Cop Killer on the loose here

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QueBert

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Is there solid verification that these murders really were his doing?

I don't care what he went through or what his plan is, but how can any one root for him if he's actively killing innocents?

The murders are tragic, but so is the corruption in the police force. And unfortunately it ended up taking something like this to get the ball rolling. It's sad as fuck that he resorted to this just to help expose all the crookedness in the LAPD. Big changes need to happen in the police force, I live in a gang infested area and to be totally honest I'd had more run ins with the police around here than the gang members.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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You have a choice to do inactive reserves or just reserves, most choose the latter.

If you do reserves though, you're still pretty well in the military. If you do inactive reserve, you're out unless shit hit the fan and they need you; you're not obligated to maintain readiness. Also, people don't generally make a conscious decision to do one or the other; fulfilling it while in reserves is just a side effect. They could also do 8 years active if they wanted to in order to fulfill their obligation.
 

SSSnail

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If you do reserves though, you're still pretty well in the military. If you do inactive reserve, you're out unless shit hit the fan and they need you; you're not obligated to maintain readiness. Also, people don't generally make a conscious decision to do one or the other; fulfilling it while in reserves is just a side effect. They could also do 8 years active if they wanted to in order to fulfill their obligation.

Not really, being in the reserves give you time count towards federal retirement scale, inactive does not. Being in the reserves also give you other military benefits that inactive doesn't.

Actively serving four years versus being in the reserves are two totally different things with regards to commitments and flexibility.

Are you military, or prior? Just asking, because I'm a deactivated Marine.
 

raildogg

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Aug 24, 2004
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"He said, “I’ve lost everything … because the LAPD took my name and new (cq) I was innocent. Randy Quan new (cq) I was innocent but decided to terminate me.”"

Gotta disagree with you on the highly intelligent part. A highly intelligent person knows the difference between new and knew.

Highly intelligent and highly educated are two separate things. We don't know who is intelligent and who is not. It is based on our personal beliefs only.

But this case is further example to show that our modern and sophisticated society doesn't seem to be living at peace - to put it kindly. We're so focused on technology and achievement that what is truly important is totally ignored.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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It's really quite unreal. This story is the stuff of movies. Not to judge him in either direction, but the things that he references are real events, the excessive force issue, the declaration that he was going to "terminate" Quan.

Holy hell this is insane.
 

brainhulk

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if only we knew he wasnt crazy.....

http://news.yahoo.com/court-file-la-ex-cop-disturbed-self-obsessed-233440436.html

In the manifesto, Dorner said the LAPD destroyed his life, ruined his relationships with his mother and sister and harmed his military career.
Those types of statements don't surprise O'Toole, the former FBI profiler, who said narcissists feel intense shame and humiliation when outside events challenge their perception of themselves.
"He's somebody I call an injustice collector," she said. "When they respond to an injustice that they think is out there, their reaction is completely over the top."
 

Baked

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I hope he never gets caught. The LAPD and california police union is a bunch of crooks.
 

Agent11

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Have the cops managed to refrain from shooting up any more old ladies in scary vehicles?
 

Red Squirrel

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So will Nissan Titans now be considered assault trucks, and illegal? Does it matter if it has a manual transmission or auto? Will they have to restrict how much gas can be put into them at a given time?
 

WiseUp216

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So will Nissan Titans now be considered assault trucks, and illegal? Does it matter if it has a manual transmission or auto? Will they have to restrict how much gas can be put into them at a given time?

I can possibly understand taking your Nissan Titan on a hunting trip but driving it around the city? Really?!

At the very least they should have smaller tires and a governor set at 35 MPH.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Not really, being in the reserves give you time count towards federal retirement scale, inactive does not. Being in the reserves also give you other military benefits that inactive doesn't.

Actively serving four years versus being in the reserves are two totally different things with regards to commitments and flexibility.

Are you military, or prior? Just asking, because I'm a deactivated Marine.

I'm in the military. I'm aware of the differences between inactive and reserves, and they're also two totally different things compared to each other. Reserves is basically a part time job, and inactive is just a status that there's a small chance to get pulled to do something. I've still never seen anyone else consider it a choice to do one or the other. No one chooses to do reserves to avoid their inactive status; it's just the default if you're not in anymore.
 

SSSnail

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I'm in the military. I'm aware of the differences between inactive and reserves, and they're also two totally different things compared to each other. Reserves is basically a part time job, and inactive is just a status that there's a small chance to get pulled to do something. I've still never seen anyone else consider it a choice to do one or the other. No one chooses to do reserves to avoid their inactive status; it's just the default if you're not in anymore.
Your declaration of "no one" is false. A lot of people do it for the reasons I mentioned.

Not everyone that gotten out have a clear direction of where they want to go, so they choose reserves. Those that do so, most likely will reenlist after a bit, because they can't do anything else on the outside. I've seen many of those.

Just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean "no one" does it. One of my ex-colleague was in the reserves after his active tours, he did it for time count towards retirement. It's just another way for him to get federal benefits when his 20 years hit.

Maybe you should look into that.
 

zanejohnson

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the twitter hashtag #lapd is going absolutely NUTS..

it was trending for a while, but i think twitter has censored it/kept it from trending
 

Destiny

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Have the cops managed to refrain from shooting up any more old ladies in scary vehicles?

I can possibly understand taking your Nissan Titan on a hunting trip but driving it around the city? Really?!

At the very least they should have smaller tires and a governor set at 35 MPH.


So will Nissan Titans now be considered assault trucks, and illegal? Does it matter if it has a manual transmission or auto? Will they have to restrict how much gas can be put into them at a given time?

The police have verified the burned Titan truck in Big Bear was his... like a boss he destroyed his own Titan truck to prevent cops from shooting up other innocent truck drivers... before that local Los Angeles news Channels were recommending people to keep their trucks at home or drive carefully and obey all traffic laws when driving a truck so they will not freak out the local cops on the edge...:colbert:
 

Baked

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The update this morning is that they couldn't find the guy, so they're trying to trick him into turning himself in by telling the public that the LAPD will reevaluate the firing of this man, which makes no sense because he still killed a cop, and he broke the code. He's a dead man whether they catch him or he turns himself in.
 

OBLAMA2009

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I hope he never gets caught. The LAPD and california police union is a bunch of crooks.

chris dorner is a hero and a patriot who dared to expose LAPD corruption. when he refused to go along with police abuse they lied about him and ruined his life. any decent person, if they saw chris dorner, would give him food, shelter, and fresh ammo. this case is the new ruby ridge, where a citizen stands up against an evil violent government
 

OBLAMA2009

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The update this morning is that they couldn't find the guy, so they're trying to trick him into turning himself in by telling the public that the LAPD will reevaluate the firing of this man, which makes no sense because he still killed a cop, and he broke the code. He's a dead man whether they catch him or he turns himself in.

yes their death squads can find him, they even shot other people trying to murder dorner, and there are facebook and twitter accounts popping up in support of dorner. this case is horrible pr for the cops, people are realizing they are the real danger to society, not a hero like dorner
 

wirednuts

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The update this morning is that they couldn't find the guy, so they're trying to trick him into turning himself in by telling the public that the LAPD will reevaluate the firing of this man, which makes no sense because he still killed a cop, and he broke the code. He's a dead man whether they catch him or he turns himself in.

that will probably work. i wonder if they tell everyone in the city to turn up their stereos he will just flat out surrender. it worked in waco... ahem...