Comcast Overage Rate Changes

[alkemyst]

The debate guys is Comcast and their 300GB cap. Other providers are more lenient, but they have smaller networks more than likely and different things going on.

 

[poofyhairguy]

300 isn't the worst cap. The 50GB for $10 is kinda expensive though IMHO.

 

[alkemyst]

You also get a separate support line, right?

They give you a gimp.

 

[kinev]

Hmmmm metered system. If you go over 300 GB they charge you $10 extra per 50 GB.

So, if you only download 250 GB, they credit your bill $10, right? Right? RIGHT???

 

[ch33zw1z]

Hmmmm metered system. If you go over 300 GB they charge you $10 extra per 50 GB.

So, if you only download 250 GB, they credit your bill $10, right? Right? RIGHT???

That sounds good to me. Rewards for those who conserve.

 

[Leros]

300GB a month is an insane amount of data. It's like 2 DVDs of data per day, every day.

If you have those needs, one should be on a business account.

Seems reasonable now, but it won't seem reasonable in 5-10 years and I highly doubt Comcast will raise the numbers a the same speed normal usage increases.

Nobody cares right now because it seems reasonable, then we all get used to the plan, then in a few years they can start charging extra as the average person uses over 300GB a month.

 

[sourn]

Comcast is turning into a glorified cell phone company now.

I had to sign an agreement with them last night to lower my bill with them by $60, but had to sign a 2 year contract. When the fvck did cable companies start making us have contracts with them just to keep our prices reasonable??

Fack this noise, Fios needs to start becoming wayyyy more popular.

O come on.. 300gb is plenty that's quite a bit of downloading and uploading.

I'm a torrent freak, steam, stream, etc.. I have yet to run into the cap. You're doing some serious down/uploading 24/7 if you're hitting it.

 

[SunnyD]

As long as they give me the ability to opt out of the overage thing being automatically added to my account, I'm fine with it.

It's like overdraft protection. I had it removed from my bank accounts for a reason.

 

[alkemyst]

Seems reasonable now, but it won't seem reasonable in 5-10 years and I highly doubt Comcast will raise the numbers a the same speed normal usage increases.

Nobody cares right now because it seems reasonable, then we all get used to the plan, then in a few years they can start charging extra as the average person uses over 300GB a month.

LOL at projecting out 5-10 years.

 

[MaxPayne63]

Hmmmm metered system. If you go over 300 GB they charge you $10 extra per 50 GB.

So, if you only download 250 GB, they credit your bill $10, right? Right? RIGHT???

Why do people think fees are related to the quantity of services provided?

Overage surcharges = disincentive to go over the limit. No one has ever claimed the 301st gb costs more than the 300th.

It's the same way with, well, a lot of stuff. [mandatory car analogy, since we're on the internet] Does Driving 74 in a 65 really cause $75 more wear and tear or aggregate probability of a collision than driving 73? [/mandatory car analogy, since we're on the internet] If I pay my credit card bill on the 3rd instead of the due date on the 2nd do I really incur $[NFC] in additional costs to the CCC? Of course not. Those fees are disincentives.

 

[rudeguy]

Hmmmm metered system. If you go over 300 GB they charge you $10 extra per 50 GB.

So, if you only download 250 GB, they credit your bill $10, right? Right? RIGHT???

The OP has already admitted to abusing the system just because he's "lazy". He admitted to breaking numerous laws in the process of abusing the system.

I fail to see how this thread is doing anything besides making the OP out to be a lazy, inconsiderate criminal.

You can all thank people like the OP for jacking up costs for us average users.

 

[ch33zw1z]

LOL at projecting out 5-10 years.

So you're betting on Comcast being dynamic with the cap, and changing with customer demands?

 

[Genx87]

I received this e-mail earlier from Comcast about overage charges:



The gist is that if you go over 300GB, you get charged $10 and allotted another 50GB. That will then happen again if you go over 350GB and ad infinitum. Although, you won't get charged for the first three times you go over.

I wonder if I need to upgrade to a business account. :hmm:

My buddy is in big trouble. His GF + 3 kids and her mother moved in with him. Mother doesnt work and the kids watch Netflix all day. I kid you not, in August he consumed about 90GBs a day lol.

 

[Doppel]

I'm okay with the concept of caps and people paying more if they use more, but with bandwidth margins increasing for businesses (I know cable companies whine about power users but this part of their business is a huge money maker and bandwidth is coming down in cost fast), it seems another way to screw certain users.

Charging you if you go over 300GB is fine, but $10 per 50GB is fucking outrageous. It doesn't cost them anywhere damn close to $10 for 50GB. They are doing it because you probably have no other options for high speed in your area.

300GB is about 100 hours of HD video. Seems like a lot (3 hours/day), but with enough people in your house you could hit it fast. If you're a cord-cutter, most of your stuff is streamed.

I agree that a lot of the heavy users are just torrenting tons of shit they don't need/won't even ever watch.

 

[rudeguy]

I'm okay with the concept of caps and people paying more if they use more, but with bandwidth margins increasing for businesses (I know cable companies whine about power users but this part of their business is a huge money maker and bandwidth is coming down in cost fast), it seems another way to screw certain users.

Charging you if you go over 300GB is fine, but $10 per 50GB is fucking outrageous. It doesn't cost them anywhere damn close to $10 for 50GB. They are doing it because you probably have no other options for high speed in your area.

300GB is about 100 hours of HD video. Seems like a lot (3 hours/day), but with enough people in your house you could hit it fast. If you're a cord-cutter, most of your stuff is streamed.

I agree that a lot of the heavy users are just torrenting tons of shit they don't need/won't even ever watch.

They are doing it for 2 reasons:
1. to make a profit
2. because they can

Its just that simple.

 

[jaha2000]

I dont see the issue here. You use more than me you pay more right?
This is the system the airlines should develop. All our our tickets should be based off of weight (after all, that is the direct cost to them). 400 lb dudes ticket should cost more than my 175 lb self. Instead, that fat dude puts his arm fat all in my seat and refuses to sit next to his fat wife cause they dont fit next to each other..

 

[postmortemIA]

The debate guys is Comcast and their 300GB cap. Other providers are more lenient, but they have smaller networks more than likely and different things going on.

My cable provider, Mediacom, has 250GB enforced cap. It was enacted month ago. Wait and see, most of them will do this by the end of this year.

 

[techs]

So much fail in this thread.

First off, Comcast does not just sell business accounts to individuals. So the argument some are making that people should just get a business account is not valid.

Secondly, the idea that everyone, or most people, who do a lot of downloading is false. Or lets just say there is no evidence to prove it.

Finally, and this is the big one. The only real issue is the number of people who download during peak times. ISP's have a responsibility to build up their networks so that during peak times a very large majority get peak or near peak speeds. During non peak hours ISP's have huge amounts of excess capacity.

If ISP's really wanted to free up bandwidth during peak hours, than they could boost speeds during times of limited demand and allow heavy users to do their downloading at the off times.

 

[SunnyD]

So much fail in this thread.

First off, Comcast does not just sell business accounts to individuals. So the argument some are making that people should just get a business account is not valid.

Secondly, the idea that everyone, or most people, who do a lot of downloading is false. Or lets just say there is no evidence to prove it.

Finally, and this is the big one. The only real issue is the number of people who download during peak times. ISP's have a responsibility to build up their networks so that during peak times a very large majority get peak or near peak speeds. During non peak hours ISP's have huge amounts of excess capacity.

If ISP's really wanted to free up bandwidth during peak hours, than they could boost speeds during times of limited demand and allow heavy users to do their downloading at the off times.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Sheesh... your football posts make you look stupid enough. You should have quit while you're ahead.

Comcast will sell a business class account to anyone that will want one. Go ahead, ask me how I know.

 

[techs]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Sheesh... your football posts make you look stupid enough. You should have quit while you're ahead.

Comcast will sell a business class account to anyone that will want one. Go ahead, ask me how I know.

I know that they required my ein number or the business registry from my State.

btw the issue of usage is very similar to the cell phone issues of few years ago. When the cell system was not fully built out they often gave you unlimited minutes during off peak times. Now that the cell system has expanded they have dropped those plans.

 

[rudeguy]

I know that they required my ein number or the business registry from my State.

btw the issue of usage is very similar to the cell phone issues of few years ago. When the cell system was not fully built out they often gave you unlimited minutes during off peak times. Now that the cell system has expanded they have dropped those plans.

the can also use your social

I can set up a business account for rudeguy inc without an EIN

 

[Gunslinger08]

Seems like I use around 110GB a month. I would say that I'm a pretty heavy user - I download Steam games/updates, watch a lot of Netflix, and browse the Internet quite a bit. I don't think that 300GB is unreasonable. Even a family of 6 or 7 should be able to stay under the limit, if they are all heavy "average users". If they are downloading "Linux distros" constantly or using online backup services to repeatedly restore their computers or something out of the norm, they may have issues.

 

[techs]

the can also use your social

I can set up a business account for rudeguy inc without an EIN

I can't speak for anyone but myself and the other posters in this forum who have, from time to time, said they needed some proof to set up a business account.

 

[SunnyD]

I can't speak for anyone but myself and the other posters in this forum who have, from time to time, said they needed some proof to set up a business account.

So the self-employed contractor who has no actual "employer", EIN or registered business in your state is shit out of luck? Heh... you're gullible. Either that or Comcast just hates you.

 

[ch33zw1z]

So the self-employed contractor who has no actual "employer", EIN or registered business in your state is shit out of luck? Heh... you're gullible. Either that or Comcast just hates you.

Easy guys. Comcast told me the same thing. I chose not to lie. I'm sure if you are self-employed, etc...they'll take that into account.