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Comcast internet speed upgrades rolling out?

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SunSamurai said:
Higher throughput and ping times are mutually exclusive. This change will have nearly zero impact on the end user unless you are downloading huge files witch constitutionally means you are going to meet Comcasts commy throughput throttling quicker. Nothing you say is going to change that, all the while they are doing bullshit things in the background to erode the access of the internet in general . T.o.o.l.
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Higher bandwdth means less serialization delay meaning less latency. Do you even grasp that?
 
spidey07 said:
Higher bandwdth means less serialization delay meaning less latency. Do you even grasp that?
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Do you not grasp that is not even close to anything to an end user but marketing fluff? The companies image is being tossed into teh shitter becuse people are feeling the effects of their commy policies. This is a horrible attempt to improve their PR. They arnt doing anything to ACTUALLY improve anything. Its just pouring more water into an already watered down beer. OMGAW THERE IS MOAR!

You still have a lil sumn on your chin there. :hmm:
 
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James3shin said:


I wanted to see how Comcast compared to Verizon [FIOS]. Meh, the internet doesn't feel any faster. Are we paying for nothing?
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You should try using different DNS servers. My ping was the same as yours before I changed, and now it's this:

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SunSamurai said:
If you want normal browsing to "feel faster" they would need to reduce ping a good deal. That 8MS you see there does not even come close to representing normal ping in casual browsing. It would be around 10x-20x more at least.

Nice upload speeds
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WTF?

SunSamurai said:
Higher throughput and ping times are mutually exclusive. This change will have nearly zero impact on the end user unless you are downloading huge files witch constitutionally means you are going to meet Comcasts commy throughput throttling quicker. Nothing you say is going to change that, all the while they are doing bullshit things in the background to erode the access of the internet in general.

All this does is pacify the ignorant. Its the Ghz wars in netspeed form.
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Maybe sit the next few plays out and start posting when you have a clue.
 
mchammer187 said:
just got fios today

a huge upgrade over Cox

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Oh nice, I didn't realize speed test had a server in VA.


I wonder why my ping is higher than everyone elses on fios. I noticed it went up playing TF2 as well once I went from 15/2 to 25/15. Doesn't make any sense really.
 
mb said:
Oh nice, I didn't realize speed test had a server in VA.


I wonder why my ping is higher than everyone elses on fios. I noticed it went up playing TF2 as well once I went from 15/2 to 25/15. Doesn't make any sense really.
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You are further away from the server. Close:

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Far:
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SunSamurai said:
Explain how Im wrong or youre just trolling.
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If you want normal browsing to "feel faster" they would need to reduce ping a good deal. That 8MS you see there does not even come close to representing normal ping in casual browsing. It would be around 10x-20x more at least.
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I'm not sure exactly what you were trying to get at with the above statement, but it shows that you have absolutely no grip on networking or how traffic travels through the internet. Pings (ICMP traffic) are always going to be sent "best effort", meaning that they receive no special service, and get there "as fast as they can".

You say, "they would need to reduce ping a good deal". I have literally no clue that means. You act like ping is a switch that they can just flip, or an option in Windows that can be altered. Ping is the time it takes to get from point A to point B and back - that's it.

Then you say "That 8MS you see does not even come close to representing normal ping in casual browsing". ... Ok... Wait, what? Sure, you could ping the web server you are accessing, and that will give you an idea of the latency between you and the site, but what you said just makes no sense.

Sorry if I came off harsh, but if you don't know what you're talking about, then read up on it - don't try to act like you know what's up. Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying?

Higher throughput and ping times are mutually exclusive.
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Also, the comment above. They are not mutually exclusive in any way AT ALL.

Imagine you have a water pipe leading to your house. Suppose it takes exactly 5 seconds for water to come from a water facility to your house. The pipe is big enough that you can receive one gallon of water per minute. In this case: Ping time = 5seconds, max throughput = 1gallon/min.

Then, surprise, the water company just gave you a bigger pipe for free! Now the pipe is big enough that you can receive 2gallons per minute! Unfortunately, it still takes 5 seconds to get from the facility to your house. In this case: Ping time = 5seconds, max throughput = 2gallon/min.

Now. The change that they made. Did it affect your ping time? Under normal circumstances, no. Let's get a bit more complicated, though:
BEFORE the change, you could take a shower and it was no big deal - BUT if someone flushed the toilet, your shower would lose pressure. This is because the pipe wasn't big enough for the burst of water necessary. Some of the water that should have been in the shower was delayed, but eventually it caught back up. Before the flush, ping time = 5sec. During the flush, ping time = >5 sec (something longer, for the shower at least, in this case).

AFTER the change, you can take a shower AND flush at the same time. You have enough bandwidth to handle both. Because you are never using the whole pipe, your ping time is always 5 seconds.

Now obviously these analogies aren't spot on, and it's probably apparent that I have no idea how water gets to and from my house, but there you go.
 
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You dont suppose that I was making the point that 100MBps connection isnt going to make a huge difference in casual browsing if the ping is the same? Your average frontpage is around 300KB with dozens of things to load and typically takes the rate that I stated to happen. 10-20x more than that 8ms.

I was not wrong in saying reducing that number would have the biggest effect, regardless of what you assume about how easy or hard I think that would be.
 
Muadib said:
You are further away from the server. Close:

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Far:
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I realize I don't have a base line to go on for the speed test but I play on the same TF2 server all the time. My ping used to be less than 10ms now it is 75-80ms.

Doesn't seem to cause any problems but I still don't like it.
 
SunSamurai said:
You dont suppose that I was making the point that 100MBps connection isnt going to make a huge difference in casual browsing if the ping is the same? Your average frontpage is around 300KB with dozens of things to load and typically takes the rate that I stated to happen. 10-20x more than that 8ms.

I was not wrong in saying reducing that number would have the biggest effect, regardless of what you assume about how easy or hard I think that would be.
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You still don't get it. Bandwidth and latency are directly linked because of serialization delay.
 
I wish that some of these Comcast and FIOS users would try a more realistic bandwidth speed test, like attempt to download a 3GB Linux .ISO image from BitTorrent and see how long it takes to complete.

I don't really care if I can get a 30 second speed burst that lasts just long enough to get a good SpeedTest.net result... I want to know how it performs when I need to download a large file! It's that the POINT of having broadband?
 
ultimatebob said:
I wish that some of these Comcast and FIOS users would try a more realistic bandwidth speed test, like attempt to download a 3GB Linux .ISO image from BitTorrent and see how long it takes to complete.

I don't really care if I can get a 30 second speed burst that lasts just long enough to get a good SpeedTest.net result... I want to know how it performs when I need to download a large file! It's that the POINT of having broadband?
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I see your point, but are linux torrent seeders that reliable that everyone would be able to download from the same machines all the time at any given time?

And besides, if it matters my speedtest results are mostly what my real speeds are. I can download from Steam at 3.2MB/sec.
Ok, so 3.1MB right now:
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Sadly, youtube still sucks balls.
 
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