Cop Charged With Assault After Brutally Beating A 15 Year Old Girl

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
However, if even a dozen people who would otherwise have been uncooperative & assaultive toward officers thought better of it as a result of this incident, the police and the rest of us are better off for it.

I reckon things like this make me more likely to assualt a police officer not less.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: DrPizza
However, if even a dozen people who would otherwise have been uncooperative & assaultive toward officers thought better of it as a result of this incident, the police and the rest of us are better off for it.

I reckon things like this make me more likely to assualt a police officer not less.

^This.

It is exactly what creates MORE TROUBLE for cops

Cops are there to protect and serve ... not beatdown citizens when they have some anger issues they need to release

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Anubis
this is the kind of thing i wish would happen to jpeyton IRL

not me. this girl is going to win a large larwsuit against them.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Again I strongly disagree with most cops enforcement of things. That said, should I ever decide to hit one with a shoe..no matter how hard; I couldn't complain to whatever they decided to do with me after that.

^^ this is why I went over the top on you... ^^ worst shit I ever seen

"That little girl kicked her shoe at me your honor, I had to blacken both her eyes just to show her who is boss"

Someone that steals a car, assaults another prior to, gets her chicken neck on then kicking shoes at a cop is hardly a little girl.

You are trolling here. We are all saying the cop was excessive. Regardless that girl would have been broken down and placed in restraints. You cannot excuse that.

Also I don't think you realize that assault on an official is a lot different than assault on Julio back at the labor pool. Same way carrying a gun while commiting a crime is at a whole other level than the crime itself.

You strike another person at any level that is assault. The other person should not have to wait to assess the level you hit them with prior to an all out attack on the assaulter.

Many of our laws are changing to promote this as people are dying rather than defending themselves. In Florida, our castle laws were upgraded due to the number of violent crimes with perpetrators knowing they couldn't be attacked in many situations.

My money is on this chick hoping get herself tased a lawsuit. I think she got more than she bargained for.

 

[holden j caufield]

Short of her having a knife or gun (which we know isn't the case) I can't ever imagine this appropriate. If you give these people power you have to hold to higher standards.
The guy does this with a camera rolling and another peer right there I shudder to think what happens in other scenarios. If you have a daughter and find this behavior acceptable you're a very sick person. Kids do stupid sht but a grown man could kill a teenager like this.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: DrPizza
However, if even a dozen people who would otherwise have been uncooperative & assaultive toward officers thought better of it as a result of this incident, the police and the rest of us are better off for it.

I reckon things like this make me more likely to assualt a police officer not less.

So you are saying you'd get the best of a cop then?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: DrPizza
However, if even a dozen people who would otherwise have been uncooperative & assaultive toward officers thought better of it as a result of this incident, the police and the rest of us are better off for it.

I reckon things like this make me more likely to assualt a police officer not less.

^This.

It is exactly what creates MORE TROUBLE for cops

Cops are there to protect and serve ... not beatdown citizens when they have some anger issues they need to release

<obama>Hello American People, as of today our citizens are free to throw their shoes at each and any cop they disagree with and not expect any repercussions from our boys in blue.</obama>

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: holden j caufield
Short of her having a knife or gun (which we know isn't the case) I can't ever imagine this appropriate. If you give these people power you have to hold to higher standards.
The guy does this with a camera rolling and another peer right there I shudder to think what happens in other scenarios. If you have a daughter and find this behavior acceptable you're a very sick person. Kids do stupid sht but a grown man could kill a teenager like this.

He didn't kill her, nor did he intend too.

If you are a father of a daughter like this I would hope you were also a bit concerned of her defiance post-arrest for stealing a car and assaulting someone else.

We also did not get to see all the moments leading up to this. While it was excessive I don't think this was that chicks first show of 'force' against the officers.

 

[DayLaPaul]

Justified or not, I like my punishment doled out by judges and juries, not rogue cops, thank you.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: DrPizza
However, if even a dozen people who would otherwise have been uncooperative & assaultive toward officers thought better of it as a result of this incident, the police and the rest of us are better off for it.

I reckon things like this make me more likely to assualt a police officer not less.

So you are saying you'd get the best of a cop then?

I probably would get get the better of most people but that's not what I was saying, besides there's no way to prove it, for all you know I could be a 5' glasses-wearing dweeb. I was just saying these things create anger not respect in me and I assume many other people.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: DrPizza
However, if even a dozen people who would otherwise have been uncooperative & assaultive toward officers thought better of it as a result of this incident, the police and the rest of us are better off for it.

I reckon things like this make me more likely to assualt a police officer not less.

So you are saying you'd get the best of a cop then?

I probably would get get the better of most people but that's not what I was saying, besides there's no way to prove it, for all you know I could be a 5' glasses-wearing dweeb. I was just saying these things create anger not respect in me and I assume many other people.

go out and throw a shoe at a cop in protest then.

 

[slayer202]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: DrPizza
However, if even a dozen people who would otherwise have been uncooperative & assaultive toward officers thought better of it as a result of this incident, the police and the rest of us are better off for it.

I reckon things like this make me more likely to assualt a police officer not less.

So you are saying you'd get the best of a cop then?

I probably would get get the better of most people but that's not what I was saying, besides there's no way to prove it, for all you know I could be a 5' glasses-wearing dweeb. I was just saying these things create anger not respect in me and I assume many other people.

go out and throw a shoe at a cop in protest then.

you are dumb. plain and simple. lets say youre in a bar. a girl throws her shoe at your, even hits you hard in the face. do you even touch her? maybe you call her a wise and beautiful woman, maybe you try to fight her boyfriend, but most normal guys wouldn't hit her. if an average citizen has enough sense to hold themselves back, even if they were drunk and knew the dumb bitch stole cars and did stupid shit, a fucking COP doing his JOB should be able to control his stupid ass, especially in a fucking police station where he has plenty of help and is safe.

the people defending this guy at all are seriously fucked up in the head. unless you are trolling or being macho on the internet, DIAF

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Again I strongly disagree with most cops enforcement of things. That said, should I ever decide to hit one with a shoe..no matter how hard; I couldn't complain to whatever they decided to do with me after that.

^^ this is why I went over the top on you... ^^ worst shit I ever seen

"That little girl kicked her shoe at me your honor, I had to blacken both her eyes just to show her who is boss"

Someone that steals a car, assaults another prior to, gets her chicken neck on then kicking shoes at a cop is hardly a little girl.

You are trolling here. We are all saying the cop was excessive. Regardless that girl would have been broken down and placed in restraints. You cannot excuse that.

Also I don't think you realize that assault on an official is a lot different than assault on Julio back at the labor pool. Same way carrying a gun while commiting a crime is at a whole other level than the crime itself.

You strike another person at any level that is assault. The other person should not have to wait to assess the level you hit them with prior to an all out attack on the assaulter.

Many of our laws are changing to promote this as people are dying rather than defending themselves. In Florida, our castle laws were upgraded due to the number of violent crimes with perpetrators knowing they couldn't be attacked in many situations.

My money is on this chick hoping get herself tased a lawsuit. I think she got more than she bargained for.

Guess it will be a good day when we read about how you threw your netbook at a cop and he/she shot you in your face? Sure showed you ... eh?

 

[holden j caufield]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: holden j caufield
Short of her having a knife or gun (which we know isn't the case) I can't ever imagine this appropriate. If you give these people power you have to hold to higher standards.
The guy does this with a camera rolling and another peer right there I shudder to think what happens in other scenarios. If you have a daughter and find this behavior acceptable you're a very sick person. Kids do stupid sht but a grown man could kill a teenager like this.

He didn't kill her, nor did he intend too.

If you are a father of a daughter like this I would hope you were also a bit concerned of her defiance post-arrest for stealing a car and assaulting someone else.

We also did not get to see all the moments leading up to this. While it was excessive I don't think this was that chicks first show of 'force' against the officers.

Maybe you're very weak and don't understand it but a grown man hitting anybody in the head stands a possibility of great harm or death. You could definitely kill any person with a blow to the head, it's a matter of the spot on the head you connect with. Being a grown man and hitting a teenage girl in the head just amplifies the chances. The head should be considered deadly assault vs. say a shin.

Her punishment for whatever she did prior should be determined by the courts.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: slayer202

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: DrPizza
However, if even a dozen people who would otherwise have been uncooperative & assaultive toward officers thought better of it as a result of this incident, the police and the rest of us are better off for it.

I reckon things like this make me more likely to assualt a police officer not less.

So you are saying you'd get the best of a cop then?

I probably would get get the better of most people but that's not what I was saying, besides there's no way to prove it, for all you know I could be a 5' glasses-wearing dweeb. I was just saying these things create anger not respect in me and I assume many other people.

go out and throw a shoe at a cop in protest then.

you are dumb. plain and simple. lets say youre in a bar. a girl throws her shoe at your, even hits you hard in the face. do you even touch her? maybe you call her a wise and beautiful woman, maybe you try to fight her boyfriend, but most normal guys wouldn't hit her. if an average citizen has enough sense to hold themselves back, even if they were drunk and knew the dumb bitch stole cars and did stupid shit, a fucking COP doing his JOB should be able to control his stupid ass, especially in a fucking police station where he has plenty of help and is safe.

the people defending this guy at all are seriously fucked up in the head. unless you are trolling or being macho on the internet, DIAF

Sadly, they believe in what they are saying.. you can feel it... I fear for their wives and family.... and neighbors...

"But, Officer, my neighbor sprayed me with the hose... I had to run them over with my car... "

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: DrPizza
However, if even a dozen people who would otherwise have been uncooperative & assaultive toward officers thought better of it as a result of this incident, the police and the rest of us are better off for it.

I reckon things like this make me more likely to assualt a police officer not less.

^This.

It is exactly what creates MORE TROUBLE for cops

Cops are there to protect and serve ... not beatdown citizens when they have some anger issues they need to release

<obama>Hello American People, as of today our citizens are free to throw their shoes at each and any cop they disagree with and not expect any repercussions from our boys in blue.</obama>

You really are a dumbass who I hope goes into an interview and they search the net and find this thread.

Boys in Blue do not dole out punishment ... Karma will come to abusers like you

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: dahunan
You really are a dumbass who I hope goes into an interview and they search the net and find this thread.

Boys in Blue do not dole out punishment ... Karma will come to abusers like you

how do you have me pegged as an abuser?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: holden j caufield
Maybe you're very weak and don't understand it but a grown man hitting anybody in the head stands a possibility of great harm or death. You could definitely kill any person with a blow to the head, it's a matter of the spot on the head you connect with. Being a grown man and hitting a teenage girl in the head just amplifies the chances. The head should be considered deadly assault vs. say a shin.

Her punishment for whatever she did prior should be determined by the courts.

There is a level of force and where one can hit. This chick was fine...so could have/should have arguments are stupid.

You can kill someone by hitting them in many places...I took martial arts for several years as a late teen/adult (as opposed to many that did so in middle school and prior). I was in full contact tournaments often. We didn't attempt to put each other in a wheelchair for life.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: slayer202
you are dumb. plain and simple. lets say youre in a bar. a girl throws her shoe at your, even hits you hard in the face. do you even touch her? maybe you call her a wise and beautiful woman, maybe you try to fight her boyfriend, but most normal guys wouldn't hit her. if an average citizen has enough sense to hold themselves back, even if they were drunk and knew the dumb bitch stole cars and did stupid shit, a fucking COP doing his JOB should be able to control his stupid ass, especially in a fucking police station where he has plenty of help and is safe.

the people defending this guy at all are seriously fucked up in the head. unless you are trolling or being macho on the internet, DIAF

Dude, a normal guy is not going to pick a fight with a boyfriend because his girl did something.

If a chick hits me HARD in the face I am not going to let her do that again whether it's me hitting her back or someother way.

I almost lost an ear to a chick once, as soon as I felt it tear she was leveled. Had I called her just a wise and beautiful woman I would be disfigured. She lived and learned, I was covered in blood.

Another time some drunk lady thought we stole her purse. She had a 2x4 with nails all in it. I stopped it from hitting me in the head and had two nails through my hand. I didn't strike her but we did get her down and calmed down. Her purse ended up behind her passenger seat.

I think most guys that get all romantic about taking blows from girls simply were never in those situations or simply have only been around frail chicks. Most of the chicks I grew up around were into sports and dance...they'd probably beat any average guy down within 10 pounds of them pretty easy.

This cop did not 'punish' this chick because of the car theft..he retaliated after being assaulted.

There is no denying this chick assaulted the police officer. Also no one, myself included; is saying it was 'ok' for such force to be used. She should have been broken down and cuffed/strapped and sat down.

For the record no on it trying to be MACHO except those like you and Dahunan that would probably be seriously injured if you let every 15 y/o get a hit in on you.

Also there were two officers there. Not the whole police station. Yes eventually the chick would have been subdued if she killed the cop...but to say he should just take on any beating because eventually more cops will come is stupid and unrealistic.

You are also talking to someone that really could care less for most cops. I think they abuse their power mostly. However; given the things that could happen to any officer should a person be able to strike or even put their hands on them...I think they should be able to return at anything short of permanent disfigurement/maiming/death.

This girl got beat up not handicapped.

 

[roid450]

She deserves it :thumbsup: every bit of it. Good job 😛

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: spidey07
Don't assault a police officer and this won't happen to you.

She kicked her shoes at him -- and it didn't even look like she did it that hard. Was she being a brat? Sure. But that was totally uncalled for, and he SHOULDN'T have felt threatened by her at that point.

Next time you see an officer, throw a shoe at him and see what happens.

knowing my cousin, he'll throw it back.

 

[GoingUp]

It was an over the top reaction, esp when hes punching her in the head while on her back.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: GrumpyMan
I agree the cop should be disemboweled in front of his family, making them watch and then letting a pack or ravenous wolves eat it all up afterwards. Sound a little excessive? Well yeah it is, but then so is beating up a 15 year old girl for flipping a shoe at that pussy cop. He probably blows his partner during breaks.

What does his family have to do with it? I'd tell you what I think of you, but I'd be promptly banned.

I think Grumpy Man got carried away by the siren call of his own lurid rhetoric . . . or he's fourteen . . . or both.

Who can tell without further data?

Both conditions present alike.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: Venix

Nobody said that resisting an officer should go unpunished, only that officers should not be the ones meting out punishment. Those of us who aren't imbeciles understand the importance of separation of powers; granting the police the power to judge and punish offenders emasculates the judiciary and pisses on the graves of the country's founders. It's also rife for abuse; there is no shortage of officers who believe that asserting one's civil rights is "resisting."

I'll grant you that ultimate punishment should reside with the courts. Every officer who does violence to a civilian under questionable circumstances should be tried and punished if it can not be determined that he had been provoked. If he HAS been provoked...well that's a different story. Audio/video logs would be a cinch, but the word of some buddies on the police force would need more corroborating evidence to prove it.

Of course, you're certainly the type of spineless authoritarian pussy who would never assert his rights because you "have nothing to hide," so that probably isn't an issue for you. As Don Vito said, you are a moron who doesn't deserve the freedoms that accompany being an American citizen.

Heh. You're not asserting your civil rights by getting into a pissing match with an officer who has placed you under arrest. Nothing you say is going to make him change his mind and let you go at that point. Assaulting him, even in such a minor way as kicking a shoe at him, is not going to improve your situation. It's almost certain to make your situation worse. My question then is why would someone do any of that? The answer has to be because they know he's probably not going to hit them in the head with his nightstick for it.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
It was an over the top reaction, esp when hes punching her in the head while on her back.

Was it ever comfirmed he struck her in the head? The target of those blows are not visible.