Comcast Cap coming?

[darkxshade]

Originally posted by: ric1287
As i said earlier...the cap is fine for now. But what happens when we can download entire 10+ gb games and movies, stream HD tv, etc.


edit* also, I'd be fine with a cap if they refunded the people who use <5gb's a month. Which they will never ever ever do.

Maybe when that time comes, they will notice and increase the cap accordingly. Like I've said, I don't mind it at all, especially if they double my bandwidth for example.

People who use <5gb can switch to dsl or free dial up.

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
250GB/30days = 8.3GB/day.

That's quite the streaming. You could do quite a with that much bandwidth, legally. Of course, high end photographers that upload tons of pics or videos a day, then they might get in trouble. But they might have a commercial pipe anyway.

I think that my only fear would be the slippery slope. It starts with 250, people are comfortable with it, then they drop it to 200, people adjust to it, then they drop it to 150, etc.

Isn't it 250GB total...in and out?

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: dartworth

Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
250GB/30days = 8.3GB/day.

That's quite the streaming. You could do quite a with that much bandwidth, legally. Of course, high end photographers that upload tons of pics or videos a day, then they might get in trouble. But they might have a commercial pipe anyway.

I think that my only fear would be the slippery slope. It starts with 250, people are comfortable with it, then they drop it to 200, people adjust to it, then they drop it to 150, etc.

Isn't it 250GB total...in and out?

Pretty sure, as they reference how much it would take to hit that in an upload manner :

Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo)

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: MustISO
I'm okay with 250GB/Mo. Do they have rollover minutes?

The "article" implies that the reason the cap is so high is so normal users who have a big month don't get hit. "Rollover minutes" serve the same purpose, and thus would be superfluous. Setting the cap high and not rolling anything over is likely easier for Comcast.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: LuckyTaxi
not sure if i would ever hit 250gb

Not now, no. But what does this do to future media? Do companies like netflix and MS just say "screw it" since nobody will be able to use their service without paying $10000 a month to the ass-rapers over at comcast?

Do you think that the ISP's have the capability to supply everyone with unlimited bandwidth? Or, just maybe they're realizing that there's a huge potential for their network to suddenly suck donkey balls once more and more people have HD televisions and decide to stream their movies rather than purchase them or go to the store to rent them. The unfortunately reality is that there is the potential for bandwidth demands to outpace ISP's ability to expand. You don't like that? Then start your own ISP and offer unlimited bandwidth. What's stopping you?

 

[Caecus Veritas]

i tend to think they'd decrease the cap as time goes.... first, start of with a huge amount everyone can "reasonably" accept. and as time passes, they'll slowly, bit by bit, introduce little hoops here and there....

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: dartworth

Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
250GB/30days = 8.3GB/day.

That's quite the streaming. You could do quite a with that much bandwidth, legally. Of course, high end photographers that upload tons of pics or videos a day, then they might get in trouble. But they might have a commercial pipe anyway.

I think that my only fear would be the slippery slope. It starts with 250, people are comfortable with it, then they drop it to 200, people adjust to it, then they drop it to 150, etc.

Isn't it 250GB total...in and out?

Pretty sure, as they reference how much it would take to hit that in an upload manner :

Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo)

Most people are doing 90+% downloads anyway, which is why it's an asymmetric tube.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas
i tend to think they'd decrease the cap as time goes.... first, start of with a huge amount everyone can "reasonably" accept. and as time passes, they'll slowly, bit by bit, introduce little hoops here and there....

No, this goes specifically after abusers. The top 10%. That's where this number came from. They won't lower it by anymeans - as they continue to upgrade and expand their network the top 10% will be using more and that means the number will actually INCREASE.

This isn't some evil corporation, they, like all other residential ISPs, are trying to keep abusers from sucking their network dry and their profit along with it.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas
i tend to think they'd decrease the cap as time goes.... first, start of with a huge amount everyone can "reasonably" accept. and as time passes, they'll slowly, bit by bit, introduce little hoops here and there....

No, this goes specifically after abusers. The top 10%. That's where this number came from. They won't lower it by anymeans - as they continue to upgrade and expand their network the top 10% will be using more and that means the number will actually INCREASE.

This isn't some evil corporation, they, like all other residential ISPs, are trying to keep abusers from sucking their network dry and their profit along with it.

but the taxpayers already paid for our network.




*poke*

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas
i tend to think they'd decrease the cap as time goes.... first, start of with a huge amount everyone can "reasonably" accept. and as time passes, they'll slowly, bit by bit, introduce little hoops here and there....

How about we stick to complaining about what DOES happen rather than what we assume will happen.

 

[AmpedSilence]

Originally posted by: spidey07

This isn't some evil corporation, they, like all other residential ISPs, are trying to keep abusers from sucking their network dry and their profit along with it.

We are talking about the same Comcast right?

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas
i tend to think they'd decrease the cap as time goes.... first, start of with a huge amount everyone can "reasonably" accept. and as time passes, they'll slowly, bit by bit, introduce little hoops here and there....

No, this goes specifically after abusers. The top 10%. That's where this number came from. They won't lower it by anymeans - as they continue to upgrade and expand their network the top 10% will be using more and that means the number will actually INCREASE.

This isn't some evil corporation, they, like all other residential ISPs, are trying to keep abusers from sucking their network dry and their profit along with it.

IF that is the case, I wish AT&T would get their shit together..that hop is always trash.

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas
i tend to think they'd decrease the cap as time goes.... first, start of with a huge amount everyone can "reasonably" accept. and as time passes, they'll slowly, bit by bit, introduce little hoops here and there....

exactly what I am thinking.

 

[Viper GTS]

250 GB seems quite sane. 30-40 could be painful as I will occasionally go on an MSDN spree & grab 5+ GB in a shot. Of course I also grab a few TV shows & the normal surfing, but 250 is at least 10x what I could see myself reasonably using in a month.

Those who use over 250 should be thankful that they're just being charged rather than having their service shut off. It would take an awful lot of extra bandwidth fees to equal what you'd be paying for a dedicated line.

Viper GTS

 

[AstroManLuca]

I actually welcome this. Not because I think download caps are a good thing (they aren't), but because I see caps as inevitable and it's better that they offer a huge one than let another big ISP set the bar a whole lot lower. I would have expected most ISPs to institute a cap of 30-60 GB/mo, and if everyone else does that, Comcast would have little reason to offer a cap as high as 250 GB.

It sets an important precedent - that caps should be reasonable. I don't like the overage charge though. $15 per 10 GB over is pretty crazy given how cheap the first 250 GB is. I wonder if they'll offer an unlimited plan?

 

[SparkyJJO]

250GB a month is better than what Time warner was suggesting at least, 40GB for the fastest connection, if you have their midgrade you'd be limited to 20GB. Yuck.

 

[Beev]

As much as I hate Comcrap, 250gb is very generous.

 

[Canai]

I'd have no trouble hitting that 250.

I :heart: streaming HD.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

Or streaming legal movies, or has many people using the internet, or plenty of other legal things. :roll:

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

250gb is easy to hit if you're newsgrouping 24/7. Honestly, I don't even find that there's so many things I would download. I know my friend did fill up his 750gb drive within a month of signing up for newsgroups.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: ric1287
As i said earlier...the cap is fine for now. But what happens when we can download entire 10+ gb games and movies, stream HD tv, etc.

Who says they'll never adjust the cap?

edit* also, I'd be fine with a cap if they refunded the people who use <5gb's a month. Which they will never ever ever do.

Why do you care what other customers are paying?

Other customers? What about if I don't use my $42 internet much for a month and go way under the cap? Do i get any money back? Nope. And what will they do with the extra money they get from not having to put up with abusers? Upgrade the infrastructure? haha, my ass.

And like someone else said, what happens in 6 months when they decrease it to 150gb since "nobody cared anyway". Then 100gb, then 50gb, then "pay as you go".

It just goes completely against progress towards this whole "digital media" wave that was supposed to be taking over.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

Or streaming legal movies, or has many people using the internet, or plenty of other legal things. :roll:

PIRATE!!!!! PIRATE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ChaoZ]

Does that include upload?

 

[EMPshockwave82]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
250gb is reasonable, but it's the principle of the thing...a cap?

That does not seem like a good way to do it....maybe cap the top 10% ???

Lame

Chances are...... that's what they've done. You do realize how much data 250gb is right? Seriously? I can't honestly believe you are complaining about this.

250,000/700 = 357 CD's
250/4.7 = 53 DVD's

Stop pirating so much and you'll realize that this is a huge amount of data and that you are out of your mind.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

The very day they do this I will call Verizon and switch to DSL. I don't how "reasonable" they make the cap, it is simply just setting an exmaple and pushing technology backwards. I'd also call up DirectTV and switch to a dish. I know I won't be the only one. This just reminds me of the Nextel method of easing network congestion. All you have to do is tank and get users pissed off enough to leave and you don't have to spend a dime to actually accommodate your subscribers.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
250gb is reasonable, but it's the principle of the thing...a cap?

That does not seem like a good way to do it....maybe cap the top 10% ???

Lame

Chances are...... that's what they've done. You do realize how much data 250gb is right? Seriously? I can't honestly believe you are complaining about this.

250,000/700 = 357 CD's
250/4.7 = 53 DVD's

Stop pirating so much and you'll realize that this is a huge amount of data and that you are out of your mind.

250gb is not enough for me, according to giganews transfer stats :evil: