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I really wish Comey answered McCain more directly, i.e.:
Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server had no connection whatsoever to Russian interference with our election. We concluded that criminal charges against her were not appropriate in regards to using a private email server. To my knowledge, no single person has been guaranteed any protection from any charges that might stem from the completely separate investigation into the Russian counter-intelligence investigation. Since it was ongoing when I left the FBI, I cannot comment as to any evidence against any persons involved in this investigation in an open setting.​
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I thought it went well. Comey was composed, answered definitively where he could (and some interesting allusions where he couldn't, like the direct trump -> russia connection), and explained his actions thoroughly which, as a detail-oriented person, I appreciate. Gotta hand it to him, he's got a mind like a steel trap, was rattling off dates for random phone calls from months ago like it was normal for him.

Also, what in shit's name was McCain doing? That turned into a complete clusterfuck. 'Well how do you KNOW Clinton isn't involved with Russians too?! DOUBLE STANDARD?!'. Nuttier than squirrel turds.
 

feralkid

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Between all these banana republicans furiously trying to polish that orange turd and McCain deciding to act like the posterboy for Alzheimers and dementia, just... wow.

'Party before country' is now the official slogan of the GOP, at least until it's not full of Putin sucking Quislings.


Quite a day already... and it's barely past 10 am where I sit.

Lots to ponder, but I am convinced I am witnessing the downfall of an almost comical, tyrannically oafish Republican joke on America...for the second time in my life.

Also, thanks for using "Quislings"...I haven't heard that in a while.


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brandonbull

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It's interesting to witness on one level but very sad on another. What happens when we've had the fourth or fifth generation of dummies teaching the next generation? How many graduates of colleges like Evergreen State can the nation absorb?

If the Left is allowed to bring about their anti-american agenda, it will be a lot. They can't wait to tax the working class to death so they can trickle down the money so every SJW can get their free Liberal Arts or Pol Sci degrees at $100k per head. Those gated compounds that the lefty elites hide in don't come cheap. I bet Elizabeth Warren felt so terrible after collecting a 1%er income from Harvard and her consecutive federal appointments.
 

brandonbull

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Welp, Comey's not holding back:

- The President & his administration lied to me
- they lied about the FBI being in disarray

The major investigations under Comey's watch that were botched and the FBI isn't in disarray?
 

brandonbull

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McCain went full on "grandpa with alzheimers" there. Wow. Just stunningly bad series for him. Maybe he missed nap time.

He sounded like most Liberals since the election. Stammering around in a confused state cobbling together a bunch of nonsense in the hopes of sounding like they have a clue.
 

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I've only seen about 80% of it, so I may have missed some things. Things that bugged me:
  1. Comey laid out plenty of evidence suggesting Trump intimated that his job depended upon following his directions RE: publicly stating Trump wasn't a target of the investigation and/or going easy on Flynn. I wish he would have plainly stated that he felt Trump would or might fire him for not doing these things.
  2. Comey made it clear that he kept his private meeting with Trump under wraps within the bureau because, although it didn't affect his actions, he felt it absolutely would influence his agents if they learned that the president said such things
  • Why, then, after he was fired, did this consideration change?
  • If his intent in releasing the information publicly was to get a special prosecutor appointed, why didn't he make more attempts within the DOJ to make this happen without releasing the info that would damage the investigation?
  • Why go through an intermediary to release the memo? I'm certain he could have found a way to securely contact the press anonymously without leaving his computer desk.
I do wonder if Comey was partially motivated by spite. His concern was clearly legitimate. And the response from the DOJ to keep Trump from crossing the line again was inadequate. And I don't think he could trust the administration. But I don't see why he couldn't have tried harder and used the media as a backup if they failed to act (although would need to be careful as to not make it blackmail).

All this said, the most chilling part of his testimony was this:

HEINRICH: The president has repeatedly talked about the Russian investigation into the U.S. -- or Russia's involvement in the U.S. Election cycle as a hoax and fake news. Can you talk a little bit about what you saw as FBI director and, obviously, only the parts that you can share in this setting that demonstrate how serious this action actually was and why there was an investigation in the first place?

COMEY: Yes, sir. There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever. The Russians interfered in our election during the 2016 cycle. They did with purpose. They did it with sophistication. They did it with overwhelming technical efforts. It was an active measures campaign driven from the top of that government. There is no fuzz on that. It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community and the members of this committee have seen the intelligence. It's not a close call. That happened. That's about as unfake as you can possibly get. It is very, very serious, which is why it's so refreshing to see a bipartisan focus on that. This is about America, not about a particular party.

HEINRICH: That is a hostile act by the Russian government against this country?

COMEY: Yes, sir.

HEINRICH: Did the president in any of those interactions that you've shared with us today ask you what you should be doing or what our government should be doing or the intelligence community to protect America against Russian interference in our election system?

COMEY: I don't recall a conversation like that.

HEINRICH: Never?

COMEY: No.

HEINRICH: Do you find it --

COMEY: Not with President Trump.

HEINRICH: Right.

COMEY: I attended a fair number of meetings on that with President Obama.

HEINRICH: Do you find it odd that the president seemed unconcerned by Russia's actions in our election?

COMEY: I can't answer that because I don't know what other conversations he had with other advisers or other intelligence community leaders. I just don't know sitting here.

HEINRICH: Did you have any interactions with the president that suggested he was taking that hostile action seriously.

COMEY: I don't remember any interactions with the president other than the initial briefing on January the 6th. I don't remember -- could be wrong, but I don't remember any conversations with him at all about that.


The dude was the director of the agency leading the investigation into Russia's interference with our election. I cannot imagine that Trump could possibly have made any steps to acknowledge, address, or plan for even the possibility that what Comey says is unequivocal without Comey's direct involvement. He ought to have been invitee #1 on the list for any such actions.
 
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LOL <--- Original commentary.

Nothing but a big fat nothing burger! <--- More commentary
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HomerJS

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I've only seen about 80% of it, so I may have missed some things. Things that bugged me:
  1. Comey laid out plenty of evidence suggesting Trump intimated that his job depended upon following his directions RE: publicly stating Trump wasn't a target of the investigation and/or going easy on Flynn. I wish he would have plainly stated that he felt Trump would or might fire him for not doing these things.
  2. Comey made it clear that he kept his private meeting with Trump under wraps within the bureau because, although it didn't affect his actions, he felt it absolutely would influence his agents if they learned that the president said such things
  • Why, then, after he was fired, did this consideration change?
  • If his intent in releasing the information publicly was to get a special prosecutor appointed, why didn't he make more attempts within the DOJ to make this happen without releasing the info that would damage the investigation?
  • Why go through an intermediary to release the memo? I'm certain he could have found a way to securely contact the press anonymously without leaving his computer desk.
I do wonder if Comey was partially motivated by spite. His concern was clearly legitimate. And the response from the DOJ to keep Trump from crossing the line again was inadequate. And I don't think he could trust the administration. But I don't see why he couldn't have tried harder and used the media as a backup if they failed to act (although would need to be careful as to not make it blackmail).

All this said, the most chilling part of his testimony was this:

HEINRICH: The president has repeatedly talked about the Russian investigation into the U.S. -- or Russia's involvement in the U.S. Election cycle as a hoax and fake news. Can you talk a little bit about what you saw as FBI director and, obviously, only the parts that you can share in this setting that demonstrate how serious this action actually was and why there was an investigation in the first place?

COMEY: Yes, sir. There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever. The Russians interfered in our election during the 2016 cycle. They did with purpose. They did it with sophistication. They did it with overwhelming technical efforts. It was an active measures campaign driven from the top of that government. There is no fuzz on that. It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community and the members of this committee have seen the intelligence. It's not a close call. That happened. That's about as unfake as you can possibly get. It is very, very serious, which is why it's so refreshing to see a bipartisan focus on that. This is about America, not about a particular party.

HEINRICH: That is a hostile act by the Russian government against this country?

COMEY: Yes, sir.

HEINRICH: Did the president in any of those interactions that you've shared with us today ask you what you should be doing or what our government should be doing or the intelligence community to protect America against Russian interference in our election system?

COMEY: I don't recall a conversation like that.

HEINRICH: Never?

COMEY: No.

HEINRICH: Do you find it --

COMEY: Not with President Trump.

HEINRICH: Right.

COMEY: I attended a fair number of meetings on that with President Obama.

HEINRICH: Do you find it odd that the president seemed unconcerned by Russia's actions in our election?

COMEY: I can't answer that because I don't know what other conversations he had with other advisers or other intelligence community leaders. I just don't know sitting here.

HEINRICH: Did you have any interactions with the president that suggested he was taking that hostile action seriously.

COMEY: I don't remember any interactions with the president other than the initial briefing on January the 6th. I don't remember -- could be wrong, but I don't remember any conversations with him at all about that.


The dude was the director of the agency leading the investigation into Russia's interference with our election. I cannot imagine that Trump could possibly have made any steps to acknowledge, address, or plan for even the possibility that what Comey says is unequivocal without Comey's direct involvement. He ought to have been invitee #1 on the list for any such actions.
This exchange shows complete malpractice in office. Of course the usual suspect will find an excuse. Trump used their time to get Flynn off the hook and not getting to the bottom of the Russian interference. Trump didn't give a rats ass about Russia attacking us.
 

fskimospy

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At this point the case for obstruction of justice seems very strong. As I read in the Washington Post this spells it out pretty clearly:

“I think that the stuff that’s now been put on the record, if you add it all up together, to me it spells obstruction of justice,” Ohlin said. “The pieces are (1) Trump demanding loyalty, (2) Trump telling Comey or directing Comey to end the Flynn or close the Flynn investigation (3) Trump firing Comey when Comey refuses to close the Russia investigation, and then (4) Trump admitting on national television that the reason he fired Comey was because of the Russia investigation and not any of the other reasons cited in the memo.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...0c031eab644_story.html?utm_term=.5722fb8b1d94
 

fskimospy

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Hahaha, we ALL called this one from you. Thanks for not disappointing!

Nothing to see here guys, the former head of the FBI just came out and said that the President of the United States directed him to drop an investigation into his national security adviser's lies to the FBI about his involvement with a hostile foreign power. He also said the president lied repeatedly about the nature of their interactions and that he was fired due to his refusal to drop the Russia investigation.

Nothing to see at all!

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So FOX literally reports that Comey says Trump did not tell him to back off Flynn ? He outright confirmed that Trump did ask him to, and he felt he was directed to, multiple times. No wonder the US right are so delusional if their #1 news source straight lies to them. I guess the assumption is they can't be bothered to actually look at the testimony and prefer a quick sound bite supporting their CDB.
 

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You snowflakes still grasping at straws... You got nothing on Trump even after the testimony.

Awesome feeling to see the left with nothing to show for their slandering.
 

HomerJS

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If the Left is allowed to bring about their anti-american agenda, it will be a lot. They can't wait to tax the working class to death so they can trickle down the money so every SJW can get their free Liberal Arts or Pol Sci degrees at $100k per head. Those gated compounds that the lefty elites hide in don't come cheap. I bet Elizabeth Warren felt so terrible after collecting a 1%er income from Harvard and her consecutive federal appointments.
Having the Russians hack our election and the President not even inquiring about it is anti-American as it gets.
 

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All this said, the most chilling part of his testimony was this:

HEINRICH: The president has repeatedly talked about the Russian investigation into the U.S. -- or Russia's involvement in the U.S. Election cycle as a hoax and fake news. Can you talk a little bit about what you saw as FBI director and, obviously, only the parts that you can share in this setting that demonstrate how serious this action actually was and why there was an investigation in the first place?

COMEY: Yes, sir. There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever. The Russians interfered in our election during the 2016 cycle. They did with purpose. They did it with sophistication. They did it with overwhelming technical efforts. It was an active measures campaign driven from the top of that government. There is no fuzz on that. It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community and the members of this committee have seen the intelligence. It's not a close call. That happened. That's about as unfake as you can possibly get. It is very, very serious, which is why it's so refreshing to see a bipartisan focus on that. This is about America, not about a particular party.

HEINRICH: That is a hostile act by the Russian government against this country?

COMEY: Yes, sir.

HEINRICH: Did the president in any of those interactions that you've shared with us today ask you what you should be doing or what our government should be doing or the intelligence community to protect America against Russian interference in our election system?

COMEY: I don't recall a conversation like that.

HEINRICH: Never?

COMEY: No.

HEINRICH: Do you find it --

COMEY: Not with President Trump.

HEINRICH: Right.

COMEY: I attended a fair number of meetings on that with President Obama.

HEINRICH: Do you find it odd that the president seemed unconcerned by Russia's actions in our election?

COMEY: I can't answer that because I don't know what other conversations he had with other advisers or other intelligence community leaders. I just don't know sitting here.

HEINRICH: Did you have any interactions with the president that suggested he was taking that hostile action seriously.

COMEY: I don't remember any interactions with the president other than the initial briefing on January the 6th. I don't remember -- could be wrong, but I don't remember any conversations with him at all about that.


The dude was the director of the agency leading the investigation into Russia's interference with our election. I cannot imagine that Trump could possibly have made any steps to acknowledge, address, or plan for even the possibility that what Comey says is unequivocal without Comey's direct involvement. He ought to have been invitee #1 on the list for any such actions.

That exchange is one for the history books.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I've only seen about 80% of it, so I may have missed some things. Things that bugged me:
  1. Comey laid out plenty of evidence suggesting Trump intimated that his job depended upon following his directions RE: publicly stating Trump wasn't a target of the investigation and/or going easy on Flynn. I wish he would have plainly stated that he felt Trump would or might fire him for not doing these things.
  2. Comey made it clear that he kept his private meeting with Trump under wraps within the bureau because, although it didn't affect his actions, he felt it absolutely would influence his agents if they learned that the president said such things
  • Why, then, after he was fired, did this consideration change?
  • If his intent in releasing the information publicly was to get a special prosecutor appointed, why didn't he make more attempts within the DOJ to make this happen without releasing the info that would damage the investigation?
  • Why go through an intermediary to release the memo? I'm certain he could have found a way to securely contact the press anonymously without leaving his computer desk.
I do wonder if Comey was partially motivated by spite. His concern was clearly legitimate. And the response from the DOJ to keep Trump from crossing the line again was inadequate. And I don't think he could trust the administration. But I don't see why he couldn't have tried harder and used the media as a backup if they failed to act (although would need to be careful as to not make it blackmail).

All this said, the most chilling part of his testimony was this:

HEINRICH: The president has repeatedly talked about the Russian investigation into the U.S. -- or Russia's involvement in the U.S. Election cycle as a hoax and fake news. Can you talk a little bit about what you saw as FBI director and, obviously, only the parts that you can share in this setting that demonstrate how serious this action actually was and why there was an investigation in the first place?

COMEY: Yes, sir. There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever. The Russians interfered in our election during the 2016 cycle. They did with purpose. They did it with sophistication. They did it with overwhelming technical efforts. It was an active measures campaign driven from the top of that government. There is no fuzz on that. It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community and the members of this committee have seen the intelligence. It's not a close call. That happened. That's about as unfake as you can possibly get. It is very, very serious, which is why it's so refreshing to see a bipartisan focus on that. This is about America, not about a particular party.

HEINRICH: That is a hostile act by the Russian government against this country?

COMEY: Yes, sir.

HEINRICH: Did the president in any of those interactions that you've shared with us today ask you what you should be doing or what our government should be doing or the intelligence community to protect America against Russian interference in our election system?

COMEY: I don't recall a conversation like that.

HEINRICH: Never?

COMEY: No.

HEINRICH: Do you find it --

COMEY: Not with President Trump.

HEINRICH: Right.

COMEY: I attended a fair number of meetings on that with President Obama.

HEINRICH: Do you find it odd that the president seemed unconcerned by Russia's actions in our election?

COMEY: I can't answer that because I don't know what other conversations he had with other advisers or other intelligence community leaders. I just don't know sitting here.

HEINRICH: Did you have any interactions with the president that suggested he was taking that hostile action seriously.

COMEY: I don't remember any interactions with the president other than the initial briefing on January the 6th. I don't remember -- could be wrong, but I don't remember any conversations with him at all about that.


The dude was the director of the agency leading the investigation into Russia's interference with our election. I cannot imagine that Trump could possibly have made any steps to acknowledge, address, or plan for even the possibility that what Comey says is unequivocal without Comey's direct involvement. He ought to have been invitee #1 on the list for any such actions.

That exchange is one of the bigger signs of fire, the fact that Trump just doesn't seem to GAF about Russia. That tells me he's aware of it, and is dismissing it due to his awareness of the subject. It's just not a surprise to him due to his involvement.