Comcast Cap coming?

[nismotigerwvu]

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

Logically, that makes as much sense as saying that anyone who buys a case of beer is an alcoholic.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

Logically, that makes as much sense as saying that anyone who buys a case of beer is an alcoholic.

I can stop anytime I want to.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

Logically, that makes as much sense as saying that anyone who buys a case of beer is an alcoholic.

LOL!

This is more like a single person buying and drinking 6 kegs a day. 250 GB is an obscene amount of data to be moving.

 

[EMPshockwave82]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

Logically, that makes as much sense as saying that anyone who buys a case of beer is an alcoholic.

Not quite but I see what you did there.
Fixing it for you......
Logically, that you make as much sense as saying that anyone who buys a keg to drink himself in a single night is an alcoholic.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Oh yes, I'm pirate, you caught me. It couldn't have anything to do with my schooling (videos of lectures here and from other universities that I'm responsible for, large data sets, high resolution images...ect ect getting a Ph.D in Biochemistry isn;t one of the easier things to do in life) on top of legal downloads (my spiffy zunepass, linux distros for my 2nd hand system refurbishing side business I run out of my bedroom, loads of skype video chats with family that I otherwise would only get to see once a year, media streaming to ppc (at evdo rev. A speeds on a vga screen) mostly live TV from my capture card, independent (i.e free to share) music (including live performances)). To assume that one must be doing something illegal to use this kind of bandwidth is pretty short sighted. Somehow I get a feeling this post will go ignored.

 

[Shlong]

250 GB/month seems generous but I have a roommate (he DL's a ton of torrents), I would estimate that I use about 20GB / month and he uses a good 1xx - 2xx GB / month. Maybe it's time to get DSL for him and split up the bills.

 

[Born2bwire]

Seems reasonable to me. That is a sufficiently high cap.

 

[Baked]

What software do you use to monitor your bandwidth? I know a router records that, but I wanna use a software for more options.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

Logically, that makes as much sense as saying that anyone who buys a case of beer is an alcoholic.

LOL!

This is more like a single person buying and drinking 6 kegs a day. 250 GB is an obscene amount of data to be moving.

Seriously....

And since when does logic have anything to do with this board?

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

Uh, with streaming HD media, you'd hit 250GB/month in about 5 days.

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
The very day they do this I will call Verizon and switch to DSL. I don't how "reasonable" they make the cap, it is simply just setting an exmaple and pushing technology backwards. I'd also call up DirectTV and switch to a dish. I know I won't be the only one. This just reminds me of the Nextel method of easing network congestion. All you have to do is tank and get users pissed off enough to leave and you don't have to spend a dime to actually accommodate your subscribers.

Too bad 99.9% of Comcast customers won't care or possibly even know. The ones who leave will probably be the ones that use lots of bandwidth anyway (aka, customers an ISP doesn't want).

I don't think this magic internet revolution can occur for a while when the tech savvy population increases and more bandwidth heavy services roll out.

 

[Noirish]

you need to have a constant stream of about 100k to hit that target.

 

[PingSpike]

250GB isn't unreasonable. I still reject the notion that comcast isn't an evil company though. They most certainly are!

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Beev
As much as I hate Comcrap, 250gb is very generous.

Yes, I agree. I'm still leaving them though if Verizon ever decides to fiber my street.

 

[Vic]

250GB/month is more than enough for now but it won't be nearly enough for 24/7 HD streaming when that time comes.

 

[spidey07]

Only targeting the top 1% of users - the abusers.

http://www.lightreading.com/do...doc_id=162587&site=cdn

" Comcast said the threshold will apply to less than 1 percent of its high-speed Internet subscribers, noting that the median residential usage is 2 to 3 Gbytes per month."

And as said all along, if you really need that kind of capacity then pay for it.

" Comcast also says its policy hasn't really changed: Customers who exceed the cap are asked to moderate their usage or upgrade to a commercial services account, which runs about $1,500 per month. Those who don't upgrade, but exceed the threshold again within a six-month period, will have their service terminated for a year."

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Only targeting the top 1% of users - the abusers.

http://www.lightreading.com/do...doc_id=162587&site=cdn

" Comcast said the threshold will apply to less than 1 percent of its high-speed Internet subscribers, noting that the median residential usage is 2 to 3 Gbytes per month."

And as said all along, if you really need that kind of capacity then pay for it.

" Comcast also says its policy hasn't really changed: Customers who exceed the cap are asked to moderate their usage or upgrade to a commercial services account, which runs about $1,500 per month. Those who don't upgrade, but exceed the threshold again within a six-month period, will have their service terminated for a year."

I still fail to see how using bandwidth that I paid for is abusing it.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Canai
I still fail to see how using bandwidth that I paid for is abusing it.

I don't know how to make it any more simple. You are NOT paying for that kind of bandwidth at normal market rates. You are paying for a residential connection. If you want to slam your connection 24x7 then pay for it - business class service.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

I would agree, of course that would -1 on daily tech because everybody on daily tech thinks the world owes them something for being born.

Even with ITunes or other media (porn). I can only download maybe 20 gigs a porn and music a month before getting guys with white jackets after me or me being hospitalized for dehydration.

As for online gaming, 20 gigs tops? Wouldn't know how playing 3hrs of COD4 a day would amount to much even with downloading custom maps or mods.

The only time I can see 250GIGs coming a problem is if people would want to stream HD content.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: OdiN
Anyone using over 250GB/month is pirating stuff illegally.

you're a liar

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: spidey07
Only targeting the top 1% of users - the abusers.

http://www.lightreading.com/do...doc_id=162587&site=cdn

" Comcast said the threshold will apply to less than 1 percent of its high-speed Internet subscribers, noting that the median residential usage is 2 to 3 Gbytes per month."

And as said all along, if you really need that kind of capacity then pay for it.

" Comcast also says its policy hasn't really changed: Customers who exceed the cap are asked to moderate their usage or upgrade to a commercial services account, which runs about $1,500 per month. Those who don't upgrade, but exceed the threshold again within a six-month period, will have their service terminated for a year."

I still fail to see how using bandwidth that I paid for is abusing it.

I thought Comcast stopped advertising their broadband as unlimited?

 

[Scarpozzi]

I use my Comcast connection for VOIP. I doubt I would ever hit the 250GB limit, but I'd much rather have them shut my connection down than hit me with extra charges. It's the principle of them having the discretion to stick it to anyone they want to. I don't have the desire to log how much bandwidth I actually use.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Canai
I still fail to see how using bandwidth that I paid for is abusing it.

I don't know how to make it any more simple. You are NOT paying for that kind of bandwidth at normal market rates. You are paying for a residential connection. If you want to slam your connection 24x7 then pay for it - business class service.

Still though, just because I use my residential connection to its fullest hardly qualifies as abuse. I think the broadband networks are just suddenly realizing that they can force people to pay more instead of upgrading their infrastructure to handle higher usage. Internet contracts are sold by max connection speed, not max transfer / month.

Now, if I were to mess with my modem / the network to increase my bandwidth, that would be abuse.

Honestly, I think this is a butt hurt Comcast trying to stop P2P networks in another quasi-legal way.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Canai
I still fail to see how using bandwidth that I paid for is abusing it.

I don't know how to make it any more simple. You are NOT paying for that kind of bandwidth at normal market rates. You are paying for a residential connection. If you want to slam your connection 24x7 then pay for it - business class service.

I'm calling your bluff. I just got off the phone with a Comcast rep (which oddly enough was a girl I met casually before from the university of Pittsburgh) and you can only have a business account at an address that is zoned accordingly. She wasn't sure if this was going to change when the user agreement changed but the entry level tier starts at almost $60 a month. I say hello verizon. I also called you in that my post full of valid points would go ignored. You lost what little credibility you once had. Have fun trolling away, you're migrating (with oden) to my ignore list.

edit: Wow, I never realized how much nicer I can make the forum for myself with the ignore list. It is almost as if the troll all just go *poof*.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Canai
I still fail to see how using bandwidth that I paid for is abusing it.

I don't know how to make it any more simple. You are NOT paying for that kind of bandwidth at normal market rates. You are paying for a residential connection. If you want to slam your connection 24x7 then pay for it - business class service.

Still though, just because I use my residential connection to its fullest hardly qualifies as abuse. I think the broadband networks are just suddenly realizing that they can force people to pay more instead of upgrading their infrastructure to handle higher usage. Internet contracts are sold by max connection speed, not max transfer / month.

Now, if I were to mess with my modem / the network to increase my bandwidth, that would be abuse.

Honestly, I think this is a butt hurt Comcast trying to stop P2P networks in another quasi-legal way.

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about.

Some contracts for data communication services are sold wholesale for actual speed and you can use as much as you want - these are VERY expensive. Some are sold as burstable services where you get a lower cost but pay for the amount that exceeds your 95th percentile usage but it still isn't cheap. Then you have residential connections where you are getting ludicrous speed at insanely cheap, you get what you pay for.

All in all the connection speeds you get with residential broadband would cost thousands of dollars per month if not 10s if you actually paid market rates.