CONFIRMED! iPod w/Video support!

[ai42]

Originally posted by: ironcrotch
I wonder what Bill Gates and Microsoft execs have running through there heads

I'm sure they are not happy about the video distribution aspect of this all. However, Microsoft doesn't really have anything that competes with the iPod. And their Portable Media Center while it sounds cool was really a bust.

 

[ironcrotch]

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: ironcrotch
I wonder what Bill Gates and Microsoft execs have running through there heads

I'm sure they are not happy about the video distribution aspect of this all. However, Microsoft doesn't really have anything that competes with the iPod. And their Portable Media Center while it sounds cool was really a bust.

No kiddin. I've been playing with iTunes 6. I know iTunes 5 could play videos but it's much more refined in 6. And so I loaded some Coldplay vids into my library and tehy show right up. I think listening to your music with the music video playin on the side is very cool and definitely can catch on. Adds a different aspect to your music collection.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: ironcrotch
I wonder what Bill Gates and Microsoft execs have running through there heads

I'm sure they are not happy about the video distribution aspect of this all. However, Microsoft doesn't really have anything that competes with the iPod. And their Portable Media Center while it sounds cool was really a bust.

I think MS is concentrating on the whole Xbox360/Media Center experience. They don't sell a portable media player but provide services for media player. Maybe they'll figure a way to start selling videos? Dunno.

 

[BRObedoza]

1.99 for episodes of Lost is not bad at all :thumbsup:

 

[ai42]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: ironcrotch
I wonder what Bill Gates and Microsoft execs have running through there heads

I'm sure they are not happy about the video distribution aspect of this all. However, Microsoft doesn't really have anything that competes with the iPod. And their Portable Media Center while it sounds cool was really a bust.

I think MS is concentrating on the whole Xbox360/Media Center experience. They don't sell a portable media player but provide services for media player. Maybe they'll figure a way to start selling videos? Dunno.

What? Creative has the Zen Portable Media Center. It's not Microsoft branded but it might as well be you know Microsoft coaxed them into it.

 

[ironcrotch]

Originally posted by: sleepmachine
1.99 for episodes of Lost is not bad at all :thumbsup:

The pilot ep is already available to buy. :thumbsup:

 

[ai42]

I wonder if the Porn industry will convince Apple to start an Adult section of iTunes Video Store. There is a lot of money in porn, but then again Steve Jobs is very idealistic (which can be good and bad).

 

[BRObedoza]

Originally posted by: ironcrotch

Originally posted by: sleepmachine
1.99 for episodes of Lost is not bad at all :thumbsup:

The pilot ep is already available to buy. :thumbsup:

all episodes from season 2 (so far) as well :thumbsup:

 

[ironcrotch]

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: ironcrotch
I wonder what Bill Gates and Microsoft execs have running through there heads

I'm sure they are not happy about the video distribution aspect of this all. However, Microsoft doesn't really have anything that competes with the iPod. And their Portable Media Center while it sounds cool was really a bust.

I think MS is concentrating on the whole Xbox360/Media Center experience. They don't sell a portable media player but provide services for media player. Maybe they'll figure a way to start selling videos? Dunno.

What? Creative has the Zen Portable Media Center. It's not Microsoft branded but it might as well be you know Microsoft coaxed them into it.

FrontRow with the bluetooth remote is in direct competition with the "media center experience."

http://www.apple.com/imac/frontrow.html

edit: and to add to the fact that Apple is successfully doing what MS planned to do but floppped at. an online music and movie video store.

 

[Dubb]

I kinda like this (I normally hate ipods). I think they're heading in the right direction.

but if apple is claiming 3 hrs batterly life on video...you'll be lucky to get through a full movie on one charge.

better battery life + FM tuner and I'd probably get one. vorbis and/or gapless would seal it.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: ironcrotch
I wonder what Bill Gates and Microsoft execs have running through there heads

I'm sure they are not happy about the video distribution aspect of this all. However, Microsoft doesn't really have anything that competes with the iPod. And their Portable Media Center while it sounds cool was really a bust.

I think MS is concentrating on the whole Xbox360/Media Center experience. They don't sell a portable media player but provide services for media player. Maybe they'll figure a way to start selling videos? Dunno.

What? Creative has the Zen Portable Media Center. It's not Microsoft branded but it might as well be you know Microsoft coaxed them into it.

No, I never heard anything about MS coaxing Creative into the Zen Portable Media Center.

MS uses third parties (like CinemaNow) to provide video services (rent/buy) through Windows Media Player. MS has an advantage of better quality video but I'm not sure how much it is used. However, I'm pretty sure they'll get more penetration out of the Xbox360 than they would with the Creative Zen Portable Media Center.

 

[ai42]

Originally posted by: Dubb
I kinda like this (I normally hate ipods). I think they're heading in the right direction.

but if apple is claiming 3 hrs batterly life on video...you'll be lucky to get through a full movie on one charge.

better battery life + FM tuner and I'd probably get one. vorbis and/or gapless would seal it.

I don't think full movies are the target for this iPod. This is more of a feeler to see how well/badly the whole Video distrubtion goes. If it does well I have no doubt we will see full blown video iPod with a larger widescreen display and longer battery life.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

30% thinner?!!?!! This is friggn SEXY

 

[jpthomas]

Originally posted by: Yossarian
give me a one click solution to rip my own dvd movies to the computer and sync to an ipod and I'll buy one.

:thumbsup:

 

[akugami]

Originally posted by: Dubb
I kinda like this (I normally hate ipods). I think they're heading in the right direction.

but if apple is claiming 3 hrs batterly life on video...you'll be lucky to get through a full movie on one charge.

better battery life + FM tuner and I'd probably get one. vorbis and/or gapless would seal it.

Well, you'll have to remember it uses H.264 which probably takes a lot of processing power. I mean, they increased the battery life of the iPods and the video playback time still sucks. That oughta tell you something.

I would like FM tuner but realistically theres only one channel I listen to at all and it's a sports radio channel. Mainstream radio stations play 95% junk anyways, so for me at least, FM support is not that important. I can see where it would be important for some though.

I have mostly MP3's in my collection. My current ripping methods are either directly to MP3 or (more likely now) ripping to FLAC and then archiving my collection. Then encoding the FLACS to MP3 or any other future format when needed. I don't really know anyone who uses OGG, as such it's not really an audio codec that needs to be implemented. I know gapless playback gets touted up the wazoo but is a 3 second gap between songs really such a make or break feature? Yep, it'd be nice to have ogg and gapless playback but seriously...no pressing need for them to implement it.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: akugami
The issue is that so many anti-fanboys always harping on the deficiencies of Apple and it's products that it gets old fast and quite annoying. Half the time they are wrong anyways. And for a company that is considered irrelevent by so many peope, it sure gets a lot of attention doesn't it?

The other thing is that while there are indeed legitimate questions about Apple's products, the anti-fanboys are so full of p!ss and fire that they come off as ranting lunatics and any legitimate points they have are drowned out by noise.

As for QT7, I believe it can take quicktime obviously, avi files, mpeg1, mpeg2, h.264 and not sure what else. I'd have to agree quicktime's interface sucks. I like BSPlayer myself. If you want a relatively cheap tool for encoding video you can check out Procoder Express. Though it does require the installation of Quicktime and Divx to encode in those formats.

And for the self encoded or non ITMS downloaded videos, it was pretty obvious this was going to be supported. ITunes has included support for video podcast since at least version 4.9. These are of course not going to be governed by Fairplay so it stands to reason that you can import pretty much any video and play it so long as it's done through the iTunes software. Or at least until they come up with a hacked version of software to bypass iTunes when loading songs (and now videos) on the iPods.

The issue, is that you fanboys are so fanatical that you jump on anyone's throat that points out clear shortcomings of any Apple products. Let me guess, the battery life on previous gen iPods which Apple LIED about and was made to pay for by a court was excusable for you? How about the scratches on the Nano? Oh, just get a case say the fanboys. I don't think Apple can ever do wrong. My original criticisms, my personal problems with the new iPods, are still valid. I surely got "0wn3d" with the fact that you can put home movies on the iPod. Great deal. How much is Quicktime Pro 7 again? Another $30. Like I said, I personally don't think encoding video is as simple as 1-2-3. And listen, I don't have any home videos I'd want to encode. What I would like to do is watch episodes of shows I TIVO'd (and not have to pay Apple and Disney) for it. I'd like to watch a dvd rip of a movie I own.

"Half the time they are wrong anyways" - Wrong how? I admiteed for the third time now that I made a mistake regarding putting your own video on there. But other criticisms critics have ever had are objective. How is one "wrong" about battery life or scratches or lack of formats supported, etc? Are they just imagining these problems?

I am excited about the smaller size and the nicie pretty screen. The video, doesn't excite me at all. That was my point.

And in case you are curious, I am listening to Social Distortion on my 4G 40GB iPod as I type this.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: akugami

Originally posted by: Dubb
I kinda like this (I normally hate ipods). I think they're heading in the right direction.

but if apple is claiming 3 hrs batterly life on video...you'll be lucky to get through a full movie on one charge.

better battery life + FM tuner and I'd probably get one. vorbis and/or gapless would seal it.

Well, you'll have to remember it uses H.264 which probably takes a lot of processing power. I mean, they increased the battery life of the iPods and the video playback time still sucks. That oughta tell you something.

I would like FM tuner but realistically theres only one channel I listen to at all and it's a sports radio channel. Mainstream radio stations play 95% junk anyways, so for me at least, FM support is not that important. I can see where it would be important for some though.

I have mostly MP3's in my collection. My current ripping methods are either directly to MP3 or (more likely now) ripping to FLAC and then archiving my collection. Then encoding the FLACS to MP3 or any other future format when needed. I don't really know anyone who uses OGG, as such it's not really an audio codec that needs to be implemented. I know gapless playback gets touted up the wazoo but is a 3 second gap between songs really such a make or break feature? Yep, it'd be nice to have ogg and gapless playback but seriously...no pressing need for them to implement it.

Does the iPod support FLAC?

 

[yumychinesefood]

A bigger Nano

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: akugami

Originally posted by: Dubb
I kinda like this (I normally hate ipods). I think they're heading in the right direction.

but if apple is claiming 3 hrs batterly life on video...you'll be lucky to get through a full movie on one charge.

better battery life + FM tuner and I'd probably get one. vorbis and/or gapless would seal it.

Well, you'll have to remember it uses H.264 which probably takes a lot of processing power. I mean, they increased the battery life of the iPods and the video playback time still sucks. That oughta tell you something.

I would like FM tuner but realistically theres only one channel I listen to at all and it's a sports radio channel. Mainstream radio stations play 95% junk anyways, so for me at least, FM support is not that important. I can see where it would be important for some though.

I have mostly MP3's in my collection. My current ripping methods are either directly to MP3 or (more likely now) ripping to FLAC and then archiving my collection. Then encoding the FLACS to MP3 or any other future format when needed. I don't really know anyone who uses OGG, as such it's not really an audio codec that needs to be implemented. I know gapless playback gets touted up the wazoo but is a 3 second gap between songs really such a make or break feature? Yep, it'd be nice to have ogg and gapless playback but seriously...no pressing need for them to implement it.

Does the iPod support FLAC?

pretty sure not. AAC is a very good almost(i'd say 90-95%) lossless quality codec if you rip it right though.

anyone know if the ipod will lay xvid/divx codec movies? that's my entire collection and reencoding is a pain.

 

[aberdeen5]

I think I'll stick with my 20GB H10

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
pretty sure not. AAC is a very good almost(i'd say 90-95%) lossless quality codec if you rip it right though.

Given enough bits to work with virtually any codec can sound good, AAC sounds quite a bit better than MP3 at any equivalent bitrate, but is nowhere near lossless.

As far as lossless codecs go AAC is great. Smaller filesizes & better quality than MP3.

Viper GTS

 

[NakaNaka]

How long do you think until NBC/FOX/CBS sign deals w. Apple? Because I want one but they just aren't selling many shows at the moment.

Also - will converting the downloaded tv shows I have right now (from bit torrent) be difficult?

 

[jpeyton]

Screen is too small.

 

[keeleysam]

I bought a Black 30GB

 

[spanky]

anyone else think it's weak that both new imacs come with 512mb ram? i would have thought they would have offered a "beefy" model. i guess that's down the road.