Comcast no longer throttling torrents

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: vshah
SEED BABY SEED!!!

I can't seed with comcast...

 

[Instagib]

Originally posted by: Anubis
100mbit where? i cant even get 10mbit where i live

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: Squisher

Originally posted by: spidey07
...Tons of upgrades, moving to 100 megabit services, listening to it's customers needs and no longer throttling torrents. Sounds like a great company to me....

Comcast will be one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. They are evil incarnate. Peel away the layers of accommodation and you will find the festering soul of an unforgiving behemoth.

Indeed, Crapcast sucks.

 

[Phokus]

Comcast has long been known to lie. Take with a grain of salt.

 

[Braznor]

Give them a break. At least they bother trying to make you feel like kings, even while not delivering the experience in real life.

Atleast they tried!

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: randay
wrong, you will still be throttled based on your bandwidth usage. comcast still sucks.

So don't abuse the service. It really is that simple.

Comcast is on the front end of providing top notch residential internet services, beating FIOS in terms of speed and you guys still love to thrash them.

Can you not see what they are doing with all the upgrades? Actually working with P2P for a reasonable solution to the viral P2P protocol?

That's all nice on paper, but the bottom line is that until we see some actual results which convince us that their service is as good as they claim it to be (or hell, even as good as they used to be) we will not be satisfied. Those with FIOS are getting higher speeds on average during peak hours without question. Comcast is no longer providing top notch residential services especially in areas with high population densities. They advertise up to 8mb down for the package I pay for, but the truth is they could be telling me they are providing up to 800mb down and it wouldn't make a difference because I never even see 4mb down most of the time. On top of all that, their CS is absolutely pitiful. No matter how you slice it, no one can argue that Comcast has slowly but surely reduced their service quality and the reason is because they have not had a large enough competitor that gives them a reason to provide better quality for a while now.

Here is a theory for you. Maybe Comcast is seeing a trend in areas where FIOS has spread its wings. Maybe they have seen a large % of their customers in those areas switch on them. Maybe they realize that it is only a matter of time before FIOS spreads its wings everywhere. Maybe that is part of the motivation behind these "upgrades" and working with Bit Torrent. They see the competition coming and they are finally making moves to try and remain king. We'll see how that pans out for them.

Also, I have an idea. In the mean time, how about we change how we get billed? I say that if their policy states they will provide "Up to XXX amount" then I should only have to pay "Up to XXX amount" per month based on what they were able to provide me.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Those with FIOS are getting higher speeds on average during peak hours without question.

proof?

Comcast is no longer providing top notch residential services especially in areas with high population densities.

high population densities are the first to get upgrades in the telecom business.

y advertise up to 8mb down for the package I pay for, but the truth is they could be telling me they are providing up to 800mb down and it wouldn't make a difference because I never even see 4mb down most of the time.

are you connecting to a file server that can upload to you at over 1 MB? even from microsoft, single dl's rarely exceed 1 MB/s.

no matter how you slice it, no one can argue that Comcast has slowly but surely reduced their service quality

how so?

maybe that is part of the motivation behind these "upgrades" and working with Bit Torrent.

no. bittorrent users, disgruntled or otherwise, are the minority of any ISP's customers.

I say that if their policy states they will provide "Up to XXX amount" then I should only have to pay "Up to XXX amount" per month based on what they were able to provide me.

how would you go about testing for capacity without using it all? shit, i would double your bill just for the billing nightmare. if you want to pay per packet, you're not going to like the results. not at first, anyway.

 

[Aharami]

Comcast is the WORST company I've ever dealt with. As soon as FIOS arrives, Im getting the fuck out

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Also, I have an idea. In the mean time, how about we change how we get billed? I say that if their policy states they will provide "Up to XXX amount" then I should only have to pay "Up to XXX amount" per month based on what they were able to provide me.

I like this idea!

 

[Rubycon]

How ironic!

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Those with FIOS are getting higher speeds on average during peak hours without question.

proof?

No need to lie. I don't have any kind of accurate testing material to present to you. However, I do know several people in person with the service and they get much better connection speeds than I do. Then there is most of the opinions you hear on the net. While that certainly does equate to proof or any form of absolute, the odds are most certainly in FIOS's favor.

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
high population densities are the first to get upgrades in the telecom business.

Again, great on paper, but I want to see results.

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

y advertise up to 8mb down for the package I pay for, but the truth is they could be telling me they are providing up to 800mb down and it wouldn't make a difference because I never even see 4mb down most of the time.

are you connecting to a file server that can upload to you at over 1 MB? even from microsoft, single dl's rarely exceed 1 MB/s.

I have been with Comcast for a very long time. Since 2002 if IIRC. I used to get over 1 MB downloads from several file servers quite often with my 8mbit down service. Now, it is a miracle if I see 250KB/s down.

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

no matter how you slice it, no one can argue that Comcast has slowly but surely reduced their service quality

how so?

I provided a general example in my previous comment, but what I have personally noticed is worse CS and my average speed throughout the month is much worse during all hours with exception of about a 2am - 6am window. Even then, I don't get the 8mbit down maximum from sites which I used to get those speeds even during peak hours. Outages are more frequent as well. These problems appear to be quite common based on the feedback I have both read and have heard about from friends/co-workers/family.

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

maybe that is part of the motivation behind these "upgrades" and working with Bit Torrent.

no. bittorrent users, disgruntled or otherwise, are the minority of any ISP's customers.

It's just a theory which if true is only a small sliver of the pie. Only time will tell.

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

I say that if their policy states they will provide "Up to XXX amount" then I should only have to pay "Up to XXX amount" per month based on what they were able to provide me.

how would you go about testing for capacity without using it all? shit, i would double your bill just for the billing nightmare. if you want to pay per packet, you're not going to like the results. not at first, anyway.

That was more about proving a point rather than being what I would consider a realistic solution. The idea is that if the general concept seems absurd when it comes to business practice then the flip side (what we currently deal with) on the opposite end of the spectrum should be considered close to being equally absurd. They hide behind their policy about how they provide "Up to XXX" speeds. That means they can legally get away with any speed they want. The only thing to make them actually care how close they regularly provide that maximum to all customers is better competition.




Arguing for or against Comcast really does nothing more than allow people to vent. No matter what anyone says, more competition will bring better quality. The lack there of is why Comcast went down in quality slowly over several years. Reestablishing the competition is the only way to bring that quality back. Even if you believe their service is just fine, I will put some serious money on the table supporting that it will be even better the day they notice their bank accounts getting noticeably smaller because too many of their customers are jumping ship for a different ISP.

 

[hanoverphist]

im kind of glad comcast isnt in my area i think... cox communications is who im stuck with currently, and as much as i hate them as a company, i do average about 10.5mb down. so far its been during peak and late at night. they advertise up to 12mb down, so thats not too shabbay

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

To bad the extra bandwidth is for the RIAA and MPAA to use to monitor everyone on the network.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Rubycon
How ironic!

Don't laugh. It's coming.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Rubycon
How ironic!

Don't laugh. It's coming.

It probably will but don't hold your breath.

By the time they really make it work to the point where it takes so much effort to work around the security that pirates will stop pirating, most people will probably be buying their legit copies in the form of digital downloads which requires the solution to be further complicated. They need to be able to accurately distinguish legal downloads vs illegal downloads first and they need to make it happen in a way which does not allow the illegal copies to appear like the legal ones easily (good luck with that department). They also need to do it in a way that doesn't negatively effect the legit user. After that, you gotta toss privacy issues into the whole mix.

It's all a huge cluster fuck that is going to take forever considering how our legal system works.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Xavier434, i would schedule a trouble call (ages ago) if i were you. if you're only seeing 250 kbps, that's a problem and not typical.

could be:
bad router
bad modem
bad/wrong .ini on the modem
bad/wrong profile on the cmts
shitty coax from the modem to the cable plant
cable plant issue
too much porn
more..

this ip might get you to the diagnostics on your modem. if it does, post the results.

192.168.100.1

 

[spidey07]

*UPDATE*

The FCC wants to know when. They are also having a hearing on what is "reasonable network management". This could be HUGE.

"In a way, both Copps and McDowell will get their wish soon enough. The FCC is set to host a second Public En Banc hearing on the subject of "reasonable network management practices " on April 17, this time at Stanford University. The first was held in late February at Harvard Law School in Cambridge, Mass. (See FCC Mulling New Internet Rules .)"

 

[frostedflakes]

Are they going to pay people off again to fill up seats?

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Are they going to pay people off again to fill up seats?

it's probably cheaper to set up a soup line for the homeless in front of the hall.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Are they going to pay people off again to fill up seats?

it's probably cheaper to set up a soup line for the homeless in front of the hall.

Well you west coasters may want to attend if it's important to you. I know I would.

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Comcast has long been known to lie. Take with a grain of salt.

Other than a few sentences in their annual rate increase letters, when has Comcast been known to tell the truth about anything?

I still think that Comcast will throttle and restrict this new 100 MB bandwidth service for residential users to the point where only pay per view HD movies and porn will actually see a performance boost, but I'd love to be wrong!