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Sonikku

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They won't do a damn thing about that. I absolutely guarantee it. It is a political impossibility. That is a voting bloc of unmatched power in the United States. You hit that and you sweep the Republicans completely out of power and Republicans realize this.

I wish that were true. But what can't they get away with? The GoP must feel emboldened more than ever. GDP was up, unemployment was down and gas prices didn't explode under Obama. Then the Republicans shut down the government. Voters rewarded them with the senate a year later. This past year they would not so much as grant a hearing to a justice they have plainly admitted they liked. Voters awarded them with the White House.

Gut Social Security and voters might just give them a Senate super majority at this rate. All Ryan has to do is hold this up as "heroic" changes to keep the system viable with the promise to seniors currently on SS that their SS will be left alone, that it is merely their children currently too young to collect that will get the shaft. Bake in a 10 year implementation plan and by the time the doomsday clock hits midnight we're looking at three administrations down the road. Next guy's problem. And worse comes to worse, you throw social issues back into the spotlight and the voters will forget. "Gays marrying! The dems are declaring WAR ON CHRISTIANITY!"
 

Jhhnn

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Grand juries are used to determine if there is probable cause to prosecute. You don't convene a grand jury to prosecute somebody.

Grand juries are presented a case by a prosecutor to obtain an indictment. It never got that far. When Comey recommended that no case be brought it ended right there.
 

MrSquished

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I think it's simple . Trump is more concerned with running his businesses than prosecuting Clinton
 
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What you said at first "Comey said that no responsible prosecutor would bring such a case making convening a grand jury an absurd proposition. "

Comey said "there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information"
An Attorney General can bring this evidence to a Grand Jury at any time until the Statute of Limitations is up and will more than likely get an indictment. The only thing stopping it would be a future President Trumps good will.
 

agent00f

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What you said at first "Comey said that no responsible prosecutor would bring such a case making convening a grand jury an absurd proposition. "

Comey said "there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information"
An Attorney General can bring this evidence to a Grand Jury at any time until the Statute of Limitations is up and will more than likely get an indictment. The only thing stopping it would be a future President Trumps good will.

That Trump is such a swell generous guy.

I'm curious if you're more of a LegendKiller/buckshot or the sort they influence.
 
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The question is whether you're cunning or stupid; appears the latter. Before you protest, the former is not the necessary the better pick.
Stupid is just another appellation that the Trump haters, lefties and the mainstream media apply to anyone that doesn't agree with them. I do like cunning though, i always have.
 

agent00f

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Stupid is just another appellation that the Trump haters, lefties and the mainstream media apply to anyone that doesn't agree with them. I do like cunning though, i always have.

No, you just aren't terribly sharp and rather gullible, and everyone sees that. But don't fret, just start taking lessons in dishonesty from those two & friends, and you too can be an effective propagandist without the benefit of that much intellect.
 
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No, you just aren't terribly sharp and rather gullible, and everyone sees that. But don't fret, just start taking lessons in dishonesty from those two & friends, and you too can be an effective propagandist without the benefit of that much intellect.
Gosh you are so mean. BTW your tears are delicious. *slurp slurp slurp* Can i have some moar?
 

agent00f

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Gosh you are so mean. BTW your tears are delicious. *slurp slurp slurp* Can i have some moar?

You appear to assume other folks' well-being are also reliant on the opinions of some rust belt rednecks.

Or to be more specific, your lot was told by the propagandists to parrot that.
 

bshole

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I wish that were true. But what can't they get away with? The GoP must feel emboldened more than ever. GDP was up, unemployment was down and gas prices didn't explode under Obama. Then the Republicans shut down the government. Voters rewarded them with the senate a year later. This past year they would not so much as grant a hearing to a justice they have plainly admitted they liked. Voters awarded them with the White House.

Gut Social Security and voters might just give them a Senate super majority at this rate. All Ryan has to do is hold this up as "heroic" changes to keep the system viable with the promise to seniors currently on SS that their SS will be left alone, that it is merely their children currently too young to collect that will get the shaft. Bake in a 10 year implementation plan and by the time the doomsday clock hits midnight we're looking at three administrations down the road. Next guy's problem. And worse comes to worse, you throw social issues back into the spotlight and the voters will forget. "Gays marrying! The dems are declaring WAR ON CHRISTIANITY!"

But the man heading the Trump transition team’s Social Security effort? Michael Korbey, a former lobbyist who has spent much of his career advocating for cutting and privatizing the program,according to Yahoo News.

“It’s a failed system, broken and bankrupt,” Korbey said as a lobbyist in the mid 1990s. Korbey acknowledged that some of the reforms his group backed would hurt retirees, but “our constituents aren’t just senior citizens,” he told a newspaper in 1996. A decade later, as a senior adviser to the Social Security Administration, Korbey was a public advocate for the George W. Bush administration’s failed attempt to privatize Social Security.

Paul Ryan, who represents mainstream Republicans, has long advocated privatizing Medicare. That means dissolving the federally guaranteed fee-for-service program and handing fixed subsidies for retirees to buy private insurance? Would these private plans be affordable? It’s not known, since Ryan has never released specific details.

Of for the love of Jesus, Ryan is on about privatizing SS, an idea as functionally retarded as when Bush proposed it. What in the hell is wrong with these guys? This is political suicide for their party AND everything they slash and burn will immediately be restored after they are run out of office on a rail.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwas...ay-cut-social-security-medicare/#2d1e69964e0e
 

agent00f

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Of for the love of Jesus, Ryan is on about privatizing SS, an idea as functionally retarded as when Bush proposed it. What in the hell is wrong with these guys? This is political suicide for their party AND everything they slash and burn will immediately be restored after they are run out of office on a rail.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwas...ay-cut-social-security-medicare/#2d1e69964e0e

They don't care as long as they make out with the loot, just as their followers don't care as long as it breaks after they die, or failing that there are still libtards around to blame for everything.

Common mistake to ascribe virtues you might value onto others.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
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Of for the love of Jesus, Ryan is on about privatizing SS, an idea as functionally retarded as when Bush proposed it. What in the hell is wrong with these guys? This is political suicide for their party AND everything they slash and burn will immediately be restored after they are run out of office on a rail.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwas...ay-cut-social-security-medicare/#2d1e69964e0e

Nothing they do is political suicide any more. Americans have become too partisan.
 

Jhhnn

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What you said at first "Comey said that no responsible prosecutor would bring such a case making convening a grand jury an absurd proposition. "

Comey said "there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information"
An Attorney General can bring this evidence to a Grand Jury at any time until the Statute of Limitations is up and will more than likely get an indictment. The only thing stopping it would be a future President Trumps good will.

You are a true believer, huh? This kind of case hinges on criminal intent or gross negligence. The FBI found neither & would testify to that effect.

There's no substance to it, never was. It's just more Benghazi.
 

Jhhnn

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Of for the love of Jesus, Ryan is on about privatizing SS, an idea as functionally retarded as when Bush proposed it. What in the hell is wrong with these guys? This is political suicide for their party AND everything they slash and burn will immediately be restored after they are run out of office on a rail.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwas...ay-cut-social-security-medicare/#2d1e69964e0e

It's the usual pitch to short sighted greed-

“It’s a failed system, broken and bankrupt,” Korbey said as a lobbyist in the mid 1990s. Korbey acknowledged that some of the reforms his group backed would hurt retirees, but “our constituents aren’t just senior citizens,” he told a newspaper in 1996.

If we're lucky, we all get to be retirees. Or just work 'til we drop, the Repub ideal. Too many boomers are living the latter reality because all they have is SS.
 

bshole

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Nothing they do is political suicide any more. Americans have become too partisan.

But everybody knows that this is just a payoff to the banking industry. It puts TRILLIONS of our dollars into the hands of the most corrupt morally bankrupt asshats in the world. There is no gain to SS beneficiaries, they lose their defined benefit and guaranteed safety blanket and get to pay billions to bankers for the privilege. It makes no utterly sense other than a scheme to enrich the money shufflers on an unprecedented scale in human history.
 

Sonikku

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Everybody knows??

A big part of the electorate thought Trump was endorsed by the Pope because they saw a picture with some text slapped on it shared on Facebook. Most Americans don't have a fucking clue. They don't know how free trade words, they don't even know how the three branches of government work and they damn well don't know the nuts and bolts of social security.
 

bshole

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Everybody knows??

A big part of the electorate thought Trump was endorsed by the Pope because they saw a picture with some text slapped on it shared on Facebook. Most Americans don't have a fucking clue. They don't know how free trade words, they don't even know how the three branches of government work and they damn well don't know the nuts and bolts of social security.

I am starting to get very scared.... can somebody please hold me and tell me that everything will be ok?
 

Thebobo

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Appoint a Independent Counsel with all the necessary resources. Drill down into all the numerous clinton and clinton foundation issues. More then likely she will throw another Rag Doll fit..it will be an exercise in The Rule Of Law and Equal Treatment Under The Law.

Sure as long as we can appoint an Independent Counsel with all the necessary resources to look into the Trump business conflicts and Trump Foundation issues including the rape of the 13 year old girl. More than likely Trump will throw another Twitter fit..it will be an exercise in The Rule Of Law and Equal Treatment Under The Law.

how bout them apples!
 

shady28

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I wish that were true. But what can't they get away with? The GoP must feel emboldened more than ever. GDP was up, unemployment was down and gas prices didn't explode under Obama. Then the Republicans shut down the government. Voters rewarded them with the senate a year later. This past year they would not so much as grant a hearing to a justice they have plainly admitted they liked. Voters awarded them with the White House.

Gut Social Security and voters might just give them a Senate super majority at this rate. All Ryan has to do is hold this up as "heroic" changes to keep the system viable with the promise to seniors currently on SS that their SS will be left alone, that it is merely their children currently too young to collect that will get the shaft. Bake in a 10 year implementation plan and by the time the doomsday clock hits midnight we're looking at three administrations down the road. Next guy's problem. And worse comes to worse, you throw social issues back into the spotlight and the voters will forget. "Gays marrying! The dems are declaring WAR ON CHRISTIANITY!"

Meanwhile, according to the lefties in this recent thread : https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...s-have-controlled-most-of-government.2492608/

State Legislatures, Congress, Governorships and maybe even stuff on the municipal level.

So why isn't everything pretty wonderful by now? Blame Obama for everything?

This election saw an extremely critical populace who literally felt America needed to be made great again. She had faltered the last 8 years, and not just a little, but a lot. Well the Republicans controlled most of it during that time.

How did they fail so miserably? And even more puzzling, maintain control in this election in addition with the Presidency. I thought the liberal media was in cahoots with Dems all across the board, how did they not regain back some control based upon those facts?
 

Jhhnn

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Everybody knows??

A big part of the electorate thought Trump was endorsed by the Pope because they saw a picture with some text slapped on it shared on Facebook. Most Americans don't have a fucking clue. They don't know how free trade words, they don't even know how the three branches of government work and they damn well don't know the nuts and bolts of social security.

What they really don't understand is how easily they're manipulated through social media.

Hell, even Balkan teenagers have found a way to make money from that. Imagine what talented pros can do with it, weaponizing insincerity & building their brand.