Conservatives ban "science based" and "evidence based" at CDC.

theeedude

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http://thehill.com/news-by-subject/...c-from-using-evidence-based-and-science-based

Senior CDC officials distributed the list of “forbidden” words and phrases to policy analysts at the CDC on Thursday, the Washington Post reported Friday. The list also bans the use of “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender” and “fetus.”

Analysts are reportedly prohibited from using the phrases on official documents they prepare for the 2019 budget, which is expected to be released in February.

This is why conservatism has to be eradicated for America to survive.
 

Paratus

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Man, the tea party really took them over the fucking edge of stupid. It is said that W and Cheney seem down right good compared to what we have today.

This article/opinion piece has some pretty good points.
https://splinternews.com/the-long-lucrative-right-wing-grift-is-blowing-up-in-t-1793944216

if you want to know why they believe so many strange and terrible things, you can basically blame the fact that a large and lucrative industry is dedicated to lying to them.

For years, the conservative movement peddled one set of talking points to the rabble, while its elites consumed a more grounded and reality-based media. The rubes listened to talk radio, read right-wing blogs, watched Fox News. They were fed apocalyptic paranoia about threats to their liberty, racial hysteria about the generalized menace posed by various groups of brown people, and hysterical lies about the criminal misdeeds of various Democratic politicians. The people in charge, meanwhile, read The Wall Street Journal and The Weekly Standard, and they tended to have a better grasp of political reality, as when those sources deceived their readers, it was mostly unintentionally, with comforting fantasies about the efficacy of conservative policies. From the Reagan era through the Bush administration, the system seemed to be performing as designed.

But the complete and inarguable disaster of the Bush administration—a failure of the conservative movement itself, one undeniable even to many consumers of the parallel conservative media—and his abrupt replacement by a black man, caused a national nervous breakdown among the people who’d been told, for many years, that conservatism could not fail, and that all Real Americans agreed with them.

Rather rapidly, two things happened: First, Republicans realized they’d radicalized their base to a point where nothing they did in power could satisfy their most fervent constituents. Then—in a much more consequential development—a large portion of the Republican Congressional caucus became people who themselves consume garbage conservative media, and nothing else.

That, broadly, explains the dysfunction of the Obama era, post-Tea Party freakout. Congressional Republicans went from people who were able to turn their bullshit-hose on their constituents, in order to rile them up, to people who pointed it directly at themselves, mouths open.
 

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SUDDENLY......... BANNON!


Seriously though, the article makes a lot of sense.
I'm a middle class hetero white male and it seems like everyone out there is desperate to make me jump on "their" team but because I never felt the urge to follow the crowd, good or bad, I just cant get into their hateful, angry agenda. I live in northern Virginia and most bars & restaurants I go to have their TV's tuned into Fox on a regular basis. (I won't go into a rant about how I grew up without TV in my neighborhood hangouts.)
I am forced to sit thru that crap while I wait for my food and because I have not yet been brainwashed its pretty easy for me to see how desperate they are and obvious with their pandering. What scares me is millions of middle class whites watch that shit all day every day and actually believe what they're told. We must have a ridiculous amount of simple people in this country if a large chunk of America can be brainwashed so easily.
Every once in a while I find myself dragged into a discussion with a conservative Virginian and their reliance on massive logical fallacies is just appalling. When I stop to think about it, almost every fallacy they use on me is pulled directly from Fox News and quite frankly I am really sick of it.

Really wish we could supplant their lies and nonsense with something else, something more critical and thoughtful, but I am not aware of any conservative group in America that isnt Fox News based. You guys seen one?
 
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Paratus

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SUDDENLY......... BANNON!

A professional and fanatically dedicated purveyor of:
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It’s pretty sad because the in part the measure of a man is his ability to acknowledge the world the way it is.

With the conservatives drive to hide from uncomfortable truths critical research is going to be inhibited. Don’t use the word fetal? Do they not understand how many fetal diseases there are? But by all means let’s not pursue that research because the word fetal makes them feel icky.
 

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The alleged ban only affects the budget documents, allegedly. While I don't have federal budget experience I do have state budget experience and this doesn't seem like a big deal from a practical standpoint.
 

theeedude

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The alleged ban only affects the budget documents, allegedly. While I don't have federal budget experience I do have state budget experience and this doesn't seem like a big deal from a practical standpoint.
Why would conservatives ban those specific words?
 
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shortylickens

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The whole damn article was good shit, but this section of the article really got me thinking:

If the bullshit-peddlers who attached themselves to Trump truly want to remake the nation they’re screwed. They’re screwed because they and their predecessors engineered a perpetual misinformation machine, and then a bunch of people addicted to their product took over the government.
 
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From the article:

The Trump administration has reportedly banned the Centers for Disease Control from using the phrases “evidence-based” and “science-based” on official documents.

Analysts are reportedly prohibited from using the phrases on official documents they prepare for the 2019 budget, which is expected to be released in February.
 

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From the article:

The Trump administration has reportedly banned the Centers for Disease Control from using the phrases “evidence-based” and “science-based” on official documents.

Analysts are reportedly prohibited from using the phrases on official documents they prepare for the 2019 budget, which is expected to be released in February.
Hey, it was you conservatives that stick your head in the sand and deny reality while endangering the whole nation while you do it. Did you expect the asses you left sticking out in the world wouldn't become targets? Did you think liberals would sit around and watch you sink the country farther and farther into the muck and wouldn't be demonized as monsters? You really didn't expect to get what you gave. You chose to be insane enough to drive the left crazy. Get ready for a big swill of your own medicine. You are the new door mat the rest of the world is going to wipe its feet on. We're coming for you with pitch forks. We're going to use them to excise your amygdalae. Better put a light under your bed.
 
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Remember when frauds like Milton Friedman and Bill Buckley were peddling Conservatism as an intellectual movement? At least modern day conservatism has dispensed with that lie.

"I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it." - John Stuart Mill, 1866
 
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From the article:

The Trump administration has reportedly banned the Centers for Disease Control from using the phrases “evidence-based” and “science-based” on official documents.

Analysts are reportedly prohibited from using the phrases on official documents they prepare for the 2019 budget, which is expected to be released in February.


Has the word "reportedly" been redefined by the Trump administration as "fake news" or something? Seriously, doubleplusungood.
 

boomerang

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The rollback of everything 0bama looks to be going pretty smoothly. The progressives are up in arms and some (right here in this thread, too) are making suggestions of murder and mayhem. Pitchforks in the head. Oh my!
We're coming for you with pitch forks. We're going to use them to excise your amygdalae.
Our fear centers are going to make us terminate your fear centers and you are the ones that made us do it! My amygdala is far superior to your amygdala and I've got a pitchfork right here to prove it! LOL!

7 words blacklisted from CDC budget documents: Report

"In the case of “science-based” or “evidence-based,” the analyst said an alternative phrase suggested for use was: “CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes." Some of the other words did not get replacements."

Trump bans CDC from using words like 'transgender,' 'diversity,' and 'entitlement'

The CDC can't use new-speak anymore. Awesome! This can only help them get back to what their core mission is. Hint: It's not social justice.