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I know it's fucking hard to do it, but don't pay any attention to Trump's cabinet and confirmation..

Trump is a master as distraction of getting media to put it's focus on something else while he does something quietly in the background.

As terrifying as it sounds.. I want to know what it is he's doing that he needs the cabinet to distract..
 
I am just trying to analyze.. maybe over analyze this loss. The postcast above has made me think of something..

I try and keep aware of fascist governments all over the world as I travel/ like to travel a fair bit and don't want to find myself in the gulag or at the mercy of fascists.. once was enough.

And it occored to me.. something happened in Thailand over the last 20 years. A complete outsider - a former police lieutenant ran an election based on drug corruption and "killing all drug dealers poisoning the blood of the country". He won! I had never heard of him. He came to my attention because he was also rich and managed to buy my favorite football club - Manchester City. His name is Thaksin Shinawatra.

There was a massive crackdown and pogroms against drug dealers.. wouldn't be rare to find people caught with drugs shot in the head and left out to rot and smell to make a point to the public.. drugs and drug dealers are bad!

Ofcourse the opposition didn't like this and when Shinawatra wasn't in the country - infact on a diplomatic foreign visit overseas.. there was a military coup and he was exiled from the country and the army leaders installed their own guy and said Shinawatra is bad etc etc.. there would be no elections for 3 years.

When there were elections again.. he had been blacklisted as a candidate, but his younger sister won a large mandate and continued his programs.

Again there was a coup.. and she was thrown out and they installed their own guy.. and another type of fascist who didn't like the Shinawatra's became the PM. He said he'd keep the peace for 6 months and there would be elections.. but he stayed for 10 years till basically the US forced his hand to having elections.. and he managed to change the constitution that no democratically elected person/ party would have total control. He would still have a vet check on them and then elections were held.

Guess what.. Thaksin Shinawatra's daughter won after he had black listed Thaksin and his sister.

My point is.. why do the people again and again vote for the same type of fascists.. they feel abandoned by the establishment.

To fix this dems are going to have to make inroads with the working class. Jon Stewart's guest is correct.. dems kept on jerking off the "middle class" but didn't mention the working class once. And it's hard for someone who's a blue collar worker to accept that he's going to have to learn to code to cope in today's economy.

And we shouldn't shoot ourselves in the foot.. all these trials against Trump add to his mythical figure. FFS someone tried to shoot the guy with an AR-15 and he survived. That doesn't happen to normal people.. he's more or less a legend and we can do nothing but just wait our time.. get our ducks in a row for when the time comes that he's not there.

Dems simply can't be a coastal party.. there are people in the red states who vote blue but feel invisible. We have to try change hearts and minds there. I still think the best way is to get someone like Jon Stewart and push out the Pelosi wing of the party.
 
This is how it's going to go.

On day one there will be a meeting with all the top generals and military advisors. Everyone that can be replaced with thoroughly vetted sycophants will be replaced.

Any that have not already been vetted and can't just be replaced will be taken one by one into a room with a detained undocumented citizen and their small child or baby. The room will have video monitoring from many different angles but curiously no audio recording.

Someone will negotiate via speakerphone to the person being vetted. Shoot the child, and then the parent, and you pass the test. You are one of us, and oh by the way we have you on video executing innocent people. If you ever decide to even think about stepping out of line, we release the video to the public, have a swift military trial and off to Guantanamo with you forever.

Refuse to execute them, you resign/retire or get fired, and if you ever go to the press with any of this we kill your family with a gas leak or something similar.

They work their way down the ranks and once they pass a certain level of brass the consequences for not complying change. "Good for you! You didn't choose violence. You passed the test! We knew you were one of the good ones. We're reassigning you to a special division."

Once they've gone through all the ranks, the "special division" is sent to the front lines of Russia to help fight the Nazis in Ukraine. Oh dear, the entire division was wiped out, guess we'll have to leave NATO and throw the full might of the US military behind Russia. They'll totally stop at Ukraine though. Wink wink.

What's that? China is taking over most of Asia, the Saudis and Israelis are divying up Africa and the ME, and Brazil is absorbing South America? That's really troubling, but we're really busy now with Nazis who have managed to spread all the way to the British Isles. We can "talk" about those other problems later.
 
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That was Part 1: Foreign Policy. Now for Part 2: Domestic Policy.

Would be really difficult to subjugate the entire nation, right? Wrong. The Trump Healthcare Plan is finally unveiled. He nationalizes the entire healthcare industry including big pharma. Everyone gets free healthcare for life in exchange for one condition: swear fealty to Trump and the GOP. Accept and you get a healthcare ID. Refuse and you don't get the ID and you can no longer get healthcare anywhere in the US. Ever step out of line and you lose your ID. Really, how many Americans are going to resist and risk losing access to any healthcare for themselves and their families?

Done and done.
 
dank69 said:
This is how it's going to go.

On day one there will be a meeting with all the top generals and military advisors. Everyone that can be replaced with thoroughly vetted sycophants will be replaced.

Any that have not already been vetted and can't just be replaced will be taken one by one into a room with a detained undocumented citizen and their shall child or baby. The room will have video monitoring from many different angles but curiously no audio recording.

Someone will negotiate via speakerphone to the person being vetted. Shoot the child, and then the parent, and you pass the test. You are one of us, and oh by the way we have you on video executing innocent people. If you ever decide to even think about stepping out of line, we release the video to the public, have a swift military trial and off to Guantanamo with you forever.

Refuse to execute them, you resign/retire or get fired, and if you ever go to the press with any of this we kill your family with a gas leak or something similar.

They work their way down the ranks and once they pass a certain level of brass the consequences for not complying change. "Good for you! You didn't choose violence. You passed the test! We knew you were one of the good ones. We're reassigning you to a special division."

Once they've gone through all the ranks, the "special division" is sent to the front lines of Russia to help fight the Nazis in Ukraine. Oh dear, the entire division was wiped out, guess we'll have to leave NATO and throw the full might of the US military behind Russia. They'll totally stop at Ukraine though. Wink wink.

What's that? China is taking over most of Asia, the Saudis and Israelis are divying up Africa and the ME, and Brazil is absorbing South America? That's really troubling, but we're really busy now with Nazis who have managed to spread all the way to the British Isles. We can "talk" about those other problems later.
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This place is getting more unhinged by the minute. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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It's a conspiracy thread, it's supposed to be unhinged. You know, like thinking all Democrats are P Diddy and Epstein fans when Trump and Epstein were the ones who partied together.
 
Ok.. what do you think happened here??


1. Abusive boyfriend.
2. Girlfriend had enough of being used to procure drugs.
3. Psycho girlfriend high on drugs.
4. Lovers quarrel.
5. He told her she's a sidechick?

Conspiracy theories anyone??

BTW why are the EMS letting him bleed.. that looks bad like it hit the jugular.
 
I know people really don't like listening to long videos but listen to this at the 19 min mark:


There could be something to this.. and Dems had better learn..
 
I kind of disagree.

It's the same shit that turned Obama into the devil
And made Hillary unelectable devil spawn.
AOC, Kamala etc etc.
It's the propaganda network doing its hit jobs and it's so effen effective it's even infecting the left.

Information warfare and its fucking you over.
 
Socialism/communism* doesn't work.

The reasons it doesn't work are not the one usually given ("people are too selfish"), it's threefold

(a) the absence of a market means a lack of price signals, which means it becomes impossible to efficiently allocate resources, which leads to economic failure, stagnation, and ultimately collapse (especially if there's a competing capitalist country)

(b) the concentration of political power it entails can have horrible consequences, i.e. huge piles of corpses.

(c) the capitalist ruling class is so well-ensconced and so ruthless in maintaining its power, that the only way socialism ever comes about is via a period of catastrophic crisis and social collapse and dislocation - and nothing good ever seems to emerge from such trauma. Put another way, the only people capable of overthrowing that ruthless capitalist ruling class (i.e. the only people sufficiently motivated, disciplined, hard and pitiless to do so) are the very people you _don't_ want in charge after the revolution.


I'm not at all sure to what extent those piles of corpses are due to the second factor vs the third, hence to what degree that is something intrinsic to the nature of socialism or just to the unfortunate contingencies involved in getting to it. The fact that such regimes have varied greatly in how brutal or oppressive they were, suggests the latter might be the greater issue.


I'm much more confident of the first, purely economic, point. That seems to be borne out by every case of 'actual existing socialism'. Socialism leads to economic sclerosis, because modern advanced economies are too complex to be run by central planners. "Price signals" are essential. Capitalism's great advantage is that it's hugely productive and innovative.


However, capitalism is also horrendously unstable, and has a powerful built-in drive towards plutocracy. That means it also is prone to economic failure (just of a different form) and even collapse, and is not ultimately compatible with democracy. It produces plutocrats whose self-serving greed serves to undermine the system itself (their greed is also partially a necessary product of capitalism, not just a matter of individual moral failings, the system demands it and selects for it).

Capitalism would be a great system if humans were less concerned with their individual self-interests and more with the survival of the system as a whole. It's capitalism, not socialism, that requires altruism and that doesn't work because people are too selfish.


The claims of liberals and social-democrats to be able to 'manage' or constrain capitalism and its plutocrats, do not seem to be supported by their actual track record. Plutocrats undermine and defeat such efforts every time (as we are currently seeing all over the world).


A huge irony in that respect is that one means by which capitalism has defeated the attempts to manage and constrain it (despite the fact that such management is necessary for the system to survive) is neoliberalism - which itself was created as an attempt to prevent a repeat of the 1930s era of authoritarianism of left and right.
This was supposed to be achieved by insulating 'the market' from the power of state actors, via deregulation and the like. In practice, though, it's achieved the exact opposite of its purported aim, and has bred a backlash that seems to be heading towards fascism. It may have bought about the very thing it was intended by its intellectual progenitors to prevent.

* the difference in meaning of the two words seems to depend on the ideology of the person using them, but the same points apply to both.
 
I don’t think jumping in socialism with communism is appropriate. I agree with your points on communism but I don’t see how that applies to socialism as only certain industries are public, for the very reasons you point out.

All economic ideologies require a competent non corrupt government. The government is the check on capitalism which allows the most selfishness, not the consumer as some people think. Socialism allows some selfishness so long as it doesn’t hurt the common good (such as a profit being the main motive for an industry like health care).

We have a pretty good system for capitalists and a poorly implemented socialist system.

The problem with capitalism is that it allows for the wealthy and powerful to too easily corrupt the very government that is tasked with keeping them in check.


What this has to do with the previous posts? I have no idea.

As for the China buying bonds in a plot to undermine our influence via dollars, scary! The Trump admin certainly isn’t who I’d want at the helm to navigate this.
 
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