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Computer turns on,but nothing shows up on the moniter?

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iNSAN1TY

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Here are the specs that are in the PC right now (im in the process of building it )

AMD Athlon 64 3500+
512 mb Corsair XMS PC3200 memory
120 gb Maxtor SATA HD
ABIT AV8 3rd-eye Mobo
Audigy 2 ZS Soundcard
GeForce 3 (from old computer)

The computer turns on and stays on,but nothing at all shows up on the Moniter. (I just get "Moniter is in save mode,activate using PC" ) message ??

This is my first time building a computer,so this is very new to me,I also have another question..I am a ble to turn my computer ON with the "Power" button on the front of my case,but I cannot turn it OFF for some reason..also the "Reset" button doesnt work.

Any help you guys have will be appreciated,thanks in advance.
 
Your PSU may not be supplying enough juice, this is all I can offer as I am just researching the importance of PSU's, but, as I understand it, they are the most underlooked component in the system!

Hope this at least leads you in the right direction 😉
 
Originally posted by: iNSAN1TY
Oh yes..I forgot to mention that I havent bought my PSU yet,im currently just using the stock one that came with my Coolermaster Case,which is a 350w coolermaster PSU (which also,probably sucks)..that could be the problem..

EDIT: Anyone know a good PSU match for the ABIT AV8 3rd-eye motherboard?
I was thinking about this one : http://www.newegg.com/app/view...=17-104-934&depa=0
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I'm using the X-Connect 500 watt with my AV8, works great. I love this motherboard too!
That 350 watt might not be enough, I would hold off to not damaged anything. Sounds like the problem to me, better safe then sorry get a new PSU
 
Originally posted by: iNSAN1TY
Here are the specs that are in the PC right now (im in the process of building it )

AMD Athlon 64 3500+
512 mb Corsair XMS PC3200 memory
120 gb Maxtor SATA HD
ABIT AV8 3rd-eye Mobo
Audigy 2 ZS Soundcard
GeForce 3 (from old computer)

The computer turns on and stays on,but nothing at all shows up on the Moniter. (I just get "Moniter is in save mode,activate using PC" ) message ??

This is my first time building a computer,so this is very new to me,I also have another question..I am a ble to turn my computer ON with the "Power" button on the front of my case,but I cannot turn it OFF for some reason..also the "Reset" button doesnt work.

Any help you guys have will be appreciated,thanks in advance.
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Check to see that your AGP card is fully seated in the slot and that the monitor cable is fully inserted in the plug with no bent pins . The card could also be dead. The power save message on your monitor tells you that the monitor has no signal or is getting a signal that it can't display, probably the former.

You should be able to hold your power button for 4+ seconds and shut down. For the reset switch, you likely are plugged into the wrong pins. Check the manual and your pins again.

Also, since this is your first build, I highly recommend mechBgon's building tutorial. Link. He's well respected on these board and generally a nice guy! They don't some much better.

Edit: That's not a great PSU, but you should be able to drive your system without any problems at stock with it, assuming it has no problems. Also, did your system POST when you turned it on?
 
Few things. First check and see if the monitor is connected correctly. Second, Your computer should turn off if you hold the button in for a 3-5 seconds:maybe a little longer but not over 10. Next, pull out the book for your mobo and find the wire from your case that connects the reset switch to the mobo and make sure it is connected and in the proper place. On my first system I took all my parts to a friend's house that had more experience and once built that and another wire came loose and I could not figure out what happened at first as it all worked at his house. Hope this helps and welcome to the forums.
 
Originally posted by: Rike

Edit: That's not a great PSU, but you should be able to drive your system without any problems at stock with it, assuming it has no problems. Also, did your system POST when you turned it on?
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Yes,the computer turns on and stays on without any problem,it was just the moniter issue..i'll see if maybe I didnt get the video card on all the way,and make sure everythings connected..im pretty sure it was though,because..when I had everything but the Video Card in,the computer wouldnt stay on..it would boot up,post..and then give a 9.F code and shut down,but with the Video Card in..it stays on.

Im going to wait a minute to read some more replies before I try it agian,as I have to take the video card out and move a 85 lb moniter to the other room 🙂

Thanks for your help guys,and thanks for the welcome Anubis08.

EDIT: Spelling..damn beer 🙂
 
Hmm,after looking at the website you said to look at Rike,about installing the Hard Drive..I didnt set the jumper at all on my Maxtor HD,I didnt even know where they were 🙂..just thought id see if maybe that could be a problem..

EDIT: Wait..this guy is using a IDE Hard drive,does SATA even have this?
 
No, I believe the SATA standard doesn?t use the jumpers.

Edit: BTW, you really don't need a 500 watt PSU for your system. I'd give the one you have a ride until you reach some type of limitation with it, then replace. I mean, my whole system draws about 260 watts and that includes the monitor. A64's aren't that much more power hungery. 350 watts for your type of system should be just fine.
 
Yeah that's what I thought,thanks Rike..im going to take the graphics card and moniter from this computer and try it agian..i'll check the forum agian and say what happens..thanks guys!
 
Have you tried clearing the CMOS yet?

just may do the trick...

Move the CMOS jumper from its default 1-2 position to 2-3 for a few seconds, and then back. When
you boot up your system for the first time, follow the instructions in the user's manual to load the
optimized defaults.

PS - after reading up on your motherboard, 350W supply should be plenty for what you have. I would consider, though, investing in a more quality PSU maybe a month or two down the line to protect your investment!
 
Tried agian,same problem. And no I havent tried clearing the CMOS yet,dont really know how..it tells about it in my manual,but from the picture in the manual ..I cant seem to find it,althought I think I know where it is..not sure tho..
 
If you are POSTing, you don't need to clear the CMOS. Your problem is most likely somewhere from the videocard out, not at a mobo level.

Can you try the vidcard in question on a different machine? And the monitor is good, right?

Hey, if push comes to shove, you might just have to get a new vid card. Worse things could happen. 😀
 
Look on page 1-3 in your user manual.

It is a diagram of your motherboard.

Look on the lower left hand part of the diagram, to the right of the 4 PCI expansion slots, to the left (and down) of the 2 SATA connectors. (to the immediate left of a chip housing with the letters 'FWH' on it)

There is a jumper on 3 pins, while your computer is turned off, with power cables unplugged, take that jumper off for about 3-5 seconds, then replace it.

That is how you reset your CMOS.
 
maybe you put too much grease under the heatsink on the CPU and got it all spilled over the contacts. I've seen this happen with newbies

 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
maybe you put too much grease under the heatsink on the CPU and got it all spilled over the contacts. I've seen this happen with newbies
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No im pretty sure I didnt do that,I was very careful when putting that on and made sure it went nowhere put on top of the processer itself,not the contacts...though it probably could have happend,since ive never done it before..I will check that.

Thanks for the help kelly23f,I will try trhat also.

(though not tonight,have to work tommrow and need to go to bed soon 🙁. )

I will be checking this thread for a little while longer though,thanks for your help guys.
 
Originally posted by: Rike
If you are POSTing, you don't need to clear the CMOS. Your problem is most likely somewhere from the videocard out, not at a mobo level.

Can you try the vidcard in question on a different machine? And the monitor is good, right?

Hey, if push comes to shove, you might just have to get a new vid card. Worse things could happen. 😀
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The only reason I am suggesting clearing the CMOS is that he was unclear in answering your question about whether or not he was POST-ing.

Rike:...Also, did your system POST when you turned it on?

iNSAN1TY:Yes,the computer turns on and stays on without any problem...
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With that response, I was not secure in knowing for sure he knew exactly what you meant...😱
 
Well,the only thing I know about POST-ing is the post code that comes on when I turn my computer on ,numbers that tell me what the mobo is doing and uguru..maybe this is specific to my motherboard,I have no idea..is that wrong?
 
Originally posted by: iNSAN1TY
Originally posted by: deathkoba
maybe you put too much grease under the heatsink on the CPU and got it all spilled over the contacts. I've seen this happen with newbies
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Thanks for the help kelly23f,I will try trhat also.

(though not tonight,have to work tommrow and need to go to bed soon 🙁. )

I will be checking this thread for a little while longer though,thanks for your help guys.
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clearing the CMOS literally takes 90 seconds total. (assuming you know exactly where to go) but the 3 pins are very easy to find, I have faith in you!!!

I hope you get your machine up and running!

 
Thanks kelly,what I mean about me not doing it tonight is..I have to carry a 85lb moniter to the other part of the house,and also take out the graphics card of the computer im using now..im pretty tired at the moment and have already done in twice,so I will just do it ASAP after I wake up 🙂 I hope I get it working also,its gonna be 2 or 3x as good as my current computer!
 
iNSAN1TY, POST = Power On Self Test

If your machine POSTs, and you've hooked up the speaker on your case to the mobo, you should get a 'beep' from the case speaker. The quick beep is a pretty universal indication that the mobo, cpu, and RAM are basically fine.

Does your machine do this when it turns on? If not, your issues are probably NOT video related and you may indeed have more serious issues.

Edit: Point taken, kelly23f. :thumbsup:

Also, iNSAN1TY where are you seeing codes? On the mobo somewhere or do they flash on the screen first and then nothing more through the monitor?
 
Originally posted by: iNSAN1TY
Well,the only thing I know about POST-ing is the post code that comes on when I turn my computer on ,numbers that tell me what the mobo is doing and uguru..maybe this is specific to my motherboard,I have no idea..is that wrong?
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Oh yeah, I couldn't find a 9.f or 9f POST code for your motherboard.

here are the codes beginning with 9:
9.0.

Complete uGuru initial process

AWARD BIOS take over booting job

Power Off Sequence

9.1.

Start power off sequence

9.2.

De-Assert all power

9.3.

Se-Assert power on

9.4.

De-Assert LDT Bus power

9.5.

De-Assert PWM for CPU core voltage

9.6.

De-Assert CPU core voltage

9.7.

Check CPU core voltage

9.8.

De-Assert ATX power supply

9.9.

Complete power off sequence

Others

F.0.

Button reset

F.1.

SoftMenu reset

F.2.

Power on sequence timeout

F.3.

Power off sequence timeout
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Originally posted by: Rike
iNSAN1TY, POST = Power On Self Test

If your machine POSTs, and you've hooked up the speaker on your case to the mobo, you should get a 'beep' from the case speaker. The quick beep is a pretty universal indication that the mobo, cpu, and RAM are basically fine.

Does your machine do this when it turns on? If not, your issues are probably NOT video related and you may indeed have more serious issues.
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I just checked this,and yes it does beep. Only when I first turn it on though..like if its on,and I turn it off using my case power button..then turn back on,it doesnt beep. But when I turn off the PSU,then turn it back on..it beeps.

kelly23f,I have this same problem..cant find the post code 9.F,that only happend when I didnt have any memory in though,now that I have memory in,it turns on fine. Though at first (for some reason) it wouldnt turn on without the Video Card in ,but now it does it without : /
 
Directly from ABIT's website:

Why does my µGuru POST code hang at 90?

Solution
Basically, µGuru has 3 sequences:
PONSEQ (Power On Sequence): 81~8F & 90.
POFSEQ (Power Off Sequence): 91~99.
FPOFSEQ (Force Power Off Sequence): 9A~9F
Function states: F0~F4

In some cases, 90 means Power On Sequence (PONSEQ), which enables the hardware monitor & Fan EQ. Generally, hanging at 90 means a failed overclock.

If the system fails during the Power On Sequence (PONSEQ), the system would also force a Power Off Sequence (FPOFSEQ).

Thus, if users encounter this issue, please also report the post code before 90 if possible. This will help us to quickly determine the cause of the problem.
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I would write down everything you see on your screen and email a tech on the abit website. I am sure they could nail your problem immediately.
 
Originally posted by: kelly23f
Directly from ABIT's website:

Why does my µGuru POST code hang at 90?

Solution
Basically, µGuru has 3 sequences:
PONSEQ (Power On Sequence): 81~8F & 90.
POFSEQ (Power Off Sequence): 91~99.
FPOFSEQ (Force Power Off Sequence): 9A~9F
Function states: F0~F4

In some cases, 90 means Power On Sequence (PONSEQ), which enables the hardware monitor & Fan EQ. Generally, hanging at 90 means a failed overclock.

If the system fails during the Power On Sequence (PONSEQ), the system would also force a Power Off Sequence (FPOFSEQ).

Thus, if users encounter this issue, please also report the post code before 90 if possible. This will help us to quickly determine the cause of the problem.
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I would write down everything you see on your screen and email a tech on the abit website. I am sure they could nail your problem immediately.
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Thanks kelly,but postcode 9.F is no longer a problem,it boots up fine now..BUT..now that its on (and staying on +cool) it says postcode 0.4,that ones not in the manual either..I will check ABIT's website now..


EDIT: After reading a little on postcode 0.4,it seems that when alot of people get this postcode,they get a serious of beeps and the computer wont stay on..mine only beeps when FIRST turning on,and stays on..(its been on about an hour now),hmm..kinda strange.
 
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