(Confirmed) Vote Tampering In North Carolina

[Brainonska511]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7e1948d55f4_story.html?utm_term=.f6c20ca078b4

Investigators are also scrutinizing unusually high numbers of absentee ballots cast in Bladen County, in both the general election and the May 8 primary, in which Harris defeated incumbent Rep. Robert Pittenger (R) by 828 votes. In the primary, Harris won 96 percent of all absentee ballots in Bladen, a far higher percentage than his win in the county overall — a statistic that this week is prompting fresh accusations of fraud.
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Gerry Cohen, an election law expert who used to work for the state legislature, said he found one precinct in Bladen County in which the results seemed odd. In that precinct, called Bladenboro 2, 159 people voted by mail — 18 Democrats, 32 Republicans and 109 unaffiliated. Only four were African American.

In that same precinct, 156 requested absentee ballots but never returned them, Cohen said.

Seems like there may actually be a real case of voting fraud in North Carolina, but it looks like another case where voter ID would not have fixed the problem.

 

[Paratus]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7e1948d55f4_story.html?utm_term=.f6c20ca078b4



Seems like there may actually be a real case of voting fraud in North Carolina, but it looks like another case where voter ID would not have fixed the problem.

North Carolina? I am jacks complete lack of surprise.

 

[Maxima1]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7e1948d55f4_story.html?utm_term=.f6c20ca078b4



Seems like there may actually be a real case of voting fraud in North Carolina, but it looks like another case where voter ID would not have fixed the problem.

The fix is in.

 

[Brainonska511]

The fix is in.

Perhaps you should read the article.

 

[DrDoug]

The fix is in.

Hmmm, from what I see those numbers you posted have absolutely nothing to do with the issue. Here, read this and try again. Focus on the percentage of votes by absentee ballot in Bladen County (22%) and the percentage the rising star conservative in the primary race won of those absentee votes (96%) compared to the vote percentage they got via regular voting (62%). Next, note the next closest county whose voters used absentee ballots (Mecklenberg County @ 1.6%).

Do you want to try again using something in the story that is relevant to make your point, or do you want to deflect with something else that is irrelevant?

 

[Maxima1]

Hmmm, from what I see those numbers you posted have absolutely nothing to do with the issue. Here, read this and try again. Focus on the percentage of votes by absentee ballot in Bladen County (22%) and the percentage the rising star conservative in the primary race won of those absentee votes (96%) compared to the vote percentage they got via regular voting (62%). Next, note the next closest county whose voters used absentee ballots (Mecklenberg County @ 1.6%).

Do you want to try again using something in the story that is relevant to make your point, or do you want to deflect with something else that is irrelevant?

Why is it not related? It's speculated from the statistical oddity that the Republican candidate is getting more votes than they should in Bladen County. My half serious post was pointing out that Bladen County is the only one that didn't see a medium/large shift to the Democrats.

 

[DrDoug]

Why is it not related? It's speculated from the statistical oddity that the Republican candidate is getting more votes than they should in Bladen County. My half serious post was pointing out that Bladen County is the only one that didn't see a medium/large shift to the Democrats.

If your post was to back up the assertion of the article then you have my sincere apology. That's not the way it comes across to be, thus my response.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Absentee votes illegally collected and destroyed in effort to deny minority votes.

Ballots cannot be collected legally in this manner but it was done and the result is that there was a huge disparity between the norm and the post-election fraud results.

The election should be rerun in this district with intense federal oversight.

 

[dank69]

Absentee votes illegally collected and destroyed in effort to deny minority votes.

Ballots cannot be collected legally in this manner but it was done and the result is that there was a huge disparity between the norm and the post-election fraud results.

The election should be rerun in this district with intense federal oversight.

That is actually good news. The precedent is now set for throwing all votes for Republicans in the garbage where they belong.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

That is actually good news. The precedent is now set for throwing all votes for Republicans in the garbage where they belong.

We should send in the UN to supervise elections as the Reps have objectively denied voters by illegal means.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Pretty good representation of the situation

 

[K1052]

Ah NC. The House popular vote margin was like 2% and the Dems ended up with 3 seats and the GOP 10 because the state is insanely gerrymandered.

Why not just depose elected democrats with the state guard units at this point? It would be more efficient and honest.

 

[VRAMdemon]

It looks like some folks were going to black neighborhoods and telling folks their registration had been dropped. They were encouraged to register for an absentee ballot. Then someone came by the neighborhood to pick up the absentee ballots and turn them in, offering to finish filling the ballots out for them.

The elections board is getting ready to be dissolved, due to these Republican shenanigans; and the board, which unanimously chose not to certify the race, is being accused of partisan bias by the head of the state's GOP, despite being 4/4/1 Democratic/Republican/Independent. WTF...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It looks like some folks were going to black neighborhoods and telling folks their registration had been dropped. They were encouraged to register for an absentee ballot. Then someone came by the neighborhood to pick up the absentee ballots and turn them in, offering to finish filling the ballots out for them.

The elections board is getting ready to be dissolved, due to these Republican shenanigans; and the board, which unanimously chose not to certify the race, is being accused of partisan bias by the head of the state's GOP, despite being 4/4/1 Democratic/Republican/Independent. WTF...

Expect lawsuits galore and trips to the SCOTUS over that.

 

[trenchfoot]

Hey, if true, the Repubs gave it a trick bank shot at preserving their dominance in the South. This ain't noth'in new, nor is it the worst they've managed to do against free and fair elections. I mean, in their minds there is no such thing as free and fair elections since the day African Americans were allowed to vote. From then on it was all's fair in love and voting, the epitome of it all being when "Voter's rights Acts" enacted by the Repubs became such a popular weapon of choice to suppress and deny that which is guaranteed to ALL Americans, except of course if you just so happen to be a person who tends to vote Democrat and definitely not the "Old Democrats" when wearing bleached white poncho's and matching tall pointy hats were all the rage.

I've always been of the belief that whenever the Repubs get nabbed for some nefarious stunt they thought they could get away with is always the tip of the 'ol toxic iceberg. In this particular case though, and again, more likely than not, little did they know their cute little ploy would look more like a bull moose standing in the middle of rush hour freeway traffic after voter stats were compiled.

No harm in trying though, right?

 

[dank69]

It looks like some folks were going to black neighborhoods and telling folks their registration had been dropped. They were encouraged to register for an absentee ballot. Then someone came by the neighborhood to pick up the absentee ballots and turn them in, offering to finish filling the ballots out for them.

The elections board is getting ready to be dissolved, due to these Republican shenanigans; and the board, which unanimously chose not to certify the race, is being accused of partisan bias by the head of the state's GOP, despite being 4/4/1 Democratic/Republican/Independent. WTF...

The litmus test for a true Republican has now been designated as a willingness to allow liberals to vote. Since the Republicans on the board seem to have a problem with suppressing liberal votes they are not true Republicans.

 

[Phokus]

Lol republicans are fucking comic book villains.

What next, adopt twirly mustaches and putting tied up women on train tracks?

 

[Paratus]

Lol republicans are fucking comic book villains.

What next, adopt twirly mustaches and putting tied up women on train tracks?

TIE HER UP
TIE HER UP?

 

[zinfamous]

Republicans are scum, and it seems that the center of their moral universe is located in NC.

 

[Jhhnn]

When Obama took N Carolina in 2008 it was simply unacceptable to the N Carolina GOP. Having a black president was a deeply disturbing development & their State helped it happen. It was an affront to their sensibilities, unthinkably wrong. They set out to make sure nothing like that would ever happen again. They're not picky at all as to the means to accomplish it, either.

 

[HomerJS]

Again, Republicans disenfranchising minority voters. Again, Republicans deny this happens.

#oneside

I started a thread to list any Democratic states that disenfranchise white Republican voters. Guess how many entries?

That's right ZERO. It's all #oneside

 

[hal2kilo]

Why is it not related? It's speculated from the statistical oddity that the Republican candidate is getting more votes than they should in Bladen County. My half serious post was pointing out that Bladen County is the only one that didn't see a medium/large shift to the Democrats.

See 0 problem with your response. Same information pointing out statistical impossibilities.

 

[Brainonska511]

Some additional summary of what we know provided by the NYTimes: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/us/politics/north-carolina-election-fraud-.html

• Bladen County, a largely rural county in the district, recorded the state’s highest rate of absentee ballot requests: 7.5 percent of registered voters, compared with less than 3 percent in most counties. An unusually large number of them, 40 percent, were never returned. Even more, 62 percent, were unreturned in neighboring Robeson County. No other county had an unreturned rate higher than 27 percent. And according to an analysis by The News & Observer, the unreturned ballots — especially in Robeson County — were “disproportionately associated with minority voters,” who tend to vote for Democrats.
• Mr. Harris won 61 percent of submitted absentee ballots in Bladen County, even though registered Republicans accounted for only 19 percent of the ballots submitted. To do that, he would have had to win essentially every independent who voted absentee, as well as some registered Democrats. In every other county in the district — even strongly Republican ones — Mr. McCready won the absentee vote.
• North Carolina requires absentee ballot envelopes to be signed by two witnesses. Two news outlets — WSOC and Popular Information — reported independently on Monday that an unusual number of submitted ballot envelopes in Bladen County were signed by the same witnesses, which is very unusual. Three people signed more than 40 apiece. And a woman who signed 28 told WSOC that Mr. Dowless had paid her to collect finished absentee ballots and deliver them to him. She said Mr. Dowless never informed her that this was illegal.

 

[TheVrolok]

Surprised the usual "voter commission-esque" "conservatives" on this board aren't showing up to decry fraud.

Wait, I meant I'm NOT surprised.

 

[fskimospy]

Surprised the usual "voter commission-esque" "conservatives" on this board aren't showing up to decry fraud.

Wait, I meant I'm NOT surprised.

Endless complaints about voter fraud when the goal is to enact pointless voter ID laws. Actual voter fraud? Not a peep.

Yet again in case anyone was wondering if preventing voter fraud was the actual GOP goal this should show that to be a lie.