Columnist believes military coup brewing as a solution to the "Obama problem"

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

Originally posted by: Harvey

Your guarantees and a dollar bill aren't worth the price of a single item at a Ninety-Nine Cents Store. :roll:

Uhhhh... what?

It's a simple arithmetic problem. For this to be so, his "guarantee" must be worth less than zero.

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed

Sedition anyone?

QFT!

sedition

1. Noun
   1. 
      speech, writing, or behaviour intended to encourage rebellion or resistance against the government [Latin seditio discord]
   seditionary nadj
   seditious adj

More specifically:

U.S. Code

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2385

§ 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof?

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms ?organizes? and ?organize?, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Man, the far right is not taking losing an election well at all.

It gives me great pleasure watching and listening to them going out of their little fucking minds.

I think Levin is going to stroke out on air.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

Originally posted by: Harvey

Your guarantees and a dollar bill aren't worth the price of a single item at a Ninety-Nine Cents Store. :roll:

Uhhhh... what?

It's a simple arithmetic problem. For this to be so, his "guarantee" must be worth less than zero.

Gotcha, I didn't think to bring negatives into pricing.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It gives me great pleasure watching and listening to them going out of their little fucking minds.

Misery does love company.

 

[manowar821]

So our country being a whore to the oligarchy is okay when there's a white conservative as president, but when he's a mixed moderate from the other camp, it's unacceptable? Retards like this guy are one of the many reasons economic fascism is very real today, by being played by the two party "system". You morons deserve the "government" you have.

 

[piasabird]

The jews accepted what was happening to them and look what they got for good behavior???

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: piasabird

The jews accepted what was happening to them and look what they got for good behavior???

That's so cryptic it defies comprehension. Did you actually mean to say something?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: WildHorse
I agree with Sarkozy?s remarks here:

What infuriated President Sarkozy was that at the time Mr. Obama said those words, Mr. Obama knew the mullahs in Iran had a secret nuclear weapons development site, and he didn't call them on it.
....

"What good has proposals for dialogue brought the international community?" he asked rhetorically. "More uranium enrichment and declarations by the leaders of Iran to wipe out a UN member state off the map."

The "weapons development" claim is unsubstantiated rumor mongering, and the "wipe out a UN member state off the map" is a flagrant lie. So, what compels you to agree with such propaganda?

... Iran has said repeatedly that he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth" ... is the goal of Iran to wipe Israel off the face of the earth' ".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran

http://www.hyscience.com/archi.../10/iran_president.php

 

[JKing106]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: PJABBER

My question is - why is the Obama Administration standing with the likes of Ortega and Chavez?

You're quoting partisan opinion pieces from one of Rupert Murdoch's right wingnut rags as if they were fact. My question is, where's your grasp on reality? :roll:

I am replying with a statement made by the interim President of Honduras detailing the reasons for, and the mechanism of, Zelaya's removal and a news story of actions being taken by the Obama Administration interfering with the Constitutional processes of Honduras.

You sure are funny in describing everything that doesn't agree with your very partisan viewpoint.

Tell the truth: you're dating Murdoch's son, aren't you?

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: kylebisme
The "weapons development" claim is unsubstantiated rumor mongering, and the "wipe out a UN member state off the map" is a flagrant lie. So, what compels you to agree with such propaganda?

... Iran has said repeatedly that he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth" ... is the goal of Iran to wipe Israel off the face of the earth' ".

Iran isn't a "he", Ahmadinejad doesn't even speak English, what you put in quotes there is a flagrant lie which not even the links you provided support, and what the articles you linked to presented are distorted translations taken out of context to be exploted as propaganda, as explained here.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: kylebisme
The "weapons development" claim is unsubstantiated rumor mongering, and the "wipe out a UN member state off the map" is a flagrant lie. So, what compels you to agree with such propaganda?

... Iran has said repeatedly that he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth" ... is the goal of Iran to wipe Israel off the face of the earth' ".

Iran isn't a "he", Ahmadinejad doesn't even speak English, what you put in quotes there is a flagrant lie which not even the links you provided support, and what the articles you linked to presented are distorted translations taken out of context to be exploted as propaganda, as explained here.

Your stance is that Ahmadinejad's statements were improperly translated. Have you got anyone other than Arash Norouzi saying this? Are you basing your argument solely on one individuals interpretation?

In addition, will this be yet another topic in which you will argue your point to death, essentially wearing everyone down so you can internally proclaim yourself the winner? I'm seeing this trend in you and personally, I don't care for it. Not that it matters. It is somewhat interesting that you tend to adopt the position that is unfavorable or unpopular. I'm not sure yet what would motivate you to do so. Perhaps time will tell.

BTW, the spelling of the town in Kansas you purport to be from is 'Lawrence', not 'Lawrance'.

 

[Siddhartha]

A question for forum members who can relate to the OP, What exactly is the "Obama Problem"?

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: boomerang
Your stance is that Ahmadinejad's statements were improperly translated.

That is the only reasonable stance to have absent any rational argument to the contrary.

Originally posted by: boomerang
Have you got anyone other than Arash Norouzi saying this?

Not in my pocket, but I can dig plenty more up, just as anyone else who might have interest in the matter could.

Originally posted by: boomerang
Are you basing your argument solely on one individuals interpretation?

Not at all, I hadn't even seen Arash Norouzi's article until just the other day. Rather, I'm basing my position on thorough research in the matter which I conducted years ago, when it was a current event. That said, you don't have any rational dipsute against anything Arash Norouzi presented in his article, do you?

Originally posted by: boomerang
In addition, will this be yet another topic in which you will argue your point to death, essentially wearing everyone down so you can internally proclaim yourself the winner?

I'm not looking to win anything, and appreciate being proven wrong, as overcoming misconceptions provides one with a better understanding of reality.

Originally posted by: boomerang
I'm seeing this trend in you and personally, I don't care for it. Not that it matters.

Everything matters to some extent or another, your aversion to reality included.

Originally posted by: boomerang
It is somewhat interesting that you tend to adopt the position that is unfavorable or unpopular. I'm not sure yet what would motivate you to do so. Perhaps time will tell.

You don't need to wait, all you had to do was ask. I'm motivated by respect for reality, the same motivation which had me taking the unpopular position against the bullshit propaganda which lead us to the mess which is our occupation of Iraq.

Originally posted by: boomerang
BTW, the spelling of the town in Kansas you purport to be from is 'Lawrence', not 'Lawrance'.

Thank you, I'll get right to fixing that. Being dyslexic, spelling never came easy to me. I usually don't spell the name of my home town wrong, but occasionally I slip up, and my disability makes it difficult to notice such mistakes. Also, your "purport" suggests you doubt my honesty on this matter. If you'd like, you are welcome to PM me, and I will happily give you my home phone number so you can put such ill-conceived suspicions to rest.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
A question for forum members who can relate to the OP, What exactly is the "Obama Problem"?

Those aren't his words to explain. Did you not notice the quotation marks around them?

 

[cubeless]

Originally posted by: jonks
Well if I seriously had good reason to believe a muslim sleeper agent from Kenya stole the election after manufacturing birth certificates and newspaper announements 50 years ago and that he was putting death panels in health care legislation to kill the elderly and that he was a racist who wanted to force congress to pay reparations to black americans and that he was instituting reeducation camps for our youth and that he tried to indoctrinate our children with subliminal messages during his speeches...well, then I should be locked up in a rubber room I guess.

But if I got out of that room I'd definitely try to take back my country. Wouldn't you?

give me my country back... now... ;p

 

[wwswimming]

Originally posted by: ayabe
"There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.

...

Obama is simultaneously being lambasted for being a radical leftist who's destroying the county and for doing "nothing". Those are mutually exclusive are they not?

unless, of course, 9-11 was an example of just such a coup.

more info on that subject -

1. Cheney managed approx. 5 simultaneous war-games that diverted all military resources away from the North-East corridor of the US, as best explained by Michael Ruppert in Crossing the Rubicon.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/

2. the Silverstein group/"mafia" managed WTC logistics (security & related details, such as insurance company liaison)
http://theinfounderground.com/...ewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

3. WTC7 was demolished - as were WTC1 & WTC2. ref. Jim Hoffman's calculations at
http://911research.wtc7.net/

4. Foreknowledge. this subject is thoroughly covered at the 9-11 Timeline, originally investigated by Paul Thompson.
http://www.historycommons.org/...sp?project=911_project

5. Who did the demolition ? Israel. Americans can not be counted on to kill Americans SYSTEMATICALLY. Israel has a track record of killing Americans and of false flag attacks. e.g. USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair, and the attack on the King David Hotel.

6. Motivation. Iraq has 110 billion barrels of oil with a recovery cost of $1 to $5 a barrel. with oil at $68 a barrel, that's about $7 trillion worth of oil.

and what was the US response to 9-11 ? they attacked a country that had no connection to 9-11 - Iraq. PNAC & related organizations even spelled out their plans - long before 9-11, stating that a major Pearl Harbor event would be necessary to con the American people into supporting such an invasion.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: wwswimming
unless, of course, 9-11 was an example of just such a coup.

It most obviously was, for anyone who cares to pay attention.

Originally posted by: wwswimming
Who did the demolition ? Israel.

Nonsensical speculation. Some Israelis? Likely, along with others from various places, including right here at home. Israel as a state? As if.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

lol... that columnist is fucking retarded.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: boomerang
Your stance is that Ahmadinejad's statements were improperly translated.

That is the only reasonable stance to have absent any rational argument to the contrary.

Originally posted by: boomerang
Have you got anyone other than Arash Norouzi saying this?

Not in my pocket, but I can dig plenty more up, just as anyone else who might have interest in the matter could.

Originally posted by: boomerang
Are you basing your argument solely on one individuals interpretation?

Not at all, I hadn't even seen Arash Norouzi's article until just the other day. Rather, I'm basing my position on thorough research in the matter which I conducted years ago, when it was a current event. That said, you don't have any rational dipsute against anything Arash Norouzi presented in his article, do you?

Originally posted by: boomerang
In addition, will this be yet another topic in which you will argue your point to death, essentially wearing everyone down so you can internally proclaim yourself the winner?

I'm not looking to win anything, and appreciate being proven wrong, as overcoming misconceptions provides one with a better understanding of reality.

Originally posted by: boomerang
I'm seeing this trend in you and personally, I don't care for it. Not that it matters.

Everything matters to some extent or another, your aversion to reality included.

Originally posted by: boomerang
It is somewhat interesting that you tend to adopt the position that is unfavorable or unpopular. I'm not sure yet what would motivate you to do so. Perhaps time will tell.

You don't need to wait, all you had to do was ask. I'm motivated by respect for reality, the same motivation which had me taking the unpopular position against the bullshit propaganda which lead us to the mess which is our occupation of Iraq.

Originally posted by: boomerang
BTW, the spelling of the town in Kansas you purport to be from is 'Lawrence', not 'Lawrance'.

Thank you, I'll get right to fixing that. Being dyslexic, spelling never came easy to me. I usually don't spell the name of my home town wrong, but occasionally I slip up, and my disability makes it difficult to notice such mistakes. Also, your "purport" suggests you doubt my honesty on this matter. If you'd like, you are welcome to PM me, and I will happily give you my home phone number so you can put such ill-conceived suspicions to rest.

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I'd like you to dig up more. I'd like to see more information supporting the thoughts of both yourself and Arash Norouzi that Ahmadinejad is just misunderstood. He's intensely disliked in the world. One has only to see how many delegations walked out during his speech at the UN recently to understand that. But please, continue supporting him. It's a great way to get one's point across.

My objection to the theory put forth by Arash Norouzi is that it's the opinion of one man. Show me more and prove me wrong. At that time it will cease to be a theory, it will be fact.

I'm thinking you've guessed that I'm not actually concerned with where you live. I will give you a thumbs up for putting information in your profile. Many here don't.