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desk

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Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
I downloaded.
I didn't like.
I deleted.

ummm....it was streaming. LIAR! ;)

No... you can download them. Search?

I don't think people who hate the genre(s) I listen to are ignorant. It's not hard to sample what defines a genre and then decide it's not your thing. If a random song is part of that genre you know it has to somewhat similar to other music in the genre (or else it wouldn't be placed there to begin with).

Hmm... interesting that so many people here listen to music because of what is said, what the message is. Or at least part of why. I just care about how it sounds...


in all seriousness, how do you download them? cause i would like to.

thanks.
 

Nomada

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Originally posted by: technodildo
Originally posted by: Nomada
Condoning murder, prostituting women, other violent crimes, and turf wars does not make for good music. If they have something new to say(other than Jesus thumping) I'll listen, but all I ever hear is the same old stereotypical rap crap. Give me pop rockers singing about drugs, depression and alcololism and I'm happy.



well at least your honest about being an ignorant idiot


You know Techno Dillhole, you're nothing more than a little punk with your little dick in your hand while you type out insulting, uncalled for remarks to damn near everyone you quote. Perhaps not everyone knows that your the same Goof that just got the old perma-ban there DCDude. Keep your snide comments in your little brain and you might just be redeemed by 2010. Don't be calling me no ignorant idiot buddy.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
I don't think people who hate the genre(s) I listen to are ignorant
Big difference between not liking something and (not saying you did this, just speaking in general) claiming that something sucks.
Originally posted by: Nomada
You know Techno Dillhole, you're nothing more than a little punk with your little dick in your hand while you type out insulting, uncalled for remarks to damn near everyone you quote. Perhaps not everyone knows that your the same Goof that just got the old perma-ban there DCDude. Keep your snide comments in your little brain and you might just be redeemed by 2010. Don't be calling me no ignorant idiot buddy.
If judging an entire musical genre based on a fraction of the music in it, despite being told you're wrong and given examples proving it, isn't ignorant, I don't know what is.

I'd recommend some Aesop Rock or Pharcyde btw, though you'll ignore those suggestions because they hurt your argument. Must be nice to have an on/off switch for reality to use whenever it suits your purposes :p
 

desk

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
I don't think people who hate the genre(s) I listen to are ignorant
Big difference between not liking something and (not saying you did this, just speaking in general) claiming that something sucks.
Originally posted by: Nomada
You know Techno Dillhole, you're nothing more than a little punk with your little dick in your hand while you type out insulting, uncalled for remarks to damn near everyone you quote. Perhaps not everyone knows that your the same Goof that just got the old perma-ban there DCDude. Keep your snide comments in your little brain and you might just be redeemed by 2010. Don't be calling me no ignorant idiot buddy.
If judging an entire musical genre based on a fraction of the music in it, despite being told you're wrong and given examples proving it, isn't ignorant, I don't know what is.

I'd recommend some Aesop Rock or Pharcyde btw, though you'll ignore those suggestions because they hurt your argument. Must be nice to have an on/off switch for reality to use whenever it suits your purposes :p

gurck, what aesop rock album do you recommend? i think he only has one lp, right? the others are eps?

anyhow, i have the night light / day light mp3's, they are both excellent.
 

Nomada

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Gurck, I have heard plenty of rap back in the day. Stuff like Nas, Tribe Called Quest, mid-nineties stuff, etc. I've personally never cared for it too much. No biggie, I more than likely like plenty none of you would enjoy. I don't stereotype the whole genre, though I will point out that the stereotypes do hold true to 90% of what I do hear of the genre. Ignorant, perhaps. Am I an idiot, perhaps. But to be called an ignorant idiot in such a fashion, 'specially over rap music is something I won't let go idle.

Many people really aren't impressed with looping beats and some guy who rhymes about how well he can rhyme. That is all.
 

Gurck

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I only have Appleseed for the time being, been meaning to get more, but there's just so much depth to it I still have a lot of listening to do despite having listened to it a good bit. I want to get Fast Cars, Danger, Fire and Knives, which includes a book with all of their lyrics to date, just to clear a few things up.
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
gimme a dollar

I'll give you $5 if you admit rap is crap. ;)

keep ur 5 cuz i actually like rap for what it is

I do too, but you're not helping its image by typing that way... u noez wut i meen d00d? olololo... :(

As an aside, anyone who hasn't already done so should check out Aesop Rock & the Pharcyde.

uhhhhhhh, internet l33t speak has nothing to do with hiphop

How about typing like a five-year-old?

uh-huh, so i take it you don't speak slang at all? if you did, you'd be "talking like a five year old"
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
gimme a dollar

I'll give you $5 if you admit rap is crap. ;)

keep ur 5 cuz i actually like rap for what it is

I do too, but you're not helping its image by typing that way... u noez wut i meen d00d? olololo... :(

As an aside, anyone who hasn't already done so should check out Aesop Rock & the Pharcyde.

uhhhhhhh, internet l33t speak has nothing to do with hiphop

No, it has to do with sounding like an idiot.

You like rap.
You "l33t speak."

Get the picture now?

as well as AT, program in C++, read Milton, etc...

so i guess i make all those things look bad too because i speak ineternet slang, or maybe i make rap look bad because i don't follow what many people think of when they stereotype hiphop???
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: MommysLittleMonster
It only sounds hot because Kanye West is the exec producer.

maybe, i never said i didn't like kanye. they also got jay dee on there doin some tracks
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: Nomada
Originally posted by: technodildo
Originally posted by: Nomada
Condoning murder, prostituting women, other violent crimes, and turf wars does not make for good music. If they have something new to say(other than Jesus thumping) I'll listen, but all I ever hear is the same old stereotypical rap crap. Give me pop rockers singing about drugs, depression and alcololism and I'm happy.



well at least your honest about being an ignorant idiot


You know Techno Dillhole, you're nothing more than a little punk with your little dick in your hand while you type out insulting, uncalled for remarks to damn near everyone you quote. Perhaps not everyone knows that your the same Goof that just got the old perma-ban there DCDude. Keep your snide comments in your little brain and you might just be redeemed by 2010. Don't be calling me no ignorant idiot buddy.

well u DID show your ignorance, because common and his album have NONE of your aformentioned condoing of murder, prostitution, other violent crimes, and/or turf wars
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
gimme a dollar

I'll give you $5 if you admit rap is crap. ;)

keep ur 5 cuz i actually like rap for what it is

I do too, but you're not helping its image by typing that way... u noez wut i meen d00d? olololo... :(

As an aside, anyone who hasn't already done so should check out Aesop Rock & the Pharcyde.

uhhhhhhh, internet l33t speak has nothing to do with hiphop

How about typing like a five-year-old?

uh-huh, so i take it you don't speak slang at all? if you did, you'd be "talking like a five year old"

Took you some time to come up with that reply, didn't it?

Anyway.
keep ur 5 cuz i actually like rap for what it is

That's not slang. That's typing like a five-year-old.
 

Nomada

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*Said by KidViscious* well u DID show your ignorance, because common and his album have NONE of your aformentioned condoing of murder, prostitution, other violent crimes, and/or turf wars
Though I've never heard Common? that wasn't my implication. Do you think I also meant all rock is about drugs, depression and alcohol? No. The point was that most rap played mainstream does. Ignorant 'cause I won't go out of my way to listen to every linked song posted. Then I'll join the whordes.
 

Gurck

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There's really not much of a debate here, when I (and I think most people here) see something along the lines of "wut 2 ur b ne1", I simply *can not* take the person seriously. I get a mental image of a 10-12 year old eating a PB&J sandwich (with the crusts cut off, thanks mommy!) in front of an AOL-optimized computer, power rangers on TV in the background, visions of "pwnz0r1ng" people by calling them names dancing through his head...
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: Gurck
There's really not much of a debate here, when I (and I think most people here) see something along the lines of "wut 2 ur b ne1", I simply *can not* take the person seriously. I get a mental image of a 10-12 year old eating a PB&J sandwich (with the crusts cut off, thanks mommy!) in front of an AOL-optimized computer, power rangers on TV in the background, visions of "pwnz0r1ng" people by calling them names dancing through his head...

Don't forget Counter-Strike.

I hate you myg0t!
:D
 

PaidLess

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Well ... IMO ... Hip Hop itself has evolved ... Its not just for "black" people anymore .. its aimed to everyone now .. hip hop or as some say .. "Rap" ... isnt just about sex, money, murder, and mayhem .. the people who make rap .. (well most of them) talk about their own lives and how they grew up from where they are from ... people who say rap = crap are just ignorant because they havent lived through what the rappers have lived through .. if you lived in a place where hip hop is around every corner .. you wouldnt be saying rap is crap .. for everyone who hates rap ... keep on living in your suburban house with your white picket fence ... when u do come to a place where you see homeless people on every corner go hold on to your wallets .. and run scared ..
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
gimme a dollar

I'll give you $5 if you admit rap is crap. ;)

keep ur 5 cuz i actually like rap for what it is

I do too, but you're not helping its image by typing that way... u noez wut i meen d00d? olololo... :(

As an aside, anyone who hasn't already done so should check out Aesop Rock & the Pharcyde.

uhhhhhhh, internet l33t speak has nothing to do with hiphop

How about typing like a five-year-old?

uh-huh, so i take it you don't speak slang at all? if you did, you'd be "talking like a five year old"

Took you some time to come up with that reply, didn't it?

Anyway.
keep ur 5 cuz i actually like rap for what it is

That's not slang. That's typing like a five-year-old.

it "took me a while" because i check AT like once every few days, and forget that i have a thread that i'm actively taking part in

and that IS slang, it's internet slang, and i don't type it because i want to talk "slang", i type it because it's like a shortcut. when i type what's in my head, i don't emphasize the "ur" or "cuz", it's just something that comes out naturally for me when talking on the internet.
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: Nomada
*Said by KidViscious* well u DID show your ignorance, because common and his album have NONE of your aformentioned condoing of murder, prostitution, other violent crimes, and/or turf wars
Though I've never heard Common? that wasn't my implication. Do you think I also meant all rock is about drugs, depression and alcohol? No. The point was that most rap played mainstream does. Ignorant 'cause I won't go out of my way to listen to every linked song posted. Then I'll join the whordes.

i said ignorant because you were associating those attributes with an album that has NOTHING to do with those attributes without even considering listening to it. if you were making those statements about the album without even wanting to listen to it to see if youre correct, then that makes you ignorant AND arrogant. if you were just talking abotu rap on the radio, you were partially correct
 

MrCodeDude

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To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
Till the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these b!tches crawl (crawl)
To all skeet skeet motherfscker (motherfscker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)

Quality music :)
 

fstime

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I hate rap, hip hop, gangster music, whatever you want to call it.

Little white kids who try to listen to rap makes me laugh.
 

Atomic Rooster

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Well, at last this thread explained who that "Common" guy was in the HIV posters. Now that I know, I can sleep restfully. :roll:
 

desk

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Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
Till the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these b!tches crawl (crawl)
To all skeet skeet motherfscker (motherfscker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)

Quality music :)


yeh, cause those kinda lyrics are only in rap :p

Squeeze me baby, till the juice runs down my leg, X2
The way you squeeze my lemon,
I..I'm gonna fall right out of bed, Yeah.

-led zeppelin
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: TwiceOver
After 10+ years of hating "rap" I doubt one album would change my mind. BTW "Rap" and "HipHop" are in the same category in my book.

Same here except I have been hating it for 20 years. And before you start saying that Rap and Hip Hop are different it really is a moot point since they both suck, they do have that in common.