Comcast no longer throttling torrents

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spidey07

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Very interesting. Tons of upgrades, moving to 100 megabit services, listening to it's customers needs and no longer throttling torrents. Sounds like a great company to me. Although it will be interesting to see how they handle traffic management.

*UPDATE*
FCC wants to know when. Good second article. FCC believes that reasonable traffic management is necessary, but how and how much? The FCC has ALWAYS supported competition and free market principles. Will hold public hearing April 17 to discuss.

http://www.lightreading.com/do...doc_id=149383&site=cdn

"Although the details have yet to be hammered out, Comcast has already agreed to migrate to a "protocol agnostic" capacity management system by the end of 2008. Among components of that system, Comcast reportedly will ensure that P2P connections are not reset."

"As a result of recent discussions with BitTorrent and other parties, Comcast "will have to rapidly reconfigure [its] network management systems, but the outcome will be a traffic management technique that is more appropriate for today's emerging Internet trends," said the MSO's CTO Tony Werner in prepared statement."

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"The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman has asked Comcast Corp. (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK) to commit to when it will halt its current P2P management practices in the wake of an agreement announced between the MSO and BitTorrent Inc. earlier today."

""Today's announcement confirms my belief that the FCC needs to play a proactive role in preserving the Internet as a vibrant place for democratic values, innovation, and economic growth," he said. Without the FCC's attention on this issue, "we would not be having the conversation that we are having now? about the best way to implement reasonable network management," Copps added."

http://www.lightreading.com/do...doc_id=149417&site=cdn
 
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Xavier434

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"More appropriate" is a very loose term. I will continue to have hope since I have no other broadband option atm, but I will only believe it once I experience it.
 
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spidey07

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
"More appropriate" is a very loose term. I will continue to have hope since I have no other broadband option atm, but I will only believe it once I experience it.
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Well from the article there was collaboration between comcast and bitorrent to come up with a reasonable solution that still would meet the needs of P2P protocols. But for now it looks like the TCP reset approach is being abandoned.
 
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Xavier434

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Xavier434
"More appropriate" is a very loose term. I will continue to have hope since I have no other broadband option atm, but I will only believe it once I experience it.
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Well from the article there was collaboration between comcast and bitorrent to come up with a reasonable solution that still would meet the needs of P2P protocols. But for now it looks like the TCP reset approach is being abandoned.
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It most definitely sounds like a step in the right direction. The fact that they are disrupting P2P traffic at all is way out of line IMO. However, that doesn't mean that I do not believe that they did it at least partially because of available bandwidth to distribute to their customers and that is the next thing scares me because if they were having problems before then they will most likely experience worse problems after they stop screwing with P2P.

From the article:

Comcast also expects to more than double its upstream bandwidth "in several key markets" by the end of the year, according John Schanz, the MSO's EVP of national engineering and technical operations.
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"Expect" is another loose term. I am very concerned about downstream too though. The bottom line is that I will not be happy with Comcast until they completely stop disrupting all P2P traffic (and any other traffic without malicious intent for that matter), increase their upstream by a lot, and increase their downstream by a lot. If they can do this before Verizon spreads their FIOS in my area then maybe they have a small chance of keeping me, but even then I doubt it. Their clock is ticking.
 
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her209

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There was another ISP that would, instead of blocking P2P traffic, would help favor P2P traffic between local nodes to reduce traffic to the Internet.
 
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Originally posted by: spidey07
...Tons of upgrades, moving to 100 megabit services, listening to it's customers needs and no longer throttling torrents. Sounds like a great company to me....
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Comcast will be one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. They are evil incarnate. Peel away the layers of accommodation and you will find the festering soul of an unforgiving behemoth.
 
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randay

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wrong, you will still be throttled based on your bandwidth usage. comcast still sucks.
 
Muadib

Muadib

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
I don't care.

When FIOS is available, I'm gone.
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You and me both. I don't have much longer to wait though. Verizon is busy running fiber in my town.

 
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spidey07

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Originally posted by: randay
wrong, you will still be throttled based on your bandwidth usage. comcast still sucks.
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So don't abuse the service. It really is that simple.

Comcast is on the front end of providing top notch residential internet services, beating FIOS in terms of speed and you guys still love to thrash them.

Can you not see what they are doing with all the upgrades? Actually working with P2P for a reasonable solution to the viral P2P protocol?
 
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spidey07

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
spidey don't you work for Comcast?
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No, but I've consulted them on design and traffic management. But it's been a while. I just try to present the other side of the story that others don't see or have to deal with.
 
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Muadib

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: randay
wrong, you will still be throttled based on your bandwidth usage. comcast still sucks.
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So don't abuse the service. It really is that simple.

Comcast is on the front end of providing top notch residential internet services, beating FIOS in terms of speed and you guys still love to thrash them.

Can you not see what they are doing with all the upgrades? Actually working with P2P for a reasonable solution to the viral P2P protocol?
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I'd like to know where in the USA is Comcast beating FIOS? In my state, the best Comcast offers is 1MB up, and 8MB down, of which I average about 500k up and 5MB down. And as of today, they are still throttling the crap out of it. The best FIOS offers the last I checked, is 10MB up & 50MB down. I think that might of changed though, because I just heard an ad of Verizon's offering 20MB up & 20MB down. And with Verizon, you get to use what you pay for.

Your comment about service abuse is a joke. How the heck is using the bandwidth I signed up for an abuse? They damn sure didn't inform me that they were going to restrict my usage. Why is that? I think they thought they could do it, and nobody would notice. Well, you know what, they were wrong, and they did Verizon a huge favor.

And sure, Comcast said 100 mbps speeds were coming, but they had to say something, because Verizon said gbps speeds were on the way. Comcast a great company? Yeah, right.:disgust:

 
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