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Thump553

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There's an error in the title of this thread. The groups pushing this restricted choice agenda are definately not conservative groups, regardless of what they may claim. True conservatives would blanche at the thought of such government nannying.

They are modern puritans or christian (I assume they claim to be) talibanists, but definately not conservative.

Back in the mid-50's the McCarthy anti-communist witch hunt's public support collapsed when they went too far for most true Americans to handle. I wonder how long these clowns have left?
 
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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Just a notice for all the people out there that think they have the right to judge morality for everyone else: I am heavily armed and willing to fight to the death to protect my rights...rather it's a right to speak freely, carry a weapon, or watch consenting adults do whatever. Be absolutely certain just how important it is to you to be in control of me. It might be the last chocie you ever make.

Jesus - cam you make it through even one thread without boasting about your e-thuggery? It's just laughably pathetic. I take it you were beaten up a lot as a kid?
 

Lemon law

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You have to wonder if these groups are playing both ends against the middle. First they scare hell out of the Hotel industry
and then provide a Republican lobbyist for hire who will be bag men for collecting money for electing Republican Candidates.

Sounds a lot like the Jack Abramoff and Ralph Reed show re run again. Old scam new faces. Maybe the FBI should investigate
them and their motives.
 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: Thump553

Back in the mid-50's the McCarthy anti-communist witch hunt's public support collapsed when they went too far for most true Americans to handle. I wonder how long these clowns have left?

How's Diebold's stock doing?

 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Just a notice for all the people out there that think they have the right to judge morality for everyone else: I am heavily armed and willing to fight to the death to protect my rights...rather it's a right to speak freely, carry a weapon, or watch consenting adults do whatever. Be absolutely certain just how important it is to you to be in control of me. It might be the last chocie you ever make.

Jesus - cam you make it through even one thread without boasting about your e-thuggery? It's just laughably pathetic. I take it you were beaten up a lot as a kid?

You know, DonVito, I appreciate and sympathize with your point to a degree and have seen Mr. Prestidigitation make this point elsewhere too, but I sympathize with his point of view to some degree also. Naturally, I think that anybody who wants to judge him morally has as much right to do so as he has to protest their view of morality and that judgment in and of itself is no excuse for violence or armed response. Where that may become justified, was justified in our own American Revolution, is when that judgment becomes an oppressive force say of law that the people in general have no say in. I would hope we never find ourselves under the Taliban in this free country of ours because nobody would resist them with force if need be.

As I said, we practice moral persuasion by force all the time in this country when we announce what the state will do if we kill. We do so because killing is a violation of individual rights to life. Nobody is jumping up and down to legalize murder because it interferes with our personal morality that each of us should be free to kill whom we like because it's pretty plane to most folk it is a violation of the right to life.

Where the issue becomes sticky is where the violation of individual rights goes invisible due to a lack of consciousness, a motivation not to see the truth. If we were to discover a Mafia organization that specialized in having large numbers of children they would train from birth to engage in child pornography and later on as adults, we would crack such a group for child abuse.

What we will not do is look at ourselves and determine how we contribute to the abuse of children every day by the presence of our own personal violence, our indifference to the poor, the furthering of our disgusting competitive society, etc etc etc. Nope, when the shoe fits we go barefoot and pretend that such children grow up to be consenting adults just like us, because they are us. The abused love abuse and demand it happen to others just as it did to them. We are all vicariously sick, and especially sexually, because the orgasm is the only path we know that takes us toward God. We take our one road to God and turn it into a road to the dump because in our feelings it's where we belong.

So the question I see is this: What is the purpose of law? What laws can properly be defined. Is it fair to say thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife and support that by laws that require modesty, etc? We laugh at the Taliban and their Burkas but we are required to dine out in clothes, no? How dare people tell me I have to go out in public dressed. Hehe, I'm going to shoot the first bloke who tries to stop me from running around in the nude. I want my neighbor's wife to see what I think.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Porn = bad! Another of the big lies from these nut jobs.

"Porn addict" does not represent a problem with porn, but a mental defect in the addictee.

Seems to me like the answer to no porn if you have your family with you in a hotel, is don't let Jimmy or Suzy have control of the TV. Very basic patenting skill.

Right, porn is made for buyers of porn, no, people with sexual problems and hang ups. Can you imagine healthy lovers looking into each others eyes and saying, hey lets watch some porn, I need to think of somebody else to have good sex with you.




He or she is most likely already thinking of someone else when having sex with you.

Human Sexuality 101.
 
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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Just a notice for all the people out there that think they have the right to judge morality for everyone else: I am heavily armed and willing to fight to the death to protect my rights...rather it's a right to speak freely, carry a weapon, or watch consenting adults do whatever. Be absolutely certain just how important it is to you to be in control of me. It might be the last chocie you ever make.

I take it you were beaten up a lot as a kid?

Yuppers. :cool:

My statement remains valid however.
 

Rangoric

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Porn = bad! Another of the big lies from these nut jobs.

"Porn addict" does not represent a problem with porn, but a mental defect in the addictee.

Seems to me like the answer to no porn if you have your family with you in a hotel, is don't let Jimmy or Suzy have control of the TV. Very basic patenting skill.

Right, porn is made for buyers of porn, no, people with sexual problems and hang ups. Can you imagine healthy lovers looking into each others eyes and saying, hey lets watch some porn, I need to think of somebody else to have good sex with you.

Clearly you've never heard of watching it with your significant other to get ideas...the same old sex isn't the only thing out there ya know ;)

IIRC, there's some Christian group out there that caters to MARRIED couples looking to add some cayenne to their sex life . . . and I ain't talkin' about Porsche.

I certainly have heard of it. It's a common excuse trotted out to justify watching porn. I would suggest that if you are having ideas about having sex while you are having sex it's because you are not there. Sex isn't something that causes thinking it's something that makes the thinker disappear. The body is a sex machine when the thinker isn't there, a machine that is infinitely creative and never bored or jaded. For the lover there is only the beloved. Who would have sex with a manual in ones hand. And sex is not a performance. It is the cherry on the banana split of love.

Oh my Beloved, wherever I look it appears to be Thou. You are the be all and end all of spice. I am the moth that dies in your flame.

Here is sopmeone who failed to comprehend what was said in what they quoted.

Noone uses a manual while having sex, its before hand to get new ideas to try. Because not only are some people just rather uncreative, but they are downright stuck in their ways unless some entity suggests something different.

If your facade was true then nobody would need therapy for anything. Because obviously all they need is themself. And philosophy would be something fogotten about ages ago since everyone is equally creative.

Sex is a performance. If it wasn't, missionary is all that would ever happen. Anything more is to show your partner something or drive your partner to something.

All in all, I find your posts to be rather funny. In a fashion :)
 

Lemon law

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Another way to look at it is to realise who is watching. Its often that hetrosexual male on a business trip---or the salesman who spend the week on the road talking to clients by day
while his wife and kids are at home. And in the evening there is nothing to do. So would we rather he spend his time and money in the hotel bar where he might meet and hire a lady of the evening to distract him from missing his wife---and then maybe bring home some std to his wife----or would we rather he spend some time watching some porno, so when he comes home to his wife, he might have some fresh passion and ideas to remind her how much she misses him. Might even make his next week on the road more bearable for both of them. Of course, who knows what the wife watches after the kids are in bed.

Of course the do gooder will point out that he can just read that bible the Gidions so thoughtfully provided----who knows, maybe he did----but with all that begating and knowing thy neighbor---maybe it started out that way---and later he just decided to watch the audio video talking book version instead.
 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Do any of these hotels offer interspecies erotica?

Hmm...you may be onto something.

Somebody better send Santorum to go investigate!
 

Future Shock

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Do any of these hotels offer interspecies erotica?


On a factual basis, no. Interspecies erotica and pedoephilia are never shown on hotel porn, nor is serious fetish video. It is very white bread, usually even edited to omit the "money shot", and in many hotel chains, direct shots of below the waist genitailia. Many porn makers now edit two versions of their production, one that has it all, and one that is for re-broadcast to the hotel industry.

I spent 8 years living in hotels on business. Hotel porn is some of the weakest excuse for entertainment - but my gf at the time FAR preferred me upstairs in my room watching that than being downstairs at the hotel bar meeting people, as someone has observed here before. For that matter, she far preffered me at a strip club with my consulting buddies, knowing that I would never touch a professional sex worker.

It's easy stuff to decry, but until you live out of a hotel for 4 nights a week, week after week, year after year, you really aren't in a position to understand it's use, let alone criticize it...

Future Shock
 

Moonbeam

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Rangoric:

Here is sopmeone who failed to comprehend what was said in what they quoted.

Noone uses a manual while having sex, its before hand to get new ideas to try. Because not only are some people just rather uncreative, but they are downright stuck in their ways unless some entity suggests something different.

Moonbeam: This has nothing to do with lack of creativity. It has to do with sexual inhibition and performance fears. You are suggesting a person with the flu change beds occasionally because he has problems because he stays in one. One position or a hundred, what difference does it make if you are sexually hung up. You look at symptoms and can't see deeper to causation and cures.

R: If your facade was true then nobody would need therapy for anything. Because obviously all they need is themself. And philosophy would be something fogotten about ages ago since everyone is equally creative.

M: I don't really know what you are trying to say here so I will respond to what I think you mean. It is because what I say IS true that we need therapy to find the true self. Yes philosophy has been forgotten about by Knowers.

R: Sex is a performance. If it wasn't, missionary is all that would ever happen. Anything more is to show your partner something or drive your partner to something.

M: Hehe, you are probably, hopefully, young and therefore ignorant. For you sex is a three ring circus act. You are not talking about sex that involves love because for you it's a deal. You have a job to do to please your partner and are keeping score, thinking about your ratings. So sad. Your sex is full of fear. Impotence is where that will lead.

R: All in all, I find your posts to be rather funny. In a fashion

M: Sadly I find yours to be tragic.
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Lemon law:

Another way to look at it is to realise who is watching. Its often that hetrosexual male on a business trip---or the salesman who spend the week on the road talking to clients by day
while his wife and kids are at home. And in the evening there is nothing to do. So would we rather he spend his time and money in the hotel bar where he might meet and hire a lady of the evening to distract him from missing his wife---and then maybe bring home some std to his wife----or would we rather he spend some time watching some porno, so when he comes home to his wife, he might have some fresh passion and ideas to remind her how much she misses him. Might even make his next week on the road more bearable for both of them. Of course, who knows what the wife watches after the kids are in bed.

Of course the do gooder will point out that he can just read that bible the Gidions so thoughtfully provided----who knows, maybe he did----but with all that begating and knowing thy neighbor---maybe it started out that way---and later he just decided to watch the audio video talking book version instead.

M: Porn probably keeps a lot of people home so they don't commit murder. Isn't porn a fine thing. Your argument has all the appearances of reason and yet manages to be absurd. You also ignore the fact that porn is produced by the sick who are maintained in their illness by lustful eyes, no? :) Porn is great when your brain is compartmentalized. And when you respect your wife you don't have sex with other women. You fail to note also, the total artificiality of life in a hotel caused by the fact that we have made life insane. You also fail to account for previous points I've made, for example, regarding the do-gooder. There are those so full of fear they need everybody to be the same, and those so free of it as to know their own joy. You may not know that we are all the same and that joy is a state of being entered into via consciousness. There is no your way to joy and my way to joy. There is a Big Joy that belongs to all man and it is the same.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Conservatives are against this, yet they still run Fox. And where do you go for some of the least-family friendly programming available on prime-time TV? :)Thaaaaaat's right.


not al lof us are against porn:)

Ok, ok, I apologize. I wasn't specific enough.

Extremist conservatives are against this, yet they still run Fox.

That is more accurate.



Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Gosh Mom, you mean you used to suck big dicks and put them up your ass and wipe the cum on your pussy in front of a camera and that's how you got pregnant with me. Wow, I can't wait to show my daughter my really really baby pictures.

Now Moonbeam, if you want to properly enjoy porn you've got to compartmentalize. That's not your Mom and daughter and sister in that scene, it's a body and a thing. It's a dehumanized fantasy to stimulate your dick because you are emotionally dead and need that unifying orgasm to tell you you're alive.
Why can't public figures give speeches that are more like this?
 

imported_Tango

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Rangoric:

Here is sopmeone who failed to comprehend what was said in what they quoted.

Noone uses a manual while having sex, its before hand to get new ideas to try. Because not only are some people just rather uncreative, but they are downright stuck in their ways unless some entity suggests something different.

Moonbeam: This has nothing to do with lack of creativity. It has to do with sexual inhibition and performance fears. You are suggesting a person with the flu change beds occasionally because he has problems because he stays in one. One position or a hundred, what difference does it make if you are sexually hung up. You look at symptoms and can't see deeper to causation and cures.

R: If your facade was true then nobody would need therapy for anything. Because obviously all they need is themself. And philosophy would be something fogotten about ages ago since everyone is equally creative.

M: I don't really know what you are trying to say here so I will respond to what I think you mean. It is because what I say IS true that we need therapy to find the true self. Yes philosophy has been forgotten about by Knowers.

R: Sex is a performance. If it wasn't, missionary is all that would ever happen. Anything more is to show your partner something or drive your partner to something.

M: Hehe, you are probably, hopefully, young and therefore ignorant. For you sex is a three ring circus act. You are not talking about sex that involves love because for you it's a deal. You have a job to do to please your partner and are keeping score, thinking about your ratings. So sad. Your sex is full of fear. Impotence is where that will lead.

R: All in all, I find your posts to be rather funny. In a fashion

M: Sadly I find yours to be tragic.
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Lemon law:

Another way to look at it is to realise who is watching. Its often that hetrosexual male on a business trip---or the salesman who spend the week on the road talking to clients by day
while his wife and kids are at home. And in the evening there is nothing to do. So would we rather he spend his time and money in the hotel bar where he might meet and hire a lady of the evening to distract him from missing his wife---and then maybe bring home some std to his wife----or would we rather he spend some time watching some porno, so when he comes home to his wife, he might have some fresh passion and ideas to remind her how much she misses him. Might even make his next week on the road more bearable for both of them. Of course, who knows what the wife watches after the kids are in bed.

Of course the do gooder will point out that he can just read that bible the Gidions so thoughtfully provided----who knows, maybe he did----but with all that begating and knowing thy neighbor---maybe it started out that way---and later he just decided to watch the audio video talking book version instead.

M: Porn probably keeps a lot of people home so they don't commit murder. Isn't porn a fine thing. Your argument has all the appearances of reason and yet manages to be absurd. You also ignore the fact that porn is produced by the sick who are maintained in their illness by lustful eyes, no? :) Porn is great when your brain is compartmentalized. And when you respect your wife you don't have sex with other women. You fail to note also, the total artificiality of life in a hotel caused by the fact that we have made life insane. You also fail to account for previous points I've made, for example, regarding the do-gooder. There are those so full of fear they need everybody to be the same, and those so free of it as to know their own joy. You may not know that we are all the same and that joy is a state of being entered into via consciousness. There is no your way to joy and my way to joy. There is a Big Joy that belongs to all man and it is the same.



Wait.. he is NOT joking...
 

Trippytiger

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I know that human beings live better in the light and air than they do in dank caves. They get more being joy that way. He who knows about being joy likes to share the news, no? And don't you just hate it how society stuffs their morals down people's throat every time they put somebody away for murder. How dare those moralistic pigs lock me up. Where do they get off?

Not in hotel rooms, I guess.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
You know what REALLY demonstrates the growing sickness in our society? The oft repeated phrase, "I personally do not like this, therefore it should be banned". Those weren't your words, but that was the message...and that's the basic message of almost every "conservative" group in the country. Don't get me wrong, liberal groups do the same thing, but at least they are honest about it...every time someone calls the Family Research Council a "conservative group", I want to beat them with a dictionary.

But at any rate, my point is that the wall between things I PERSONALLY find unpleasant and the things I think shouldn't be permitted is being disolved at an alarming rate. It's as if the idea of a liberal democracy is being replaced by a totalitarian government decided on by the majority....and the most disturbing part is that a lot of people can't tell the difference. Very few people anymore hold the position that they don't personally like something, but they don't think it should be banned or regulated by the government. Whether it's anti-porn or anti-gay marriage, you'll have to look hard to find someone who is personally conservative who doesn't favor banning one or both of those things...people are becoming more and more unable to seperate their individual views with their views on how society should function.

Well said sir :thumbsup:
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Gosh Mom, you mean you used to suck big dicks and put them up your ass and wipe the cum on your pussy in front of a camera and that's how you got pregnant with me.

Wow, I can't wait to show my daughter my really really baby pictures.

Nomination for best P&N post of the year :thumbsup:
 

LumbergTech

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banning videos wont get to the root of the reason why so many people are abused in this industry though...
 

halik

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Gosh Mom, you mean you used to suck big dicks and put them up your ass and wipe the cum on your pussy in front of a camera and that's how you got pregnant with me.

Wow, I can't wait to show my daughter my really really baby pictures.

Nomination for best P&N post of the year :thumbsup:

Whoa, I think someone needs to spend some money and work out childhood issues. I guess that's one reason to not like porn...
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
banning videos wont get to the root of the reason why so many people are abused in this industry though...

Who are you to say people that choose to work in that indistry are abused?

Are you God watching over them and must ban all porn?
 

marincounty

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I could give a ****** about the lousy porn-for $10 or $12 a movie, bring your laptop if you must. What I want the FBI to investigate is the mini-bar pricing!
 

LumbergTech

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
banning videos wont get to the root of the reason why so many people are abused in this industry though...

Who are you to say people that choose to work in that indistry are abused?

Are you God watching over them and must ban all porn?


I didnt say that it was a requirement, just that is very common...a lot of the top stars have admitted they were molested or raped.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
banning videos wont get to the root of the reason why so many people are abused in this industry though...

Who are you to say people that choose to work in that indistry are abused?

Are you God watching over them and must ban all porn?


I didnt say that it was a requirement, just that is very common...a lot of the top stars have admitted they were molested or raped.



Yes, and no doubt some of them by Priests, so let's ban the Church as well. Makes as much sense.

btw, LumbergTech, I'm, not dissing your post...this is just a corollary argument.