Conservative Have Larger Fear Center!

Perknose

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http://www.salon.com/books/neurosci...itics/war_room/2010/12/29/conservative_brains

Neuroscience says so! :p

Specifically, the research shows that people with conservative tendencies have a larger amygdala and a smaller anterior cingulate than other people. The amygdala -- typically thought of as the "primitive brain" -- is responsible for reflexive impulses, like fear. The anterior cingulate is thought to be responsible for courage and optimism. This one-two punch could be responsible for many of the anecdotal claims that conservatives "think differently" from others.

So . . . conservatives have a larger "primitive brain" and smaller "courage and optimism" center.

This is SCIENCE, bitch, and it explains a lot. :hmm:

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OCGuy

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Seeing how most people can't even correctly identify what "conservative" or "liberal" even means, along with the fact that definition is fluid depending on where you live.....


I'm calling BS.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala

The amygdalae also are involved in the modulation of memory consolidation. Following any learning event, the long-term memory for the event is not instantaneously formed. Rather, information regarding the event is slowly assimilated into long-term storage over time (the duration of long-term memory storage can be life-long), a process referred to as memory consolidation, until it reaches a relatively permanent state.

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The amygdalae, especially the basolateral nuclei, are involved in mediating the effects of emotional arousal on the strength of the memory for the event, as shown by many laboratories including that of James McGaugh. These laboratories have trained animals on a variety of learning tasks and found that drugs injected into the amygdala after training affect the animals' subsequent retention of the task. These tasks include basic classical conditioning tasks such as inhibitory avoidance, where a rat learns to associate a mild footshock with a particular compartment of an apparatus, and more complex tasks such as spatial or cued water maze, where a rat learns to swim to a platform to escape the water. If a drug that activates the amygdalae is injected into the amygdalae, the animals had better memory for the training in the task.[12] If a drug that inactivates the amygdalae is injected, the animals had impaired memory for the task.
Despite the importance of the amygdalae in modulating memory consolidation, however, learning can occur without it, though such learning appears to be impaired, as in fear conditioning impairments following amygdalar damage.[13]
I'll agree with this study... the bolded part seems to confirm the smaller amygdala of liberals. :p

This came out a few days ago, coincidentally:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101226/ap_on_sc/us_sci_social_brain


Study Ties Brain Structure to Socializing

NEW YORK – Do you spend time with a lot of friends? That might mean a particular part of your brain is larger than usual.
It's the amygdala, which lies deep inside. [COLOR=#366388 ! important][COLOR=#366388 ! important]Brain [COLOR=#366388 ! important]scans[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] of 58 volunteers in a preliminary study indicated that the bigger the amygdala, the more friends and family the volunteers reported seeing regularly.

Proves beyond any doubt that liberals are anti-social degenerates.
 
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Nebor

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Uh, there's a whole sub-field of science that studies the choices of people that are risk averse. I believe it's called quantum physics.
 

boomerang

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So, what can further extrapolate from this?

- Conservatives have no courage, which means all the courageous soldiers in the world are progressives. Those war mongering, baby killers!

-Conservatives have larger amygdalas which accounts for their fear of terrorism. But the fear of global catastrophic weather, acid rain, DDT, freon, the Zeitgeist, inside jobs, the patriot act, carbon dioxide, sugar, salt, Wal-Mart, alar, non-unions, prayer in school, SUV’s, guns, cul-de-sacs, pesticides, the white nuclear family, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, black conservatives, job performance testing, David Horowitz lecture tours, Fox News, drawing Mohammad etc. remains a mystery to researchers.

-conservatives like to plan based on the worst-case scenario, while liberals tend towards rosier outlooks which is a fancy way of saying that conservatives are more responsible for their actions, while liberals do not care about, nor try to foresee, the consequences of their dumbass theories.

From here:

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=51327

Now this...should be one fun thread! :D
 

OCGuy

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I heard a lot of fear from the Libtards on this forum recently..I am trying to figure out when........

"Bush to attack Iran"

"Bush to cancel elections"

"Scary black rifles!!"

Oh my!!!!
 

Moonbeam

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Yup, it's the reptile brain which explains why conservatives have the empathy of lizards.
 

Moonbeam

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Did I mention what happens when something touches fear? Right, rage happens then.

Rage is the face of denial that one is afraid.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Did I mention what happens when something touches fear? Right, rage happens then.

Rage is the face of denial that one is afraid.
Guess what happens when I tell liberals that I don't wholly buy into the idea of climate change that Gore and the UN try to sell to us.
 

JSt0rm

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This thread is now about the climate and how republicans aren't afraid of sciencey stuff.
 

umbrella39

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Craig234

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This is interesting. I've discussed before the notable correlation between conservatives and fear, but thought it was just a thought process, but this makes sense.

There are a lot of very confused posts so far on this, mistaking the issue.

For example, when the scientific community warns of global climate change, it's the rational who evaluate and agree with the concerns.

It's the right-wingers who are paranoid and fearful of the scientists.

Note the constant message from the right - who are wrong 95% of the time about liberals here - who are always posting fearful straw men of liberals.

This makes them all too easy to manipulate, like mice into traps.
 

DucatiMonster696

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So, what can further extrapolate from this?

Quote:
- Conservatives have no courage, which means all the courageous soldiers in the world are progressives. Those war mongering, baby killers!

-Conservatives have larger amygdalas which accounts for their fear of terrorism. But the fear of global catastrophic weather, acid rain, DDT, freon, the Zeitgeist, inside jobs, the patriot act, carbon dioxide, sugar, salt, Wal-Mart, alar, non-unions, prayer in school, SUV’s, guns, cul-de-sacs, pesticides, the white nuclear family, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, black conservatives, job performance testing, David Horowitz lecture tours, Fox News, drawing Mohammad etc. remains a mystery to researchers.

-conservatives like to plan based on the worst-case scenario, while liberals tend towards rosier outlooks which is a fancy way of saying that conservatives are more responsible for their actions, while liberals do not care about, nor try to foresee, the consequences of their dumbass theories.

From here:

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=51327

Now this...should be one fun thread! :D

Ahahahaaaaa.... you just smashed the circle jerk.
 

Craig234

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To clarify the point - this is the difference between the brain driving fear excessively, and reasonable concern/fear based on rational reason.

This is why 'pals around with terrorists' or 'the gay agenda' are effective messages for the right, because it appeals to their fear button. OH MY GOSH oppose that.

On the other hand, the left tends not to have nearly as much of this - a bit - but it's based on more rational reasons usually.

Being afraid of the Republicans having unnecessary wars or destroying the economy for everyone but the rich isn't emotion-caused hysteria, it's based on rational reason.

They might not always be right, but the fear is usually based more on reason - so if Iran isn't attacked, it isn't because there wasn't good reason to suspect it was likely.

The whole "they're brainwashing us with flouride in the water!!" and "there are commies in our government out to get us!!" stuff is for the right.

The superhighway from Mexico to Canada - actually a touch of reason to suspect it, but apparently based on nothing but paranoia over a Texas road bill.

Speaking of Texas, there was that whole 'drug cartels took over two ranches' story that was apparently a total lie, but got national press.

This is why terrorism fits perfectly - while the US amazingly hasn't had one terrorist attack in 10 years - and I've discussed the need to accept some attacks without destroying our country in response - it's an ongoing permanent 'fear' button that says 'VOTE REPUBLICAN ONLY THEY CAN PROTECT YOU'. American values like appreciation of diversity and avoiding over-generalizing about groups? Fear kinds prevents it.

It's why on issue after issue Republicans do worse than Democrats, the fear messaging still has people thinking the Republican are the party for them.

It helps explain the difficulty of rationally resolving these issues.

What was the civil rights movement for many on the right? Fear of black power, and fear of the big evil federal government forcing desegregation on states.

Not something to celebrate about the evil of racism in our country being reduced so we could champion our values of 'liberty for all' - but after the fact when it was done, and the country wasn't burned to the ground, and they didn't have so much fear, why they were happy to say how great the US for the movement. (Now, I'm talking about many voters here mostly - to their credit, a good number of Republicans in Congress, out of the south, voted with non-southern Democrats for the change).

It's been a question why fear, even ridiculous, is so effective with Republicans in many cases (there are other types more rational), and this may be an indication.

Even the link to right-wing religious movements, who are filled with fear messages.

Unfortunately, they're only as good as the things they're told to be afraid of, so the progressive fighting for their benefit is terrifying, while the corporate tyranny is not.

And it helps explain why Liberals, who are not so much about fear, have found it frustrating that calm rational messaging hasn't gotten through much.

And they have a hard time getting through the hugely funded propaganda of the right.

This is why if 0.8% of households are actually affected by the estate tax, polls show - I forget the number, but maybe 40% think they are.

It's why higher taxes on the most wealth at a time the wealthy are skyrocketing their share of wealth, that would benefit them, scares them as big government after them.

And it helps explain why the right has been against so many issues of progress in the country initially, and then praises them after they're in place.

Blacks in the military integrated? That was long ago, and it's great. Gays in the military? Don't have that, fear says oppose it. Gay marriage, the same.

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Genx87

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I heard a lot of fear from the Libtards on this forum recently..I am trying to figure out when........

"Bush to attack Iran"

"Bush to cancel elections"

"Scary black rifles!!"

Oh my!!!!

Apparently they are really conservatives.
 

bamacre

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Seeing how most people can't even correctly identify what "conservative" or "liberal" even means, along with the fact that definition is fluid depending on where you live.....


I'm calling BS.

I was thinking the same. What exactly do they mean by "conservative?"
 

Moonbeam

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Guess what happens when I tell liberals that I don't wholly buy into the idea of climate change that Gore and the UN try to sell to us.

I am a liberal. Let me tell you what happens when you say that to me. My first reaction is, 'I wonder what he means by doesn't wholly buy into?'. I also usuall don't wholly buy into much of anything.
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In regards to liberals playing the fear card, remember that if I play a card and you react with fear, I didn't play the fear card, you turned my card into your fears. What is is. How you react to what is is who YOU are.