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Conservatives ask FBI to investigate hotel porn

These conservative groups obviously dislike porn, but here's a thought: Don't watch it. Nobody is being forced to watch it and you can easily have it blocked if you think you'll be tempted into sin. These sort of efforts are aimed at limiting other people's choices and legislating their "morality" on others.

Conservatives ask FBI to investigate hotel porn

NEW YORK (AP) -- Pornographic movies now seem nearly as pervasive in America's hotel rooms as tiny shampoo bottles, and the lodging industry shows little concern as conservative activists rev up a protest campaign aimed at triggering a federal crackdown.


A coalition of 13 conservative groups -- including the Family Research Council and Concerned Women for America -- took out full-page ads in some editions of USA Today earlier this month urging the Justice Department and FBI to investigate whether some of the pay-per-view movies widely available in hotels violate federal and state obscenity laws.

The coalition also is trying to draw attention to CleanHotels.com, a directory of hotels and motels nationwide that pledge to exclude adult offerings from their in-room entertainment service.

Though porn is now cheaply and readily accessible on the Internet, and through many other outlets, the activists chose to target the hotel industry in part because of the well-known brands of corporations that cater to family vacationers as well as business travelers.

"These are places that you take your family -- these are respectable institutions," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. "Anything that brings porn into the mainstream is a concern. It just desensitizes people."

Precise statistics on in-room adult entertainment are hard to come by. By some estimates, adult movies are available in roughly 40 percent of the nation's hotels, representing more than 1.5 million rooms. Industry analysts suggest that these adult offerings generate 60 to 80 percent of total in-room entertainment revenue -- several hundred million dollars a year.

The recent newspaper ad mentioned no hotel companies by name because of legal concerns, but it did target the two major suppliers of in-room adult movies -- South Dakota-based LodgeNet and Denver-based OnCommand, a subsidiary of Liberty Media Corp. The ad accused both companies of distributing hardcore pornography to their hotel clients, and it provided a link to a list of X-rated movie titles.

Spokesmen for OnCommand and Liberty Media declined to comment on the ad, and LodgeNet's spokeswoman did not return calls seeking comment. However, top spokespeople for two of the biggest hotel chains, Hilton and Marriott, defended the policies that make adult movies widely available at their affiliated hotels.

Both Kathy Shepard of Hilton and Roger Conner of Marriott said the bulk of their hotels are operated by franchise-holders who make their own decisions about in-room programming. They made clear, however, that their companies consider adult movies to be an acceptable option because they can be ignored or blocked out by guests not wishing to view them.

"Really ultraconservative groups try to target the hotels in their zest to eliminate porn," Shepard said. "In their zest to have their personal morals prevail, they're eliminating choice for others."

Conner said none of the programming offered by Marriott is illegal, and he depicted adult movies as a standard part of today's hotel business.

"In-room movies are a revenue stream," he said. "This is a business matter."

The leader of the campaign against in-room porn is Phil Burress, a self-described former porn addict who heads the Cincinnati-based Citizens for Community Values.

Burress and his allies have had some success regionally, pressuring about 15 Ohio and Kentucky hotels to stop offering adult movies. But he says a nationwide pressure campaign would be difficult because nearly all the big hotel chains have similar policies -- porn is available at some but not all of their affiliates.

Though unable to cite specific cases, Burress contended that the availability of in-room porn is making hotels more dangerous.

"As more and more of these (hardcore) titles become available, we're going to have sexual abuse cases coming out of the hotels," he said. "Hotels are just as dangerous as environments around strip joints and porn stores."

Burress said he was "cautiously optimistic" that Justice Department officials -- whom he and other anti-porn leaders confer with periodically -- would seriously consider investigating hotel-based pornography.

Justice Department spokesman Bryan Sierra said federal authorities are committed to toughening enforcement of obscenity laws, but he declined to comment on specific targets for investigations.

LodgeNet and OnCommand together provide in-room entertainment to more than 1.8 million hotel room in North America -- with customers that include Sheraton, Hilton, Holiday Inn, Ritz-Carlton, Hyatt, Marriott and Ramada.

The standard in-room packages offered by LodgeNet and OnCommand include adult movies, but they have tried to accommodate hotels preferring a no-porn alternative, according to Shannon Sedgwick Davis, executive director of an association of hotels which don't offer adult movies to guests.

One problem, she said, is that the big hotel chains often have negotiated bulk contracts with the video suppliers that include the adult movies and can be expensive to cancel.

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<insert group> vs Porn, porn wins every battle. Too much money and too many men in the world.

I'm sure Zentroll donated some of his allowance to the cause, that and public breast feeding.
 
The coalition also is trying to draw attention to CleanHotels.com, a directory of hotels and motels nationwide that pledge to exclude adult offerings from their in-room entertainment service.

Wanna bet who the financial backers of this are?
 
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
"In-room movies are a revenue stream," he said. "This is a business matter."

Bahahahahahah Republicans going after Republicans

Hopefully this is a good sign of the wheels coming off the Republican Regime.
 
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
They're too damn busy minding eveybody elses business to mind their own.

Isn't that the truth.
Seriously though, isn't the stuff in hotels PPV? It't not like you go into the hotel room turn on the TV and OMG there is porn. You have to make the choice to actualy purchase and view it.
Creating a website that shows what hotels have no porn at all, if that was what they wanted, like they did, is a good idea. But forcing everyone to conform to their little world view is just plain dumb.
 
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
They're too damn busy minding eveybody elses business to mind their own.

Isn't that the truth.
Seriously though, isn't the stuff in hotels PPV? It't not like you go into the hotel room turn on the TV and OMG there is porn. You have to make the choice to actualy purchase and view it.
Creating a website that shows what hotels have no porn at all, if that was what they wanted, like they did, is a good idea. But forcing everyone to conform to their little world view is just plain dumb.

If it takes religious wackos to rid our society of porn I am all for it. Porn is degrading to the human soul and pollutes the people who participate in its creation. I know, you think that's just my opinion and not a universal truth, but that's just because all you know is opinions and you know nothing of real truth. Porn exists only because people are mentally ill and the one place they are ill more than any other is sexually. If you weren't mentally ill and sexually repressed you would have no interest in porn at all and see it for the sickness it is. It is just another form of violence against human innocence and the perfection we were meant to become. Imagine how Jesus would react to porn and you can get some idea of how sick you are. Sex is a flower that blooms for lovers and isn't about grunting and grinding and other forms of filth. Dirt is what man makes out of his feelings of worthlessness. Sorry, to have to tell you. I know my words to you are like porn to the innocent. But then, you didn't have to read what I said, now did you.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
They're too damn busy minding eveybody elses business to mind their own.

Isn't that the truth.
Seriously though, isn't the stuff in hotels PPV? It't not like you go into the hotel room turn on the TV and OMG there is porn. You have to make the choice to actualy purchase and view it.
Creating a website that shows what hotels have no porn at all, if that was what they wanted, like they did, is a good idea. But forcing everyone to conform to their little world view is just plain dumb.

If it takes religious wackos to rid our society of porn I am all for it. Porn is degrading to the human soul and pollutes the people who participate in its creation. I know, you think that's just my opinion and not a universal truth, but that's just because all you know is opinions and you know nothing of real truth. Porn exists only because people are mentally ill and the one place they are ill more than any other is sexually. If you weren't mentally ill and sexually repressed you would have no interest in porn at all and see it for the sickness it is. It is just another form of violence against human innocence and the perfection we were meant to become. Imagine how Jesus would react to porn and you can get some idea of how sick you are. Sex is a flower that blooms for lovers and isn't about grunting and grinding and other forms of filth. Dirt is what man makes out of his feelings of worthlessness. Sorry, to have to tell you. I know my words to you are like porn to the innocent. But then, you didn't have to read what I said, now did you.

You know what REALLY demonstrates the growing sickness in our society? The oft repeated phrase, "I personally do not like this, therefore it should be banned". Those weren't your words, but that was the message...and that's the basic message of almost every "conservative" group in the country. Don't get me wrong, liberal groups do the same thing, but at least they are honest about it...every time someone calls the Family Research Council a "conservative group", I want to beat them with a dictionary.

But at any rate, my point is that the wall between things I PERSONALLY find unpleasant and the things I think shouldn't be permitted is being disolved at an alarming rate. It's as if the idea of a liberal democracy is being replaced by a totalitarian government decided on by the majority....and the most disturbing part is that a lot of people can't tell the difference. Very few people anymore hold the position that they don't personally like something, but they don't think it should be banned or regulated by the government. Whether it's anti-porn or anti-gay marriage, you'll have to look hard to find someone who is personally conservative who doesn't favor banning one or both of those things...people are becoming more and more unable to seperate their individual views with their views on how society should function.
 
Porn will win every battle. Sex is programmed into our genes. It's more human nature than Jesus.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Porn will win every battle. Sex is programmed into our genes. It's more human nature than Jesus.

But why is this even a battle? It's PPV porn in hotels...if you are really big on Jesus and really don't like porn, don't order it. If you are some lonely business man...go right ahead. That's the beauty of our society, different people can do what works best for them.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
They're too damn busy minding eveybody elses business to mind their own.

Isn't that the truth.
Seriously though, isn't the stuff in hotels PPV? It't not like you go into the hotel room turn on the TV and OMG there is porn. You have to make the choice to actualy purchase and view it.
Creating a website that shows what hotels have no porn at all, if that was what they wanted, like they did, is a good idea. But forcing everyone to conform to their little world view is just plain dumb.

If it takes religious wackos to rid our society of porn I am all for it. Porn is degrading to the human soul and pollutes the people who participate in its creation. I know, you think that's just my opinion and not a universal truth, but that's just because all you know is opinions and you know nothing of real truth. Porn exists only because people are mentally ill and the one place they are ill more than any other is sexually. If you weren't mentally ill and sexually repressed you would have no interest in porn at all and see it for the sickness it is. It is just another form of violence against human innocence and the perfection we were meant to become. Imagine how Jesus would react to porn and you can get some idea of how sick you are. Sex is a flower that blooms for lovers and isn't about grunting and grinding and other forms of filth. Dirt is what man makes out of his feelings of worthlessness. Sorry, to have to tell you. I know my words to you are like porn to the innocent. But then, you didn't have to read what I said, now did you.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Just a notice for all the people out there that think they have the right to judge morality for everyone else: I am heavily armed and willing to fight to the death to protect my rights...rather it's a right to speak freely, carry a weapon, or watch consenting adults do whatever. Be absolutely certain just how important it is to you to be in control of me. It might be the last chocie you ever make.
 
The leader of the campaign against in-room porn is Phil Burress, a self-described former porn addict who heads the Cincinnati-based Citizens for Community Values.
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Though unable to cite specific cases, Burress contended that the availability of in-room porn is making hotels more dangerous.

"As more and more of these (hardcore) titles become available, we're going to have sexual abuse cases coming out of the hotels," he said. "Hotels are just as dangerous as environments around strip joints and porn stores."

Am I the only person that thinks - former porn addict - means this guy can't figure out how to block pop-ups?

I wonder if soft porn is OK? What's the threshold for the hard stuff that leads to crime . . . sex with granny?

I think this guy needs to stay in a better quality of hotel . . .
 
Hell, lets also ban High speed internet access in hotels. Because in stead of paying 14.99 for an hour of spank-o-vision, You can use your laptop to download porn off the internet for free.


And since you can download "in-room" porn in a hotel that has internet access, According to the article and the zealots argument,

"brings porn into the mainstream"

"the availability of in-room porn is making hotels more dangerous"

"we're going to have sexual abuse cases coming out of the hotels"


And its worth these Zealots to fight hotels because

"he activists chose to target the hotel industry in part because of the well-known brands of corporations"


Translation-----------MONEY

 
Personally I would rather watch a porn than hunt down an animal and shoot it with a high powered rifle. Doesnt mean I want to ban hunting.

 
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
They're too damn busy minding eveybody elses business to mind their own.

Isn't that the truth.
Seriously though, isn't the stuff in hotels PPV? It't not like you go into the hotel room turn on the TV and OMG there is porn. You have to make the choice to actualy purchase and view it.
Creating a website that shows what hotels have no porn at all, if that was what they wanted, like they did, is a good idea. But forcing everyone to conform to their little world view is just plain dumb.

If it takes religious wackos to rid our society of porn I am all for it. Porn is degrading to the human soul and pollutes the people who participate in its creation. I know, you think that's just my opinion and not a universal truth, but that's just because all you know is opinions and you know nothing of real truth. Porn exists only because people are mentally ill and the one place they are ill more than any other is sexually. If you weren't mentally ill and sexually repressed you would have no interest in porn at all and see it for the sickness it is. It is just another form of violence against human innocence and the perfection we were meant to become. Imagine how Jesus would react to porn and you can get some idea of how sick you are. Sex is a flower that blooms for lovers and isn't about grunting and grinding and other forms of filth. Dirt is what man makes out of his feelings of worthlessness. Sorry, to have to tell you. I know my words to you are like porn to the innocent. But then, you didn't have to read what I said, now did you.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Just a notice for all the people out there that think they have the right to judge morality for everyone else: I am heavily armed and willing to fight to the death to protect my rights...rather it's a right to speak freely, carry a weapon, or watch consenting adults do whatever. Be absolutely certain just how important it is to you to be in control of me. It might be the last chocie you ever make.

Nobody is in control of you and most certainly not yourself. You believe in the delusion of consenting adults. Nobody consents to porn. It is an economic route available to some who are mentally ill. You can do whatever you like in your mental prison. You are wild about defending your rights because the path to being truly human is closed to you and that is the source of your rage. Have fun with your guns and your fantasy jailers.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
They're too damn busy minding eveybody elses business to mind their own.

Isn't that the truth.
Seriously though, isn't the stuff in hotels PPV? It't not like you go into the hotel room turn on the TV and OMG there is porn. You have to make the choice to actualy purchase and view it.
Creating a website that shows what hotels have no porn at all, if that was what they wanted, like they did, is a good idea. But forcing everyone to conform to their little world view is just plain dumb.

If it takes religious wackos to rid our society of porn I am all for it. Porn is degrading to the human soul and pollutes the people who participate in its creation. I know, you think that's just my opinion and not a universal truth, but that's just because all you know is opinions and you know nothing of real truth. Porn exists only because people are mentally ill and the one place they are ill more than any other is sexually. If you weren't mentally ill and sexually repressed you would have no interest in porn at all and see it for the sickness it is. It is just another form of violence against human innocence and the perfection we were meant to become. Imagine how Jesus would react to porn and you can get some idea of how sick you are. Sex is a flower that blooms for lovers and isn't about grunting and grinding and other forms of filth. Dirt is what man makes out of his feelings of worthlessness. Sorry, to have to tell you. I know my words to you are like porn to the innocent. But then, you didn't have to read what I said, now did you.

You know what REALLY demonstrates the growing sickness in our society? The oft repeated phrase, "I personally do not like this, therefore it should be banned". Those weren't your words, but that was the message...and that's the basic message of almost every "conservative" group in the country. Don't get me wrong, liberal groups do the same thing, but at least they are honest about it...every time someone calls the Family Research Council a "conservative group", I want to beat them with a dictionary.

But at any rate, my point is that the wall between things I PERSONALLY find unpleasant and the things I think shouldn't be permitted is being disolved at an alarming rate. It's as if the idea of a liberal democracy is being replaced by a totalitarian government decided on by the majority....and the most disturbing part is that a lot of people can't tell the difference. Very few people anymore hold the position that they don't personally like something, but they don't think it should be banned or regulated by the government. Whether it's anti-porn or anti-gay marriage, you'll have to look hard to find someone who is personally conservative who doesn't favor banning one or both of those things...people are becoming more and more unable to seperate their individual views with their views on how society should function.

You make the assumption that everything is relative. It isn't. Furthermore, you assume that knowing the truth doesn't also imply knowing you know. Look at a child and tell me you see a porn star. Of course you may is you are deeply perverted, but I think, otherwise, you know what I mean. Remember even one of our Justices said that while porn might be hard to define you know it when you see it. That's because there IS real truth. The danger is not from those who know the truth but from from those who know the truth and don't. You know the difference by their fruits, no?
 
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
The leader of the campaign against in-room porn is Phil Burress, a self-described former porn addict who heads the Cincinnati-based Citizens for Community Values.
--
Though unable to cite specific cases, Burress contended that the availability of in-room porn is making hotels more dangerous.

"As more and more of these (hardcore) titles become available, we're going to have sexual abuse cases coming out of the hotels," he said. "Hotels are just as dangerous as environments around strip joints and porn stores."

Am I the only person that thinks - former porn addict - means this guy can't figure out how to block pop-ups?

I wonder if soft porn is OK? What's the threshold for the hard stuff that leads to crime . . . sex with granny?

I think this guy needs to stay in a better quality of hotel . . .


To quote Chris Rock: "put the dick down"

Porn addict my ass... find yourself a woman and get it over with.
 
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
They're too damn busy minding eveybody elses business to mind their own.

Isn't that the truth.
Seriously though, isn't the stuff in hotels PPV? It't not like you go into the hotel room turn on the TV and OMG there is porn. You have to make the choice to actualy purchase and view it.
Creating a website that shows what hotels have no porn at all, if that was what they wanted, like they did, is a good idea. But forcing everyone to conform to their little world view is just plain dumb.

If it takes religious wackos to rid our society of porn I am all for it. Porn is degrading to the human soul and pollutes the people who participate in its creation. I know, you think that's just my opinion and not a universal truth, but that's just because all you know is opinions and you know nothing of real truth. Porn exists only because people are mentally ill and the one place they are ill more than any other is sexually. If you weren't mentally ill and sexually repressed you would have no interest in porn at all and see it for the sickness it is. It is just another form of violence against human innocence and the perfection we were meant to become. Imagine how Jesus would react to porn and you can get some idea of how sick you are. Sex is a flower that blooms for lovers and isn't about grunting and grinding and other forms of filth. Dirt is what man makes out of his feelings of worthlessness. Sorry, to have to tell you. I know my words to you are like porn to the innocent. But then, you didn't have to read what I said, now did you.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Just a notice for all the people out there that think they have the right to judge morality for everyone else: I am heavily armed and willing to fight to the death to protect my rights...rather it's a right to speak freely, carry a weapon, or watch consenting adults do whatever. Be absolutely certain just how important it is to you to be in control of me. It might be the last chocie you ever make.

I guess you missed his telling last lines. Let me repeat them for you:
I know my words to you are like porn to the innocent. But then, you didn't have to read what I said, now did you.

 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
They're too damn busy minding eveybody elses business to mind their own.

Isn't that the truth.
Seriously though, isn't the stuff in hotels PPV? It't not like you go into the hotel room turn on the TV and OMG there is porn. You have to make the choice to actualy purchase and view it.
Creating a website that shows what hotels have no porn at all, if that was what they wanted, like they did, is a good idea. But forcing everyone to conform to their little world view is just plain dumb.

If it takes religious wackos to rid our society of porn I am all for it. Porn is degrading to the human soul and pollutes the people who participate in its creation. I know, you think that's just my opinion and not a universal truth, but that's just because all you know is opinions and you know nothing of real truth. Porn exists only because people are mentally ill and the one place they are ill more than any other is sexually. If you weren't mentally ill and sexually repressed you would have no interest in porn at all and see it for the sickness it is. It is just another form of violence against human innocence and the perfection we were meant to become. Imagine how Jesus would react to porn and you can get some idea of how sick you are. Sex is a flower that blooms for lovers and isn't about grunting and grinding and other forms of filth. Dirt is what man makes out of his feelings of worthlessness. Sorry, to have to tell you. I know my words to you are like porn to the innocent. But then, you didn't have to read what I said, now did you.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Just a notice for all the people out there that think they have the right to judge morality for everyone else: I am heavily armed and willing to fight to the death to protect my rights...rather it's a right to speak freely, carry a weapon, or watch consenting adults do whatever. Be absolutely certain just how important it is to you to be in control of me. It might be the last chocie you ever make.

Nobody is in control of you and most certainly not yourself. You believe in the delusion of consenting adults. Nobody consents to porn. It is an economic route available to some who are mentally ill. You can do whatever you like in your mental prison. You are wild about defending your rights because the path to being truly human is closed to you and that is the source of your rage. Have fun with your guns and your fantasy jailers.

You're consitent, I'll give you that much....every other post of yours makes sense about half way thru and then you take off on some wild pseudo philosophical tangent.

Care to rephrase the latter half? This is not myspace, you know.

 
LOL Moonbeam is on a roll in this thread! 😛

(Unless, of course, he's actually being serious, in which case I'd suggest he seek psychiatric help because he's kind of mentally fvcked up..)
 
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