiracy? i think its an LAPD conspiracy. i mean, thats not even really debatable because they arent telling us squat.

Well, since it was a San Bernardino County Sheriff and US Game & Wildlife operation and not a LAPD one, the US Gov't would have to be part of this conspiracy.

What are we not being told? I've read plenty of details on what went down.

 

[Ns1]

whats the confusion? all it means is i dont know.

So what will make you believe Dorner is dead, if it's not dental records?