Convince me not to sidegrade to an i7-4790k

Dave3000

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I right now have an i7 4930k running at stock settings. I noticed that the 4790k beat the 5960x and 5820k in one of the CPU benchmark results of GTA V posted somewhere on the internet. Also there was a benchmark posted on the internet that showed that X-Plane 10 performs better on a 4790k than a 4960x. However I probably won't be able to get much or nothing at all for my X79 motherboard because a tiny area of the plastic inside the CPU socket looks damaged (have to look closely to notice) but no pins are bent and my system is working fine and I will mention the damage if I list it. At worst no probably no one will want the motherboard because of the damage in the CPU socket. So if I can sell my i7 4930k/motherboard for $360 (after all fees) and buy an i7-4790k and an Asus H97 Plus motherboard for around $410 (after sales tax) would it be worth it? If I can't sell the motherboard and only sell my CPU is it still worth sidegrading? I can probably get about $280-300 for just my CPU after fees.
 

Shmee

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I would just OC the CPU. 6 cores at 4-4.4GHz, depending on the silicon lottery, is still pretty darn good.
 
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Unlocked hex-core i7 and you want to downgrade to a quad... Absolutely a shortsighted idea. Those two extra cores are really going to let that CPU age gracefully with current and upcoming software.
 

Dave3000

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Well I can't even OC my CPU to 3.9 GHz (max stock single core turbo on all core loads) without an issue. At 3.9 GHz sometime my PC will turn back on a few seconds later after I turn it off despite it running stable in Intel Burn Test and Prime 95 for hours. This is with the vcore on Auto which is around 1.19v for my CPU. I can even run these stress tests for hours without issue at 4.2 GHz 1.17v yet starting at 3.9 GHz 1.19v if have this "turning back on" issue when turning off my system.
 

CHADBOGA

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Well I can't even OC my CPU to 3.9 GHz (max stock single core turbo on all core loads) without an issue. At 3.9 GHz sometime my PC will turn back on a few seconds later after I turn it off despite it running stable in Intel Burn Test and Prime 95 for hours. This is with the vcore on Auto which is around 1.19v for my CPU. I can even run these stress tests for hours without issue at 4.2 GHz 1.17v yet starting at 3.9 GHz 1.19v if have this "turning back on" issue when turning off my system.

Then yes, you should sell and sidegrade to an i7-4790k
 

Magic Carpet

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For 15-20% positive difference in ST, but negative difference in MT? Meh, I wouldn't bother. Waste of time.
 

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Well I can't even OC my CPU to 3.9 GHz (max stock single core turbo on all core loads) without an issue. At 3.9 GHz sometime my PC will turn back on a few seconds later after I turn it off despite it running stable in Intel Burn Test and Prime 95 for hours. This is with the vcore on Auto which is around 1.19v for my CPU. I can even run these stress tests for hours without issue at 4.2 GHz 1.17v yet starting at 3.9 GHz 1.19v if have this "turning back on" issue when turning off my system.

Well, there is the much cheaper but probably very stupid option to "break" your CPU through overclocking, buy Intel's overclocking damage replacement warranty, and hopefully get a better chip.

Those voltages seem low for IVB-E, though. My 4670K is at 1.18V, and it obviously is less voltage-hungry than your CPU can be. I usually see people going with 1.3V for standard overclocks on "E" platforms. Perhaps you're being a bit conservative?
 
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PhIlLy ChEeSe

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Well I can't even OC my CPU to 3.9 GHz (max stock single core turbo on all core loads) without an issue. At 3.9 GHz sometime my PC will turn back on a few seconds later after I turn it off despite it running stable in Intel Burn Test and Prime 95 for hours. This is with the vcore on Auto which is around 1.19v for my CPU. I can even run these stress tests for hours without issue at 4.2 GHz 1.17v yet starting at 3.9 GHz 1.19v if have this "turning back on" issue when turning off my system.

Why don't you post your full systems spec's and see if we can help you out with what you have? Worst case we can pin point the main board and suggest different ones. Would you have a photo of the socket damage, or explain it better? No pins are damaged but the plastic is, how? The plastic has no effect on CPU performance, unless it's damaged to a point where the pins are touching or so forth.
 

sm625

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You shouldnt give up 6 cores just to get 5% more performance for some applications.
 

scannall

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Why spend money replacing something that is perfectly fine, when new toys are right around the corner?
 

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Convince me not to sidegrade to an i7-4790k
Every time someone sidegrades like you, a sad panda cries. Please no more sad pandas.

PS: if I were you I would spend my free time attempting a stable oc. By the time you either succeed or just give up, Skylake will likely be here.
 

Dave3000

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I think I'm going to wait for Skylake. Also the Intel Overclock Protection Warranty does not apply to poor overclocking chips that run stable at stock speeds, so if you buy the warranty and end up with a poor overclocker, the warranty won't be honored? My chip is stable at stock speeds for sure.
 

CHADBOGA

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I think I'm going to wait for Skylake. Also the Intel Overclock Protection Warranty does not apply to poor overclocking chips that run stable at stock speeds, so if you buy the warranty and end up with a poor overclocker, the warranty won't be honored? My chip is stable at stock speeds for sure.

If you wait till Skylake and Skylake is pretty good, won't it then rapidly diminish the value of your current setup?
 

Dave3000

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If you wait till Skylake and Skylake is pretty good, won't it then rapidly diminish the value of your current setup?

It probably will but then again I don't expect to get much for my motherboard if anything because of the chipped plastic on the CPU socket anyways. Also I was thinking that it could have be my sound card that was causing the issue because shortly after overclocking it I installed the sound card but later on I returned to stock settings and then I removed the sound card and now I don't have the sound card installed. Maybe I'll save up towards a Titan X instead and sell my 780 Ti. I don't have enough VRAM don't max out GTA V at 1920x1080 according to the VRAM meter in the settings menu in GTA V and almost maxing out the advanced detail distance in the advanced settings causes the game to stutter on my system at times.
 

ninaholic37

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Every time someone sidegrades like you, a sad panda cries. Please no more sad pandas.
Well said. I'm sure pandas would be much happier if every electronics manufacturing station (and roads, etc.) were destroyed and replaced with bamboo.
 

PhIlLy ChEeSe

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Asus Rampage IV Extreme/black? I'm having a hard time seeing the plastic got chipped but the socket is good. What cooler are you using on the CPU?
Can you read the words coming outta my mouth............
 

ehume

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Or save some money and get the 4690K, only $200 at MC. It has for times the cores of what you are using now, and saves money for Skylake-K or Cannonlake-K.