Cop charged with murder after shooting

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Ichinisan

Ichinisan

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Dari said:
For a cop it's just another day at work. For a civilian it's life-changing.
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Even if I thought the officer had no right to demand that I get out of the vehicle, in the same situation I would still comply until the whole thing is worked out. I don't know the implications of driving in a state where your license was suspended while carrying a valid out-of-state license...and I don't think he knew the implications either.


Anyway, I hope the cop gets the book thrown at him for this more recent incident.
 
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Dari

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Ichinisan said:
Even if I thought the officer had no right to demand that I get out of the vehicle, in the same situation I would still comply until the whole thing is worked out. I don't know the implications of driving in a state where your license was suspended while carrying a valid out-of-state license...and I don't think he knew the implications either.


Anyway, I hope the cop gets the book thrown at him for this more recent incident.
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Even if you comply to everything they say it can still be life-changing. Charging you is putting a number on you and putting you through the criminal justice system, which can be grinding, expensive and time-consuming where you could end up losing your job (or worse). It's not something you want to be a part of. For a cop everyday of your misery is a day at work, whether he's pulling you over or processing you or testifying at your trial. They don't give a flying fuck about the effect of their actions on civilians.
 
bshole

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Dari said:
Even if you comply to everything they say it can still be life-changing. Charging you is putting a number on you and putting you through the criminal justice system, which can be grinding, expensive and time-consuming where you could end up losing your job (or worse). It's not something you want to be a part of. For a cop everyday of your misery is a day at work, whether he's pulling you over or processing you or TESTILYING at your trial. They don't give a flying fuck about the effect of their actions on civilians.
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FTFY
 
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Darwin333

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Ns1 said:
I understood the intent perfectly fine. let me blow your mind real quick:

what he intended/meant to say is not what he said, and I refuted what he actually said
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So you understood his intent and decided to argue something you know he didn't intend.... just for the sake of arguing? In the future I'd appreciate a heads up that you are intentionally being stupid so I don't waste my time. Thanks in advance.
 
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Darwin333

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FirNaTine said:
<- 18 Years as a firefighter, 14 years full time career service in a large department.

I'll say this, my calling has placed me in the hospital several times before, and I carry chronic injuries as a result. I also would do the same again given the choice. I've had the opportunity to save several lives, and the scars (visible and invisible) I bear are worth it.

But, this is a simplistic view. I also know several police officers who are exactly the same, and I know firefighters who aren't.

It's kinda the same thing as any stereotype... True for some, not true for all.
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It is over simplified but from a pure policy standpoint alone I believe it to be accurate.
 
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Jaskalas

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I missed this one? Shooting of Walter Scott

Well I'm going to say it now. An innocent, (nonviolent) man was on drugs and scared of police. He gets stopped over a broken tail light and flees the vehicle. Probably wants to be charged with fleeing rather than drugs. Stupid !@#$ing country. Anyways... officer decides to chase Mr. Scott, catches him, physical confrontation, taser used and failed... as Mr. Scott continues to flee the officer shoots him in the back, and kills him.

A man just wants to live in peace... is literally hunted down and killed.

Trial begins soon, across the street from the Dylan Roof trial.
15 years sound about right? I'd convict him of second degree murder.

Oh, and !@#$ the war on drugs. The two men in this story have lost their lives over it.
 
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Darwin333

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Pipeline 1010 said:
Why are cops so tight lipped about the actions of the cop "in the interest of a """"fair"""" investigation" and yet they are so happy to release dirt about the non-cop in any incident? Including looking up the non-cop's background?
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Not to mention, where are the officers blood tests showing what he did or did not have in his system at the time of the shooting? We make people take blood tests after fatal accidents in a lot of states, in mine if you refuse to take a breathalyzer after being arrested for DUI they will get a magistrate to issue a warrant for your blood. Then they literally hold you down and force you to give a blood sample. Seeing as how it's evidently relevant if the victim of a police shooting has recently used drugs/alcohol then I think it's at least as relevant if the officer has too. I can't see how the unions would be against a policy of officers giving blood samples after a fatal shooting, expecting an officer to be clean and sober at the time of killing someone in the line of duty isn't unreasonable at all.
 
pcgeek11

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For the life of me I cannot understand how they cannot convict for murder or at least voluntary manslaughter.

That dude is guilty as sin.
 
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Bird222

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pcgeek11 said:
For the life of me I cannot understand how they cannot convict for murder or at least voluntary manslaughter.

That dude is gulty as sin.
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Totally agree. I don't know if this is racism or cops can do no wrong bullshit. I'm actually leaning towards 'cops can do no wrong'. What does it take to get cops punished for crimes they commit? We see the guy shoot someone running away and then him plant the taser by his body and you can't see he killed the guy and was trying to cover it up? WTF! I try to give juries the benefit of the doubt, but I'm having a really hard time with this one.
 
Sonikku

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Someone was telling me yesterday that it's things like this that resulted in Trump winning. Because the racial divide and violence is Obama's fault.
 
Paratus

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Some words from the holdout juror.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/02/walter_scott_and_michael_slager_trial_outcome.html

On Friday afternoon, Judge Newman read out two unusual notes submitted to him by members of the jury. One came from the foreman, and said simply, “It’s just one juror that has the issues.” The second apparently came from that juror, and took the form of a lengthy letter. In it, the juror wrote, “I cannot in good conscience consider a guilty verdict. I respect the position of my fellow jurors, some of which oppose my position. I expect those who hold opposing views not to change their minds.”

The juror continued: “We all struggle with the death of a man and with all that has been put before us. I still cannot, without a reasonable doubt, convict the defendant. At the same time my heart does not want to have to tell the Scott family that the man that killed their son, father, and brother is innocent. But with the choices I cannot and will not change my mind.”
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brycejones

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Fenixgoon said:
which is bullshit.

edit: aren't jurors not supposed to discuss the case?
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I don't think there is anything odd here. The juror was communicating to the judge in writing his reasons for being unable to reach a verdict. Also it wasn't a discussion the juror was having with others outside of the jury room.
 
highland145

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WTF? I saw this on the news today. Slager killed that guy and he was not a threat. Shot at 8 times from behind? The juror is almost as bad as Slager himself.

And +1 for cell phones being everywhere or this fuck would have surely walked.
 
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Fenixgoon

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brycejones said:
I don't think there is anything odd here. The juror was communicating to the judge in writing his reasons for being unable to reach a verdict. Also it wasn't a discussion the juror was having with others outside of the jury room.
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oh ok. i thought the juror was talking to the press (which my understand was you're not supposed to until after the case)
 
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