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Comcast 250gb per Month Cap

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Originally posted by: Drako

LOL, and if you think Comcast internet is overpriced, you should try SBC/Yahoo DSL.

AT&T (which for me used to be SBC/Yahoo)= $35/month for 6Mbps download with no contract
Charter= $34.99/month for 10Mbps download for 6 months, $59.99/month thereafter

AT&T= $5.83/month/Mbps
Charter= $3.50/month/Mbps for 6 months, $6/month/Mbps thereafter

AT&T= free equipment
Charter= $5/month modem rental or $30-60 modem purchase from retail

I'm moving in two weeks and would like to get Charter, since I don't know how far from the AT&T DSL switching equipment I'll be, but dang Charter is expensive. Plus, since I plan on going with DirecTV (order NFL Sunday Ticket and get 4 months of the Premier programming, 4 months of DVR service, and an HD-DVR free), Charter actually charges $44.99 and $69.99 for a non-bundled customer.

What a ripoff!
 
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: DefDC
Anyone use generously uses Netflix or any other streaming site will be using quite a bit. Enjoy adult entertainment? That's a lot, too. I transfer podcasts from home to work, all the time.... I chat, with video, to family just about every night. Many times for hours at a time. It doesn't take that much to surpass 250GB, with any illegal downloading.

If all you do is email, and surf, a $15 DSL connection will work for you. You don't need the speed of cable.
Don't know what kind of bandwidth video chat uses, but Netflix movies are around 2GB each (they stream at 2.2Mbps, approx 1GB/hour). That means you'd have to watch 250 hours worth of video in a month, or about 125 movies assuming two hours per movie. Considering there are 720 hours in a month, that just isn't realistic. Do you know anybody who spends 35% of their day, every day, watching Netflix movies?

I mean, sure, there are ways to hit this cap, but none of it is very likely. I have no life, and there's no way I could (or would even want to) watch that many movies in a month. Even the FCC, who smacked down Comcast for BT throttling, promotes reasonable bandwidth caps as a means of protocol-agnostic network management. For the time being, I'm sure the FCC would agree that 250GB is *very* reasonable. In the future, if 250GB is no longer "reasonable," the FCC will probably encourage or force Comcast to raise it. However, 250GB should accommodate all but the heaviest users (according to Comcast, the top 0.1% of their customers currently exceed 250GB/mo) for many years to come.
:thumbsup:

I acutally find 250GB to be very generous.

 
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: DefDC
Anyone use generously uses Netflix or any other streaming site will be using quite a bit. Enjoy adult entertainment? That's a lot, too. I transfer podcasts from home to work, all the time.... I chat, with video, to family just about every night. Many times for hours at a time. It doesn't take that much to surpass 250GB, with any illegal downloading.

If all you do is email, and surf, a $15 DSL connection will work for you. You don't need the speed of cable.
Don't know what kind of bandwidth video chat uses, but Netflix movies are around 2GB each (they stream at 2.2Mbps, approx 1GB/hour). That means you'd have to watch 250 hours worth of video in a month, or about 125 movies assuming two hours per movie. Considering there are 720 hours in a month, that just isn't realistic. Do you know anybody who spends 35% of their day, every day, watching Netflix movies?

I mean, sure, there are ways to hit this cap, but none of it is very likely. I have no life, and there's no way I could (or would even want to) watch that many movies in a month. Even the FCC, who smacked down Comcast for BT throttling, promotes reasonable bandwidth caps as a means of protocol-agnostic network management. For the time being, I'm sure the FCC would agree that 250GB is *very* reasonable. In the future, if 250GB is no longer "reasonable," the FCC will probably encourage or force Comcast to raise it. However, 250GB should accommodate all but the heaviest users (according to Comcast, the top 0.1% of their customers currently exceed 250GB/mo) for many years to come.

throw in some linux distro iso's, all the flash crap, espn360, the crappy myspace pages, youtube, and streaming content.. I could hit 250 gigs easily be not torrenting or downloading illegal stuff.
 
i have cox cable with 4 computers on my network. all 3 kids stream and download music (legally) as well as play lots of different games. i do as well. i dont think i could hit 250g with 4 users. id still be pissed about the precedent, as it allows for future ass boning by the cable companies.
 
I could be completely off base, but when I first read about the 250GB monthly cap, to me, it seemed like they were really trying to get the average user to say, "Boy, that is sure generous of them." As in, they set the threshold so high that everyone would think it was "ok".

But six months from now, when they ratchet it down to 200GB/month, and six months after that, 150GB/month.....

Now that a maximum monthly limit has been set, I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar that it does not stay at 250GB/month.


 
Why cant they just do some sort of QOS thing when you hit a certain DL quota? Go over 250gig and get kicked down to 1megabit or 512k...
 
Remember that the cap has always been there, just not explicitly stated.

If you're a current user and they have never bothered you about your usage, I don't see how anything is going to change as a result of the cap. Does anyone know if the 250GB cap is somehow lower than what they used to flag as excessive usage in the past?
 
Originally posted by: sswingle
Sign up for a business account if you want more. Sheesh

While that may be a very logical idea, the current system Comcast has won't let you. They only sell business class accounts to commercially zoned areas. Comcast doesn't want to pay to upgrade their backend. They would rather have a user crunch and roll the dice on becoming the next AOL, banking on the lack of competition in most areas to keep them afloat.
 
Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
Originally posted by: sswingle
Sign up for a business account if you want more. Sheesh

While that may be a very logical idea, the current system Comcast has won't let you. They only sell business class accounts to commercially zoned areas. Comcast doesn't want to pay to upgrade their backend. They would rather have a user crunch and roll the dice on becoming the next AOL, banking on the lack of competition in most areas to keep them afloat.

lulz, I alwasy love misinformation in these threads.

Comcast and other large cable companies are aggressively upgrading and rolling out DOCSIS 3.0 because there is so much competition.
 
Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Oh dear, we're on RR and already at 235GB for the month; seven guys in one apartment.

yeah i bet 150gb of that was for illegitimate purposes

lol
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: DefDC
Anyone use generously uses Netflix or any other streaming site will be using quite a bit. Enjoy adult entertainment? That's a lot, too. I transfer podcasts from home to work, all the time.... I chat, with video, to family just about every night. Many times for hours at a time. It doesn't take that much to surpass 250GB, with any illegal downloading.

If all you do is email, and surf, a $15 DSL connection will work for you. You don't need the speed of cable.
Don't know what kind of bandwidth video chat uses, but Netflix movies are around 2GB each (they stream at 2.2Mbps, approx 1GB/hour). That means you'd have to watch 250 hours worth of video in a month, or about 125 movies assuming two hours per movie. Considering there are 720 hours in a month, that just isn't realistic. Do you know anybody who spends 35% of their day, every day, watching Netflix movies?

I mean, sure, there are ways to hit this cap, but none of it is very likely. I have no life, and there's no way I could (or would even want to) watch that many movies in a month. Even the FCC, who smacked down Comcast for BT throttling, promotes reasonable bandwidth caps as a means of protocol-agnostic network management. For the time being, I'm sure the FCC would agree that 250GB is *very* reasonable. In the future, if 250GB is no longer "reasonable," the FCC will probably encourage or force Comcast to raise it. However, 250GB should accommodate all but the heaviest users (according to Comcast, the top 0.1% of their customers currently exceed 250GB/mo) for many years to come.

throw in some linux distro iso's, all the flash crap, espn360, the crappy myspace pages, youtube, and streaming content.. I could hit 250 gigs easily be not torrenting or downloading illegal stuff.


Shens. If it was so easy to do, why is it < 1% of people who go over?
 
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: DefDC
Anyone use generously uses Netflix or any other streaming site will be using quite a bit. Enjoy adult entertainment? That's a lot, too. I transfer podcasts from home to work, all the time.... I chat, with video, to family just about every night. Many times for hours at a time. It doesn't take that much to surpass 250GB, with any illegal downloading.

If all you do is email, and surf, a $15 DSL connection will work for you. You don't need the speed of cable.
Don't know what kind of bandwidth video chat uses, but Netflix movies are around 2GB each (they stream at 2.2Mbps, approx 1GB/hour). That means you'd have to watch 250 hours worth of video in a month, or about 125 movies assuming two hours per movie. Considering there are 720 hours in a month, that just isn't realistic. Do you know anybody who spends 35% of their day, every day, watching Netflix movies?

I mean, sure, there are ways to hit this cap, but none of it is very likely. I have no life, and there's no way I could (or would even want to) watch that many movies in a month. Even the FCC, who smacked down Comcast for BT throttling, promotes reasonable bandwidth caps as a means of protocol-agnostic network management. For the time being, I'm sure the FCC would agree that 250GB is *very* reasonable. In the future, if 250GB is no longer "reasonable," the FCC will probably encourage or force Comcast to raise it. However, 250GB should accommodate all but the heaviest users (according to Comcast, the top 0.1% of their customers currently exceed 250GB/mo) for many years to come.

throw in some linux distro iso's, all the flash crap, espn360, the crappy myspace pages, youtube, and streaming content.. I could hit 250 gigs easily be not torrenting or downloading illegal stuff.


Shens. If it was so easy to do, why is it < 1% of people who go over?

the few. the elite.

THE ADDICTS.
 
Originally posted by: Drako
Originally posted by: DefDC
As a result, I just emailed them, saying I will be looking for a FIOS/Satellite combo ASAP. I don't Torrent or fileshare. But I do have a Giganews subscription that I enjoy. They can KMA after all the years I paid for their overpriced, but sweetly speedy and flexible, crap.

I think this is a good thing. I think average about 15 G bytes download per month. I guess I'm not downloading porn 24/7 though 🙂.

LOL, and if you think Comcast internet is overpriced, you should try SBC/Yahoo DSL.

what, $29.99/month for 6 mb down, 608k up, unlimited is too much?

BOGGLE
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: DefDC
Anyone use generously uses Netflix or any other streaming site will be using quite a bit. Enjoy adult entertainment? That's a lot, too. I transfer podcasts from home to work, all the time.... I chat, with video, to family just about every night. Many times for hours at a time. It doesn't take that much to surpass 250GB, with any illegal downloading.

If all you do is email, and surf, a $15 DSL connection will work for you. You don't need the speed of cable.
Don't know what kind of bandwidth video chat uses, but Netflix movies are around 2GB each (they stream at 2.2Mbps, approx 1GB/hour). That means you'd have to watch 250 hours worth of video in a month, or about 125 movies assuming two hours per movie. Considering there are 720 hours in a month, that just isn't realistic. Do you know anybody who spends 35% of their day, every day, watching Netflix movies?

I mean, sure, there are ways to hit this cap, but none of it is very likely. I have no life, and there's no way I could (or would even want to) watch that many movies in a month. Even the FCC, who smacked down Comcast for BT throttling, promotes reasonable bandwidth caps as a means of protocol-agnostic network management. For the time being, I'm sure the FCC would agree that 250GB is *very* reasonable. In the future, if 250GB is no longer "reasonable," the FCC will probably encourage or force Comcast to raise it. However, 250GB should accommodate all but the heaviest users (according to Comcast, the top 0.1% of their customers currently exceed 250GB/mo) for many years to come.

throw in some linux distro iso's, all the flash crap, espn360, the crappy myspace pages, youtube, and streaming content.. I could hit 250 gigs easily be not torrenting or downloading illegal stuff.


No, you really couldn't. And who downloads multiple linux isos every_single_month??
 
In case I missed it, what happens if/when you DO go over?

Do they cut you off? Are you charged INSANE amounts of $$ for every gb over?

And for that matter, if you only use 100 out of your 250 per month, does that roll over to the next month? (Assuming no here, but had to ask)

 
Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Oh dear, we're on RR and already at 235GB for the month; seven guys in one apartment.

so buy another line? split between either 4 or 3 people, a $40.00 monthly bill isnt much at all.

seven guys in an apartment, downloading all kinds of porn, videos, music, playing wow, etc, must really really stink up the place.
 
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: DefDC
Anyone use generously uses Netflix or any other streaming site will be using quite a bit. Enjoy adult entertainment? That's a lot, too. I transfer podcasts from home to work, all the time.... I chat, with video, to family just about every night. Many times for hours at a time. It doesn't take that much to surpass 250GB, with any illegal downloading.

If all you do is email, and surf, a $15 DSL connection will work for you. You don't need the speed of cable.
Don't know what kind of bandwidth video chat uses, but Netflix movies are around 2GB each (they stream at 2.2Mbps, approx 1GB/hour). That means you'd have to watch 250 hours worth of video in a month, or about 125 movies assuming two hours per movie. Considering there are 720 hours in a month, that just isn't realistic. Do you know anybody who spends 35% of their day, every day, watching Netflix movies?

I mean, sure, there are ways to hit this cap, but none of it is very likely. I have no life, and there's no way I could (or would even want to) watch that many movies in a month. Even the FCC, who smacked down Comcast for BT throttling, promotes reasonable bandwidth caps as a means of protocol-agnostic network management. For the time being, I'm sure the FCC would agree that 250GB is *very* reasonable. In the future, if 250GB is no longer "reasonable," the FCC will probably encourage or force Comcast to raise it. However, 250GB should accommodate all but the heaviest users (according to Comcast, the top 0.1% of their customers currently exceed 250GB/mo) for many years to come.

throw in some linux distro iso's, all the flash crap, espn360, the crappy myspace pages, youtube, and streaming content.. I could hit 250 gigs easily be not torrenting or downloading illegal stuff.


Shens. If it was so easy to do, why is it < 1% of people who go over?

it is easily possible, but I have a life and choose to step away from the computer. Others do not.
 
Originally posted by: slag
Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Oh dear, we're on RR and already at 235GB for the month; seven guys in one apartment.

so buy another line? split between either 4 or 3 people, a $40.00 monthly bill isnt much at all.

seven guys in an apartment, downloading all kinds of porn, videos, music, playing wow, etc, must really really stink up the place.


7 guys in an apartment? I wonder how many LHCs have happened there......
 
Check out these awesome packages and pricing. Be glad you have 250gb/month option. These are montly caps, not daily. Additional bandwidth usage is only $2 per Gig or $1 per Gig in advance

http://www.sunflowerbroadband.com/internet/

$49.95 Included Gold Internet
21 Mbps Download
Download a 4Mb .mp3 in about 1 second
Up to 300 times faster than 56k Dial-Up
Speeds more than 3 times faster than Elite DSL (6Mbps) **
5 e-mail accounts
Service for up to 4 computers
40 gigabytes bandwidth usage included

Silver Internet
7 Mbps Download
Download a 4Mb .mp3 in about 7 seconds
Up to 100 times faster than Dialup
Speeds up to 8 times faster than Basic DSL (768kbps) **
3 personal e-mail accounts
12 Gigabytes bandwidth usage included

Bronze Internet
768 kbps Download
Download a 4Mb .mp3 in just over 1 minute
Up to 10 times faster than 56k Dial-Up
Always On connection with Speeds comparable to Basic DSL (768kbps) **
2 personal e-mail accounts
1 gigabyte bandwidth usage included

 
Originally posted by: slag
Check out these awesome packages and pricing. Be glad you have 250gb/month option. These are montly caps, not daily. Additional bandwidth usage is only $2 per Gig or $1 per Gig in advance

http://www.sunflowerbroadband.com/internet/

$49.95 Included Gold Internet
21 Mbps Download
Download a 4Mb .mp3 in about 1 second
Up to 300 times faster than 56k Dial-Up
Speeds more than 3 times faster than Elite DSL (6Mbps) **
5 e-mail accounts
Service for up to 4 computers
40 gigabytes bandwidth usage included

Silver Internet
7 Mbps Download
Download a 4Mb .mp3 in about 7 seconds
Up to 100 times faster than Dialup
Speeds up to 8 times faster than Basic DSL (768kbps) **
3 personal e-mail accounts
12 Gigabytes bandwidth usage included

Bronze Internet
768 kbps Download
Download a 4Mb .mp3 in just over 1 minute
Up to 10 times faster than 56k Dial-Up
Always On connection with Speeds comparable to Basic DSL (768kbps) **
2 personal e-mail accounts
1 gigabyte bandwidth usage included

that is craptastic, plz tell me that you have another broadband choice
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: DefDC
Anyone use generously uses Netflix or any other streaming site will be using quite a bit. Enjoy adult entertainment? That's a lot, too. I transfer podcasts from home to work, all the time.... I chat, with video, to family just about every night. Many times for hours at a time. It doesn't take that much to surpass 250GB, with any illegal downloading.

If all you do is email, and surf, a $15 DSL connection will work for you. You don't need the speed of cable.
Don't know what kind of bandwidth video chat uses, but Netflix movies are around 2GB each (they stream at 2.2Mbps, approx 1GB/hour). That means you'd have to watch 250 hours worth of video in a month, or about 125 movies assuming two hours per movie. Considering there are 720 hours in a month, that just isn't realistic. Do you know anybody who spends 35% of their day, every day, watching Netflix movies?

I mean, sure, there are ways to hit this cap, but none of it is very likely. I have no life, and there's no way I could (or would even want to) watch that many movies in a month. Even the FCC, who smacked down Comcast for BT throttling, promotes reasonable bandwidth caps as a means of protocol-agnostic network management. For the time being, I'm sure the FCC would agree that 250GB is *very* reasonable. In the future, if 250GB is no longer "reasonable," the FCC will probably encourage or force Comcast to raise it. However, 250GB should accommodate all but the heaviest users (according to Comcast, the top 0.1% of their customers currently exceed 250GB/mo) for many years to come.

throw in some linux distro iso's, all the flash crap, espn360, the crappy myspace pages, youtube, and streaming content.. I could hit 250 gigs easily be not torrenting or downloading illegal stuff.


Shens. If it was so easy to do, why is it < 1% of people who go over?

it is easily possible, but I have a life and choose to step away from the computer. Others do not.

Even then you can't go over the limit that easily. Linux distros would at most cost you 50gb if you feel like downloading Ubuntu, Fedora Core, Gentoo and a few others EVERY MONTH. Really, who redownloads every month?

Honestly, the people flaming away about 250gb are honestly those who hop onto newsgroups and start queueing all the 720p/1080p movies there are. Yes I know that 13gb Iron Man release is nice, but you're complaining about not being able to download 20 of those a month? Seriously.
 
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