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Commercials thanking the President...is this normal?

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imported_tajmahal said:
Most of them haven't needed them due to reasonably fair coverage from the media. In the face of unremitting negative coverage then supporters of President Trump resort to paying for positive ads themselves


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/12/media-bias-continues-90-of-trump-coverage-in-last-/

"The working relationship between President Trump and the news media shows no signs of improving. Journalists continue to appear aggressively hostile toward the president, according to research released Tuesday by the Media Research Center, a conservative press watchdog.

The new study of major broadcast coverage reveals that 90 percent of statements made by reporters and nonpartisan sources the last three months on ABC, NBC and CBS evening newscasts about Mr. Trump and his administration were negative."

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/5550...trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents

"Compared to other recent presidents, news reports about President Trump have been more focused on his personality than his policy, and are more likely to carry negative assessments of his actions, according to a new study from the Pew Research Center's Journalism Project."
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Because trump is negative in everything he says and does to the majority of americans. Only republicans can praise a pile of shit.

Oh and BTW

The working relationship between President Trump and the news media shows no signs of improving. Journalists continue to appear aggressively hostile toward the president, according to research released Tuesday by the Media Research Center, a conservative press watchdog.
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ivwshane said:
They are indeed lies.

He didn't fix the economy, it was already fixed when he came into office.
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I don't think the economy is "fixed". But it is clear that the success Trump touts in things tied to economy is continuation of a trend started before him. How much might be attributed to Trump, however, is impossible to measure. Any such claims are opinion.

ivwshane said:
He hasn't kept America any safer than any other president (in fact we've had the second largest terrorist attack on America already in Las Vegas).
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Well, that's a more value-oriented proposition. Unless they propose a specific measurement, you can't really state that it's a lie but really an opinion. You could say it isn't an opinion based on any evidence you consider rational, and I'd probably find your stance compelling, but it's still opinion.

ivwshane said:
I'm not sure what putting America first means but we don't lead in a single metric other than military spending.
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I'm guessing this refers to immigration, trade partnerships, paris accord, etc. for which I don't think his policies are in American interest, but again this seems to be value-based and a matter of opinion.

ivwshane said:
He didn't remind anyone that we should stand for the national anthem.
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Sure he did. You remember his tirades about the NFL?

ivwshane said:
He didn't allow people to now say merry Christmas again.
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This is closest to outright lie to me, since there was clearly false assertion that Obama didn't use Merry Christmas. I could see how, generally, Trump's more controversial speech is interpreted as validating those who choose not to be "politically correct", but I agree Trump really hasn't done anything that enhances our freedoms here, and certainly saying "Merry Christmas" wasn't under any actual political threat before him.
 
Trump declared war on the media & the truth some while back.
imported_tajmahal said:
Most of them haven't needed them due to reasonably fair coverage from the media. In the face of unremitting negative coverage then supporters of President Trump resort to paying for positive ads themselves


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/12/media-bias-continues-90-of-trump-coverage-in-last-/

"The working relationship between President Trump and the news media shows no signs of improving. Journalists continue to appear aggressively hostile toward the president, according to research released Tuesday by the Media Research Center, a conservative press watchdog.

The new study of major broadcast coverage reveals that 90 percent of statements made by reporters and nonpartisan sources the last three months on ABC, NBC and CBS evening newscasts about Mr. Trump and his administration were negative."

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/5550...trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents

"Compared to other recent presidents, news reports about President Trump have been more focused on his personality than his policy, and are more likely to carry negative assessments of his actions, according to a new study from the Pew Research Center's Journalism Project."
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And the reason for that would be... what, exactly? Maybe it has something to do with him declaring the media to be the enemy of the people... or the compulsive lying... or the sheer incompetence at anything other than enabling the Lootocracy... Or... Or... Or...
 
dank69 said:
Yes and I'm sure you'd dismiss anything she says as lies right up until she told you something you wanted to hear.
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And I am sure you would accept anything she says as gospel truth, except for the inconvenient truths and criticisms in her book relative to Clinton and Obama. See how that works?
 
imported_tajmahal said:
Those Republican bastards actually think the are allowed to pollute our precious airwaves with political opinions, comments and thoughts?
Who the fsk do they think they are and where the fsk do they think they live?
In some free country with protected political speech that are actually allowed to purchase ad time to promote their opinions?
What has this liberal/progressive country come to when we allow those horrible people freedom of speech?

*The above ad presented to you by the ATP&N liberal and progressive party*
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Hey tajjy, whip out another Washington fucking post article to back you up, I'm sure it will work this time.
 
vi edit said:
This feels more like an absolutely tone deaf appeal to his base and the public a whole. I think that's what really bothers me. His approval is a historical low, the tax bill was historically low in approval, he's done nothing of significant merit to improve security or help vets. And the whole attack on Christmas was nothing but manufactured bullshit. And they parade this out trying to make an emotional appeal to all that he has accomplished.
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And some appear to be swallowing it all. Not letting a drop get away. In fact, there's direct evidence of that on this very forum, in this very thread.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
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The new study of major broadcast coverage reveals that 90 percent of statements made by reporters and nonpartisan sources the last three months on ABC, NBC and CBS evening newscasts about Mr. Trump and his administration were negative."

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/5550...trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents

"Compared to other recent presidents, news reports about President Trump have been more focused on his personality than his policy, and are more likely to carry negative assessments of his actions, according to a new study from the Pew Research Center's Journalism Project."
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Strangely enough, Tajmabot neglected to quote a key point from this NPR story:
"While some may be tempted to read this as evidence of media bias, the leader of Pew's Journalism Project said that isn't a conclusion one can draw from the study."​

Once again, Tajjy, honest media coverage of Donnie tends to be negative for the same reason media coverage of the Hindenburg disaster was negative: flaming gas bags are bad.

Happy to have cleared that up for you. Please update your script.
 
Bowfinger said:
Strangely enough, Tajmabot neglected to quote a key point from this NPR story:
"While some may be tempted to read this as evidence of media bias, the leader of Pew's Journalism Project said that isn't a conclusion one can draw from the study."​

Once again, Tajjy, honest media coverage of Donnie tends to be negative for the same reason media coverage of the Hindenburg disaster was negative: flaming gas bags are bad.

Happy to have cleared that up for you. Please update your script.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. Never stop tajjy.
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Fanatical Meat said:
You realize Trump would frown upon this weak, weak compliment.
Look at Pence he delivered on compliment to Trump every 12-15 seconds for slightly more than 3 minutes.
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While his head was up Trump's ass with Trump's cock in his mouth at the same time. It was an amazing demonstration of the art of truly sucking up.
 
What kind of sickness is upon us that we'd elect a President who expects to be treated that way by his subordinates & supporters?

It's some kind of really, really screwed up leadership cult shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

Trump saw that decades of relentless right wing agitprop & his own celebrity created the opportunity to run the greatest con of his life & that's exactly what he's doing.
 
interchange said:
I don't think the economy is "fixed". But it is clear that the success Trump touts in things tied to economy is continuation of a trend started before him. How much might be attributed to Trump, however, is impossible to measure. Any such claims are opinion.



Well, that's a more value-oriented proposition. Unless they propose a specific measurement, you can't really state that it's a lie but really an opinion. You could say it isn't an opinion based on any evidence you consider rational, and I'd probably find your stance compelling, but it's still opinion.



I'm guessing this refers to immigration, trade partnerships, paris accord, etc. for which I don't think his policies are in American interest, but again this seems to be value-based and a matter of opinion.



Sure he did. You remember his tirades about the NFL?



This is closest to outright lie to me, since there was clearly false assertion that Obama didn't use Merry Christmas. I could see how, generally, Trump's more controversial speech is interpreted as validating those who choose not to be "politically correct", but I agree Trump really hasn't done anything that enhances our freedoms here, and certainly saying "Merry Christmas" wasn't under any actual political threat before him.
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If they aren't based on facts then they are based on feelings. Feelings aren't facts, opinions, aren't facts without the data to back them up. Trumps commercial was a propaganda piece and nothing more.
 
ivwshane said:
They are lies if the facts say otherwise. Again, by all means, show me any data that backs up any of the commercials claims. How long should I wait?
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I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said. A change in your perspective is going to have to come from your choice.
 
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