Comcast 250gb per Month Cap

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heymrdj

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: uhohs
ur face is a pedo torrent

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because i skype over 9 hours a day I actually can use a generous amount of BW. Netmeter reports a little over 100GB so far this month, a little over 7.7GB daily, or 25.5GB a week. Since January my laptop has only downloaded/uploaded 670GB of data. Today I did 7.709GB and projecting a little over 9.5GB by the end of today. For the month it thinks I'll hit 160GB this month. Of course a break there is that I do no torrenting here. My torrents run on a torrentflux system I run on a linux VPS server I have with Steadcom. I only download the finished files. I guess if I torrented from here too i'd easily go over 250GB.

I also use Steam with Half Life 2, mainly online Synergy mod COOP with the BYOB clan.
But you're using the connection for business, right? I just have trouble believing the people who claim they can consistently exceed 250GB/mo for legal, non-business purposes.

Nope, my home connection up to a month ago was 1.5mbs down/256kb up DSL, and now I run on the college's connection, which is throttled to a per port setting of 1.5mbs down/500kb up.

The VPS is my sandbox for linux and web apps. Just a basic plan. Though because I know the owner personally I did get some favors like 256MB of RAm instead of 128, 20 instead of 10GB of space, and 1TB instead of 500GB of transfer.
 

daniel1113

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Meh. I highly doubt anyone today really needs more than 250GB/month for $40-$50 a month. I do a lot of file transfers, but rarely go over 100GB a month. However, this sets a very bad precedent for future caps. I wouldn't be surprised if the cap was lowered in the semi-near future. If you give these companies a cookie, you bet your ass they'll take advantage of it and eventually demand the entire box and the container of milk.
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: akubi
Originally posted by: DefDC
Originally posted by: dighn
250 GB is very generous. One of the largest ISPs in Canada just LOWERED their cap from 60GB to 25GB. Not my ISP but it's a bad precedent. :|

Generous for YOU.

We signed, what we thought, was an unlimited plan. I do a lot of downloading. I always have. It hasn't been an issue. I HAVE PAID EXTRA do so at top speed.

I download a lot but I don't think I average anywhere near 2 dvds worth a day.

Some people do.
 

uhohs

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lol, i just checked my netlimiter stats

in august i did about 400gb. this month i've done 300gb so far.
 

frostedflakes

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Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
But you're using the connection for business, right? I just have trouble believing the people who claim they can consistently exceed 250GB/mo for legal, non-business purposes.

Nope, my home connection up to a month ago was 1.5mbs down/256kb up DSL, and now I run on the college's connection, which is throttled to a per port setting of 1.5mbs down/500kb up.

The VPS is my sandbox for linux and web apps. Just a basic plan. Though because I know the owner personally I did get some favors like 256MB of RAm instead of 128, 20 instead of 10GB of space, and 1TB instead of 500GB of transfer.
What are you using 9+ hrs of Skype a day for if it isn't business? It's all personal conversation? After you factor in 7 hours for sleeping, I'd have to wonder how you manage to get anything done, for example, work to pay for rent/internet/Skype/etc. :p
 

Bignate603

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Originally posted by: Ns1
I think the number of legit uses for >250gb/month are pretty limited.

This. Also, if you use more and put more of a strain on the network shouldn't you expect to pay more than someone who doesn't? I'm actually surprised that companies haven't started charging for a connection fee and then a per GB charge.
 
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Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: Ns1
I think the number of legit uses for >250gb/month are pretty limited.

This. Also, if you use more and put more of a strain on the network shouldn't you expect to pay more than someone who doesn't? I'm actually surprised that companies haven't started charging for a connection fee and then a per GB charge.

Because then they wouldn't be able to easily rip off the low-bandwidth users.
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: Ns1
I think the number of legit uses for >250gb/month are pretty limited.

This. Also, if you use more and put more of a strain on the network shouldn't you expect to pay more than someone who doesn't? I'm actually surprised that companies haven't started charging for a connection fee and then a per GB charge.

Because then they wouldn't be able to easily rip off the low-bandwidth users.

YEP
 

frostedflakes

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: Ns1
I think the number of legit uses for >250gb/month are pretty limited.

This. Also, if you use more and put more of a strain on the network shouldn't you expect to pay more than someone who doesn't? I'm actually surprised that companies haven't started charging for a connection fee and then a per GB charge.

Because then they wouldn't be able to easily rip off the low-bandwidth users.
Bingo. The median 2-3GB bandwidth use mentioned in OP's post really shows that most people barely use their connection. The low bandwidth users subsidize the cost for us power users. :p
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: Ns1
I think the number of legit uses for >250gb/month are pretty limited.

This. Also, if you use more and put more of a strain on the network shouldn't you expect to pay more than someone who doesn't? I'm actually surprised that companies haven't started charging for a connection fee and then a per GB charge.

Because then they wouldn't be able to easily rip off the low-bandwidth users.

YEP

Just wait until they take a tip from the cell providers and start charging 20 cents an email... :)
 

heymrdj

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
But you're using the connection for business, right? I just have trouble believing the people who claim they can consistently exceed 250GB/mo for legal, non-business purposes.

Nope, my home connection up to a month ago was 1.5mbs down/256kb up DSL, and now I run on the college's connection, which is throttled to a per port setting of 1.5mbs down/500kb up.

The VPS is my sandbox for linux and web apps. Just a basic plan. Though because I know the owner personally I did get some favors like 256MB of RAm instead of 128, 20 instead of 10GB of space, and 1TB instead of 500GB of transfer.
What are you using 9+ hrs of Skype a day for if it isn't business? It's all personal conversation? After you factor in 7 hours for sleeping, I'd have to wonder how you manage to get anything done, for example, work to pay for rent/internet/Skype/etc. :p

You almost go it :p. It is personal, and it is while i'm sleeping. Me and my gf typically fall asleep this way unless someone remembers to get up and shut it off (bluetooth headsets connected to the computers) which normally doesn't happen till 6 in the morning.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
But you're using the connection for business, right? I just have trouble believing the people who claim they can consistently exceed 250GB/mo for legal, non-business purposes.

Nope, my home connection up to a month ago was 1.5mbs down/256kb up DSL, and now I run on the college's connection, which is throttled to a per port setting of 1.5mbs down/500kb up.

The VPS is my sandbox for linux and web apps. Just a basic plan. Though because I know the owner personally I did get some favors like 256MB of RAm instead of 128, 20 instead of 10GB of space, and 1TB instead of 500GB of transfer.
What are you using 9+ hrs of Skype a day for if it isn't business? It's all personal conversation? After you factor in 7 hours for sleeping, I'd have to wonder how you manage to get anything done, for example, work to pay for rent/internet/Skype/etc. :p

You almost go it :p. It is personal, and it is while i'm sleeping. Me and my gf typically fall asleep this way unless someone remembers to get up and shut it off (bluetooth headsets connected to the computers) which normally doesn't happen till 6 in the morning.

I'm sorry man, but that's really, really lame.

I doubt Skype transmits a lot of data when you're not talking though.
 

Bill Brasky

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: slag
Check out these awesome packages and pricing. Be glad you have 250gb/month option. These are montly caps, not daily. Additional bandwidth usage is only $2 per Gig or $1 per Gig in advance

http://www.sunflowerbroadband.com/internet/

$49.95 Included Gold Internet
21 Mbps Download
Download a 4Mb .mp3 in about 1 second
Up to 300 times faster than 56k Dial-Up
Speeds more than 3 times faster than Elite DSL (6Mbps) **
5 e-mail accounts
Service for up to 4 computers
40 gigabytes bandwidth usage included

Silver Internet
7 Mbps Download
Download a 4Mb .mp3 in about 7 seconds
Up to 100 times faster than Dialup
Speeds up to 8 times faster than Basic DSL (768kbps) **
3 personal e-mail accounts
12 Gigabytes bandwidth usage included

Bronze Internet
768 kbps Download
Download a 4Mb .mp3 in just over 1 minute
Up to 10 times faster than 56k Dial-Up
Always On connection with Speeds comparable to Basic DSL (768kbps) **
2 personal e-mail accounts
1 gigabyte bandwidth usage included

that is craptastic, plz tell me that you have another broadband choice

Nope. Sunflower has a full monopoly and it blows donkey balls. FIFTY BUCKS /MONTH for 40 gigs!! The only other decent option is ATT dsl. And even though we have 12 phone jacks the only place the modem will work is the jack over the kitchen counter! :confused: No cat5e for me. /wrists
 

heymrdj

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
But you're using the connection for business, right? I just have trouble believing the people who claim they can consistently exceed 250GB/mo for legal, non-business purposes.

Nope, my home connection up to a month ago was 1.5mbs down/256kb up DSL, and now I run on the college's connection, which is throttled to a per port setting of 1.5mbs down/500kb up.

The VPS is my sandbox for linux and web apps. Just a basic plan. Though because I know the owner personally I did get some favors like 256MB of RAm instead of 128, 20 instead of 10GB of space, and 1TB instead of 500GB of transfer.
What are you using 9+ hrs of Skype a day for if it isn't business? It's all personal conversation? After you factor in 7 hours for sleeping, I'd have to wonder how you manage to get anything done, for example, work to pay for rent/internet/Skype/etc. :p

You almost go it :p. It is personal, and it is while i'm sleeping. Me and my gf typically fall asleep this way unless someone remembers to get up and shut it off (bluetooth headsets connected to the computers) which normally doesn't happen till 6 in the morning.

I'm sorry man, but that's really, really lame.

I doubt Skype transmits a lot of data when you're not talking though.

Lol how is that lame. We're both burning the candle at both ends right now between classes and work. Hell I've talked to her more here on Friday night than I have the whole week.

 

Modelworks

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I remember in years past that it used to cost more for providers to send data upstream than receive it downstream. Is this still the case ? Or have the contracts all gone symmetrical ?
 

frostedflakes

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Just saying that if you're going to let your Skype connection sit idle for hours on end sucking up bandwidth, don't complain about caps. That would be kind of like getting angry at the water company for cutting you off because you leave all the tubs and faucets needlessly running 24/7. :)
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
I remember in years past that it used to cost more for providers to send data upstream than receive it downstream. Is this still the case ? Or have the contracts all gone symmetrical ?

no, it isn't symmetrical. I think they limit your upload just because they can get away with it. Almost everyone doesn't care how much upload they have after 512k. For most people it doesn't make a significant difference.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
I remember in years past that it used to cost more for providers to send data upstream than receive it downstream. Is this still the case ? Or have the contracts all gone symmetrical ?

That has never been the case. All wholesale circuits don't care what direction it moves. Now peering is another story (supposed to be a mutually beneficial agreement) and you can't just dump onto their network without providing something in return.

TridenTBoy3555, in the residential area upstream is a limitation of the technology based on residential traffic pattern around which they were developed to offer this kind of speed so freaking cheap and not some evil conspiracy.

 

frostedflakes

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I've actually always wondered about that, what do the do with all that extra upstream bandwidth? Does it just sit idle?
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Modelworks
I remember in years past that it used to cost more for providers to send data upstream than receive it downstream. Is this still the case ? Or have the contracts all gone symmetrical ?

That has never been the case. All wholesale circuits don't care what direction it moves. Now peering is another story (supposed to be a mutually beneficial agreement) and you can't just dump onto their network without providing something in return.

TridenTBoy3555, in the residential area upstream is a limitation of the technology based on residential traffic pattern around which they were developed to offer this kind of speed so freaking cheap and not some evil conspiracy.

Come on... SPEED? You must be joking. Other countries get like 50/50 standard. (At least from plans I have seen and what people from those countries have told me)
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: rh71
I might have to do NHL Center Ice Online subscription, streaming 2.5hr hockey games almost every night of the season... I wonder how much that will use.

Not much. Let's assume a fairly generous bitrate of 1000kbps, 3 hrs a game. That is about 1.35GB per game and 41.85 GB over 31 days.

Realistically, you might not watch one game per night, esp if you're just getting it to watch one or two out of market teams, but that's just an assumption.

Also, quality sucked last year. I signed up for a trial to see, and I'd be very, very surprised if the bitrate was anywhere near 1000 kbps. Maybe they drastically upgraded this year, so I went with that assumption though.

Finally, my math could be off. I did 1000 / 8 * 60 * 60 * 3 * 31 to arrive at that #.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Modelworks
I remember in years past that it used to cost more for providers to send data upstream than receive it downstream. Is this still the case ? Or have the contracts all gone symmetrical ?

That has never been the case. All wholesale circuits don't care what direction it moves. Now peering is another story (supposed to be a mutually beneficial agreement) and you can't just dump onto their network without providing something in return.

TridenTBoy3555, in the residential area upstream is a limitation of the technology based on residential traffic pattern around which they were developed to offer this kind of speed so freaking cheap and not some evil conspiracy.

Come on... SPEED? You must be joking. Other countries get like 50/50 standard. (At least from plans I have seen and what people from those countries have told me)

lol, distance and subscriber density.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: DefDC
Originally posted by: dighn
250 GB is very generous. One of the largest ISPs in Canada just LOWERED their cap from 60GB to 25GB. Not my ISP but it's a bad precedent. :|

Generous for YOU.

We signed, what we thought, was an unlimited plan. I do a lot of downloading. I always have. It hasn't been an issue. I HAVE PAID EXTRA do so at top speed.

You know it can't be truly unlimited, especially when others are subsidizing your usage. There has to be a limit somewhere, and as far as a limit, 250 GB is still plenty for virtually any home use.

Hell, 60GB is more than quadruple what an average family uses. What exactly are you downloading that you need 250GB?
 

imported_weadjust

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Directv video on demand is downloaded from your internet provider. How many hours of HD programing would it take to max out 250 GB limit?