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Coming backto Intel after seven years

DivideBYZero

DivideBYZero

Lifer
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Socket 775 2.13GHz

Asustek S775 Intel P965 ATX Audio Lan Asustek S775 Intel P965 ATX Audio Lan

Corsair Memory TWIN2X1024A-6400 2x512MB 240-Pin DIMM XMS2-6400 (x2 for 2Gb)

Sapphire Technology Radeon X1950PRO 256MB DDR3 PCIE Dual DVI TVO

How is the stock cooling on these?
 
CPU stock cooling = fine unless you want to overclock
Mobo cooling = hard to say, since there are a hell of a lot of Asus P965 mobos out there
RAM cooling = just fine unless you run 2.35V+ 24/7 😉
GPU cooling = not great, but enough for the cards to run fine & maybe even overclock a little
 
Stock cooling was fine up to 3ghz on the E6300 I tested it on. As long as you can stay with no vcore boost you could and should be able to oc with the stock cooler to higher then any AMD stock or oc'd on air can compete with.
 
all these threads about the e4300 are tempting me, probably in the next few weeks ill make the jump too 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Stock cooling was fine up to 3ghz on the E6300 I tested it on. As long as you can stay with no vcore boost you could and should be able to oc with the stock cooler to higher then any AMD stock or oc'd on air can compete with.
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Sweeeet.

I didn't even know you still hung out here. How's it going? You still an Intel whore to the bone? 😉
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Duvie
Stock cooling was fine up to 3ghz on the E6300 I tested it on. As long as you can stay with no vcore boost you could and should be able to oc with the stock cooler to higher then any AMD stock or oc'd on air can compete with.
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Sweeeet.

I didn't even know you still hung out here. How's it going? You still an Intel whore to the bone? 😉
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Nope! I went A64 and X2 from Dec 04 until Sep 06...I just came back to INtel a few months back....
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Duvie
Stock cooling was fine up to 3ghz on the E6300 I tested it on. As long as you can stay with no vcore boost you could and should be able to oc with the stock cooler to higher then any AMD stock or oc'd on air can compete with.
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Sweeeet.

I didn't even know you still hung out here. How's it going? You still an Intel whore to the bone? 😉
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Nope! I went A64 and X2 from Dec 04 until Sep 06...I just came back to INtel a few months back....
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Hehe, pretty much like me, except I was pushing XP's to thier limits prior to A64.
 
I had it an antec sonata 2 case with 120mm intake and exhast and a 92mm side fan and the temps were only at 60-64c under orthos load at 3.15ghz (7x450), but that was mainly cause I goo do it at near default vcore...Since most people dont run orthos as an app most things likely will load in the high 50's. I folded with it for weeks and coretemp was only about 58-60c....that is fine

You get a good chip and can do 3ghz at default vcore then stock cooling can be fine
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
I had it an antec sonata 2 case with 120mm intake and exhast and a 92mm side fan and the temps were only at 60-64c under orthos load at 3.15ghz (7x450), but that was mainly cause I goo do it at near default vcore...Since most people dont run orthos as an app most things likely will load in the high 50's. I folded with it for weeks and coretemp was only about 58-60c....that is fine

You get a good chip and can do 3ghz at default vcore then stock cooling can be fine
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Interesting, this is the first time I've heard that low 60s are safe on a C2D.
 
Originally posted by: Dolorous Dave
Originally posted by: Duvie
I had it an antec sonata 2 case with 120mm intake and exhast and a 92mm side fan and the temps were only at 60-64c under orthos load at 3.15ghz (7x450), but that was mainly cause I goo do it at near default vcore...Since most people dont run orthos as an app most things likely will load in the high 50's. I folded with it for weeks and coretemp was only about 58-60c....that is fine

You get a good chip and can do 3ghz at default vcore then stock cooling can be fine
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Interesting, this is the first time I've heard that low 60s are safe on a C2D.
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Read!! that is with orthos which is going to produce highest temps and not normal for real world apps. It was perfectly fine running under 60c....

Those are coretemps...actually digital reading at the core. The Tjunction for C2D's is 85c and that is where damage is really going to occur...

Would you guys be happier if I qouted temps that Gigabyte was saying? If so I saw low 50's running F@H....Those are calibrated Tcase temps. If it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling to say lower temps then by all means...

You people need to start getting a clue to what coretemp is reporting and what is the tjunction...

60c is fine....70c would not be suggested for any prolong period....


If this is the first time you have heard this then you clearly haven't been listening....

GPUs on a higher process run under loads in the 70-80's
 
Defensive much? I wasn't trying to be a smartass, I was trying to verify what you were saying. I've posted a number of threads in the last week asking about this very same thing but no one has come up with a definitive answer.

There are many threads on other forums that state 60C is the highest a C2D should go, regardless of the TJunction. I test with Orthos as well and use TAT and CoreTemp to measure, and I was told multiple times that loading at 62C was way too high at 3GHZ on my E6400.

If it makes you feel better to talk down to me, go right on ahead. Your 15000 posts show that you have a much higher tolerance for retardation than I do.
 
Well you say you haven't read this but I go over this a lot in here. This has been discussed before.

Tj ot Tjunction is the point at which intel own intermal monitor will shut down the chip. The fail safe thermal throttle. Tj by intel's own accounts is used as a spec for processors without an IHS (integrated heat spreader) but since we have started using coretemp more andmore of us start to report these temps. Intel only specs C2D processors with Tcase max temps. These are temps taken at the top centro fthe core just beneath the IHS. This temp by intels own account is for designers to design cooling solution for. Intels specs 60.2c on the E6600...It is slightly higher fo rthe quad core 2.4ghz model.

If people are familar a 60c tcase temp would likely be closer to 70-75c at the core. That is why most dont concerned with 60c in coretemp, becuase most other temperaure applications that dont read fromthis internal thermometer read 10-15c.

My Gigabyte bvoards are 10-15c (depending on my 3 diff boards) cooler then reported by TAT and Coretemp.....My Asus board is a whopping 23-25c cooler.
 
Just booted this system and fiddled about for 2 minutes. Got 3.0Ghz easy, no tweaks apart from FSB@375.

Just about posted @3.2 but need to tweak to keep it there and I have no time right now.

I'll still be please if 3.0Ghz is all I get. What is that equivelent to if I wanted to buy it stock at that speed?
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I'll still be please if 3.0Ghz is all I get. What is that equivelent to if I wanted to buy it stock at that speed?
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The stock X6800 EE runs at 2.93GHz (costing between $900-$1000 retail).
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Socket 775 2.13GHz

Asustek S775 Intel P965 ATX Audio Lan Asustek S775 Intel P965 ATX Audio Lan

Corsair Memory TWIN2X1024A-6400 2x512MB 240-Pin DIMM XMS2-6400 (x2 for 2Gb)

Sapphire Technology Radeon X1950PRO 256MB DDR3 PCIE Dual DVI TVO

How is the stock cooling on these?
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Where did you get your stuff?
 
Originally posted by: slag
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Socket 775 2.13GHz

Asustek S775 Intel P965 ATX Audio Lan Asustek S775 Intel P965 ATX Audio Lan

Corsair Memory TWIN2X1024A-6400 2x512MB 240-Pin DIMM XMS2-6400 (x2 for 2Gb)

Sapphire Technology Radeon X1950PRO 256MB DDR3 PCIE Dual DVI TVO

How is the stock cooling on these?
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Where did you get your stuff?
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Dabs.... .co.uk!
 
This rig is almost three years old and I'm still running it at 3Ghz. Running a CPU faster = longevity, as long as you don't push too far.
 
Stock coolers on those original C2D chips were actually pretty decent. I ran my first e6400 @ 2.66GHz on a craptastic Gigabyte 965P motherboard (had to push vcore too high for comfort to run stable past that) for like eight months. Then grabbed a deal on an IP35-e and the exact same setup ran 3.2GHz with zero issues (and no extra vcore at all) for the next year and a half, rock solid with load temps in the mid 50's. Now have an e7200 @ 3.16GHz (on the same IP35-e) and an e8400 @ 3.8GHz (P5Q Pro). Had to get secondary coolers for these chips as the stock coolers for the second generation C2D is not as good as the originals.
 
DivideBYZero said:
This rig is almost three years old and I'm still running it at 3Ghz. Running a CPU faster = longevity, as long as you don't push too far.
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Its life is still shorter than if you hadn't overclocked it at all, but it could be the difference from only living 8 years instead of 10 years. In either case, the CPU will still be around years after it's outlived its use. Either way, glad to hear it's still running strong.
 
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