Comcast Overage Rate Changes

[poofyhairguy]

I would have told him "documents. Lots of documents"

I think I told him "I use more Netflix than any person you ever met."

 

[poofyhairguy]

300GB a month is an insane amount of data. It's like 2 DVDs of data per day, every day.

If you have those needs, one should be on a business account.

DVDs bro? That is weak, I never watch SD content unless I have to. Heck I avoid 720p if I can.

And yes they keep telling me to get the business account but I don't need the dedicated IP.

 

[rudeguy]

Funny part is the OP already admitted to downloading blu rays and YouTube videos. Then he pretends not to be a pirate.


Arrrrrrr

 

[alkemyst]

DVDs bro? That is weak, I never watch SD content unless I have to. Heck I avoid 720p if I can.

And yes they keep telling me to get the business account but I don't need the dedicated IP.

DVD's as all DVD type medias including BluRay.

99% of the time these caps are hit due to piracy of media, many just downloading things they never even view, watch or listen too.

 

[Aikouka]

Hmm one thing that I ought to do to try and cut down on bandwidth is delete iOS apps that I don't use from my PC. Honestly, it's more of a complaint about Apple's app update system as even a small change requires a full download. Imagine what happens if XCOM for iOS (5GB ) gets updated! I had a 1GB app that got updated twice in one week, but I never play the app. So, I ought to delete it and stop wasting the bandwidth. That's actually why I only update apps via syncing to my PC as it may be a hassle, but it avoids both iOS devices downloading the same content.

And yes they keep telling me to get the business account but I don't need the dedicated IP.

Hmm a dedicated IP address might be nice. DynDNS used to be a free service, but it's pulled away from that quite a bit. I signed up under another e-mail, and after instituting their renew every month policy, I got my long-standing (free) account cancelled. Even after I renewed it, my router can no longer update my IP address, which makes it useless. It's only $25 per year for DynDNS Pro, which is far less than the ~$15-20 per month extra that it costs for a business account.

EDIT:

Funny part is the OP already admitted to downloading blu rays and YouTube videos. Then he pretends not to be a pirate.

More ad hominem garbage from you.

I admitted to downloading movies that I own. That isn't piracy; that's laziness. I download YouTube videos when YouTube fails to buffer the video for some unbeknownst reason. The funny part is that I can download them at 6MB/s, but they never buffer past a few percent regardless of how many times I try. Also, I download the MP4 files straight from YouTube. That isn't piracy.

Frankly, the only thing you're doing right here is living up to your username.

 

[alkemyst]

Hmm a dedicated IP address might be nice. DynDNS used to be a free service, but it's pulled away from that quite a bit. I signed up under another e-mail, and after instituting their renew every month policy, I got my long-standing (free) account cancelled. Even after I renewed it, my router can no longer update my IP address, which makes it useless. It's only $25 per year for DynDNS Pro, which is far less than the ~$15-20 per month extra that it costs for a business account.

Pirates don't like dedicated IP

 

[rudeguy]

Hmm one thing that I ought to do to try and cut down on bandwidth is delete iOS apps that I don't use from my PC. Honestly, it's more of a complaint about Apple's app update system as even a small change requires a full download. Imagine what happens if XCOM for iOS (5GB ) gets updated! I had a 1GB app that got updated twice in one week, but I never play the app. So, I ought to delete it and stop wasting the bandwidth. That's actually why I only update apps via syncing to my PC as it may be a hassle, but it avoids both iOS devices downloading the same content.



Hmm a dedicated IP address might be nice. DynDNS used to be a free service, but it's pulled away from that quite a bit. I signed up under another e-mail, and after instituting their renew every month policy, I got my long-standing (free) account cancelled. Even after I renewed it, my router can no longer update my IP address, which makes it useless. It's only $25 per year for DynDNS Pro, which is far less than the ~$15-20 per month extra that it costs for a business account.

EDIT:



More ad hominem garbage from you.

I admitted to downloading movies that I own. That isn't piracy; that's laziness. I download YouTube videos when YouTube fails to buffer the video for some unbeknownst reason. The funny part is that I can download them at 6MB/s, but they never buffer past a few percent regardless of how many times I try. Also, I download the MP4 files straight from YouTube. That isn't piracy.

Frankly, the only thing you're doing right here is living up to your username.

Great if it's not, give me your name and address. You just admitted to multiple DMCA violations. We'll let the FBI and RIAA know what a law abiding citizen you are.

 

[Newbian]

I admitted to downloading movies that I own. That isn't piracy; that's laziness. I download YouTube videos when YouTube fails to buffer the video for some unbeknownst reason. The funny part is that I can download them at 6MB/s, but they never buffer past a few percent regardless of how many times I try. Also, I download the MP4 files straight from YouTube. That isn't piracy.

Frankly, the only thing you're doing right here is living up to your username.

Use a ad-on like smart video as that works wonders on forcing the video to buffer.

Otherwise some material is illegal like music videos or movies they host.

 

[Aikouka]

Use a ad-on like smart video as that works wonders on forcing the video to buffer.

Otherwise some material is illegal like music videos or movies they host.

Thanks, I'll give that a try. It's mostly been with things like new movie trailers that simply won't load no matter how much I try. I also have some issues when I leave long videos on pause for a while, but normally, I just make note of my position, hit refresh, and jump back.

 

[notposting]

I've gone over 200 before. Usually in winter when we are all streaming streaming streaming. (cord cutters).

TBH, $0.20/GB for overages looks pretty damn good when you're used to seeing what AT&T and VZW can dish out.

edit: While the price of data delivery does keep going down, I can also understand they want to try to pace the increase in bandwidth usage. There is also the aspect of them trying to protect their legacy business (Comcast CEO spouted off last week) though.

As long as they keep stepping the cap upwards to keep pace with changing times all is good.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Pretty much all Netflix/media. We also have been getting movies on Amazon Prime. July was a big month for that, since my kid was on school vaca we tried to let him kick back after he wore himself out playing outside. Gotta rent some HD movies sometimes

 

[ch33zw1z]

I've gone over 200 before. Usually in winter when we are all streaming streaming streaming. (cord cutters).

TBH, $0.20/GB for overages looks pretty damn good when you're used to seeing what AT&T and VZW can dish out.

edit: While the price of data delivery does keep going down, I can also understand they want to try to pace the increase in bandwidth usage. There is also the aspect of them trying to protect their legacy business (Comcast CEO spouted off last week) though.

As long as they keep stepping the cap upwards to keep pace with changing times all is good.

""If you had to pay separately for just PBS, probably, sadly, not a majority of Americans would do that," argued Roberts. "So there's many channels, whether it's Discovery Channel or C-SPAN or many, many others, that just aren't viable. You can't just buy the sports section of The New York Times. You take the whole paper.""

from the link. I don't think that's a good sign when he starts making comparisons to the newspaper industry.

 

[Anubis]

people bitch about TWC but they don't have a cap and generally dont give a F

 

[poofyhairguy]

DVD's as all DVD type medias including BluRay.

99% of the time these caps are hit due to piracy of media, many just downloading things they never even view, watch or listen too.

I apologize Alky, I see what you are saying. Honestly I have stopped thinking in optical media terms.

And you got me on the not watching part. My wife does that.

 

[alkemyst]

I apologize Alky, I see what you are saying. Honestly I have stopped thinking in optical media terms.

And you got me on the not watching part. My wife does that.

When I did PC Tech work on the side, I'd come to homes full of so much porn, music downloads and burned DVD's; they'd have 3TB full and wonder why they keep running out of space.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Pirates don't like dedicated IP

Meh, it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Even with dynamic IP they can trace things back if you are an idiot.

I just can't think of what I would use it for.

 

[alkemyst]

Meh, it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Even with dynamic IP they can trace things back if you are an idiot.

I just can't think of what I would use it for.

In reality, dynamic vs static doesn't matter too much from the provider's perspective.

The point was, static IP shouldn't be a deal breaker if you need business-class bandwidth.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Meh, it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Even with dynamic IP they can trace things back if you are an idiot.

I just can't think of what I would use it for.

yea, my "dynamic" IP hasn't changed since I swapped my modem out 1.5 years ago. It's not like they don't have IP lease records anyways.

 

[rudeguy]

In reality, dynamic vs static doesn't matter too much from the provider's perspective.

The point was, static IP shouldn't be a deal breaker if you need business-class bandwidth.

Yes and no

The provider has a limited IP range, so static IPs limit what they can do if the network gets overloaded. That doesn't happen often, but they have to plan for the worst. I'd imagine they only time it happens in most markets is if there is a huge emergency. Then they can pull IPs from a part of the country that aren't being swamped. But again..that would be very rare. 9/11 is the only time I can imagine it getting to that point.

 

[poofyhairguy]

In reality, dynamic vs static doesn't matter too much from the provider's perspective.

The point was, static IP shouldn't be a deal breaker if you need business-class bandwidth.

I do pay for my bandwidth, as almost every month I have overages above 250gb:

My ISP seems ok with this, as I said each month I call and verify the billing and usage. I also try hard to not slam stuff down at peak times and all that.

Heck back in February I had a random 1TB month but I called them halfway through and warned them and they didn't even charge me overages that month. I think most companies are willing to work with me, as they know freakjobs like me exist out there and they build me into the business model.

So for me the only reason for pay even more for business class is to get the dedicated IP.

In my experience when an ISP can't take my load they tell me, like Clearwire did when they called me and said I was affected my entire city. I took the hint and stopped using Clearwire (it was a backup internet anyway). I had another cable ISP outright ask me to go the competitor once as well. Which I did (I hated their service anyway as it had 2gb daily buckets before throttling).

I don't want to be a dick about it, as I said I would thank the old grannies if I could. Well let me rephrase that, as I have tried thanking some- I would thank the old grannies in my nearby community if they could understand why I am thanking them!

Do I miss the days of my uncapped connection? Sure. With 30 down I can clean out my cap in a day.

But I understand bandwidth is a limited resource, and I am in the top 1% for residential usage, so I should pay more for that usage.

 

[postmortemIA]

all cable ISPs (cartel?) are in this game now.

Some rumors says these are coming from the gov't as a way to reduce piracy

 

[Red Squirrel]

So glad my internet is not capped. I would have to actually try to limit my usage, which would suck.



That's me not trying to limit, nor trying to use a lot, just regular usage. Old graph... I had to clear all that data when I upgraded pfsense.

 

[Aikouka]

I don't want to be a dick about it, as I said I would thank the old grannies if I could. Well let me rephrase that, as I have tried thanking some- I would thank the old grannies in my nearby community if they could understand why I am thanking them!

But I understand bandwidth is a limited resource, and I am in the top 1% for residential usage, so I should pay more for that usage.

+

all cable ISPs (cartel?) are in this game now.

Some rumors says these are coming from the gov't as a way to reduce piracy

I still think the issue isn't so much with the heavy users. I think the issue is that the people who essentially helped average out the heavy users are now starting to use more and more because of sites like Netflix and YouTube. Netflix now offers Super HD and 3D content to everyone (not just people with the cache at their ISP) and they've had HD content for a while now. YouTube videos used to be these rather low-quality 480p garbage, but I've noticed over the past two to three years that we've been seeing a lot more HD and Full-HD content. To give you an idea, I posted that article earlier detailing how Netflix and Google (i.e. YouTube) make up 50% of our Internet's bandwidth.

In short, people on average are using more bandwidth than they used to, which is hurting peering agreements.

 

[Kadarin]

IMO Comcast business class internet = win. Guaranteed speeds, no data cap, very high uptime. I just wish I had it where I live, but I'm stuck in shitty U-Verse hell right now.

 

[Aikouka]

IMO Comcast business class internet = win. Guaranteed speeds, no data cap, very high uptime. I just wish I had it where I live, but I'm stuck in shitty U-Verse hell right now.

You also get a separate support line, right?